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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 08:14 PM Jan 2013

This is also not a picture from Blade Runner



China's Toxic Sky
JAN 30, 2013 |
Since the beginning of this year, the levels of air pollution in Beijing have been dangerously high, with thick clouds of smog chasing people indoors, disrupting air travel, and affecting the health of millions. The past two weeks have been especially bad -- at one point the pollution level measured 40 times recommended safety levels. Authorities are taking short-term measures to combat the current crisis, shutting down some factories and limiting government auto usage. However, long-term solutions seem distant, as China's use of coal continues to rise, and the government remains slow to acknowledge and address the problems. * Starting with photo #2, a four-part set of these images is interactive, allowing you to click the photo and 'clear the air', viewing a difference over time.


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http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2013/01/chinas-toxic-sky/100449/

Anyone who claims to want "less regulation" should be forced to breathe this crap until they see the light. Because this is what would result from Ayn Randian Libertarian "dreams"
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Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
1. These remind me of pictures I've seen of LA in the 50s. Cops directing traffic wearing gas masks and
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 08:25 PM
Jan 2013

visibility less than three blocks. Even now, although it is much, much better, one can go months without ever seeing the San Gabriels.



I'll never forget the first time I saw that there are these huge frigging mountains there, I was like "how could I possibly not have seen those in all this time?"

Kablooie

(18,635 posts)
10. I remember Pasadena in the 50's.
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 11:13 PM
Jan 2013

It was a rare day we could see Mount Wilson which was about 3 miles away.

KT2000

(20,585 posts)
3. those are stunning photos
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 09:10 PM
Jan 2013

My SIL is scheduled to go there in a couple weeks. I suggested she not go.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
17. I visited Beijing three times during the 1990s
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:58 AM
Feb 2013

and the air pollution was dreadful on the particular days I was there. I was told that Beijing lies in some kind of basin that traps layers of air for days at a time without very much circulation.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
7. Hey China
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:53 PM
Jan 2013

Look at Mexico City, used to e that bad. It took 20 years and regulations to clean up the air, for the most part.

DainBramaged

(39,191 posts)
8. This is China
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:53 PM
Jan 2013




This is ecnomic growth, and this is the cost. In the modern world. And people wonder who contributes more to climate change, the US or China and also India.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
13. Scary stuff, DB. Some of it reminds of what I saw growing up around refineries. The pollution ate...
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 11:23 PM
Jan 2013
paint off cars and houses and our lungs.



DainBramaged

(39,191 posts)
14. That polution is traveling across China into Japan and across the Pacific
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 11:28 PM
Jan 2013

For those being born today, their journey will be difficult...........

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
16. We get weather reports of this in the PNW because it does come here.
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 11:36 PM
Jan 2013

I don't remember what the components of the smog are, but they are toxic - it's not just coal soot. Where I grew up, the doctors told me everyone had adapted by doing shallow breathing.

When I would return for a visit at about a hundred miles out you could see a pall of reddish brown pollution hanging above everything. When drove into it, even with the windows up and the air conditioning, I got migraines.

I didn't get better until I got back here. The people there are imprisoned by the freedom granted the polluters.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
11. I would be dead....
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 11:16 PM
Jan 2013
K&R

.... as soon as I walked off the plane. Seriously.
Wonder how much that garbage they call air is caused by multinational corporations? After all, that's part of the reason they love to out-sosurce everything to China... NO REGULATIONS (the main reason, of course, being cheap labor.) It makes me gasp just looking at it.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
12. This is what the Koches want for us here. You said it all right here.
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 11:21 PM
Jan 2013
Anyone who claims to want "less regulation" should be forced to breathe this crap until they see the light. Because this is what would result from Ayn Randian Libertarian "dreams."

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
15. I only thought Houston was bad for my health.
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 11:31 PM
Jan 2013

I'd suffocate in that toxic mire they're forced to breath. The reality is, everything they do to the planet we all pay for in the end. The same applies for us here in the US. We can't keep abusing our world and expect to not have to pay the toll.

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