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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:17 PM Feb 2013

Assisted living facility hires strippers and escorts to provide residents “holistic care”

Chaseley Trust, a British assisted living facility, is attracting international attention for their unique approach to patient care: They occasionally employ the services of strippers and escorts for their residents.

“People have needs,” manager Helena Barrow told The Sun. “We are there to help. We respect our residents as individuals so that’s why we help this to happen. If we refused, we would not be delivering a holistic level of care.”

But news of Chaseley residents’ extracurricular activities has ignited a nationwide debate about the rights of the disabled and sex in assisted living facilities — in addition to a local investigation into the practice.

“This has the potential to place vulnerable East Sussex residents at risk of exploitation and abuse,” an East Sussex County Council spokesman told The Inquisitr.

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http://www.salon.com/2013/01/29/assisted_living_facility_hires_strippers_and_escorts_to_provide_residents_holistic_care/
Still dubious? Barrow sums the policy up with some sexual real talk. As she told the Daily Mail:

If a resident phones a sex worker and asks them round because they are feeling sexually frustrated or can’t find a partner, that is up to them. It is our job as staff to empower these people to have a normal life, and if they ask staff to dial a sex worker’s number for them because they can’t do it themselves, I don’t see anything wrong with that either.

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Assisted living facility hires strippers and escorts to provide residents “holistic care” (Original Post) n2doc Feb 2013 OP
Packs bags, checks passport.... Bennyboy Feb 2013 #1
Save a seat for me!!! RKP5637 Feb 2013 #4
It's about time someone started treating these people like people and not just liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #2
Sign me up now! It's got my vote! RKP5637 Feb 2013 #3
I hear that STDs are out of control at some assisted living facilities and nursing homes. sadbear Feb 2013 #5
the older generations were brought up before they started teaching sex ed liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #7
Revising my living will just advanced up my to-do list jberryhill Feb 2013 #6
Good for them! Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #8
Good for Gramps (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2013 #9
Sounds like a very customer oriented facility Cynicus Emeritus Feb 2013 #10
Talk about Skilled Nursing! nt joeunderdog Feb 2013 #11
Sick. redqueen Feb 2013 #12
These people have needs just like everyone else. It's not like they can get out to meet new folks. DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav Feb 2013 #13
are the old womans "needs" met or do they not count, insignificant, dont matter? nt seabeyond Feb 2013 #14
In the OP I only noticed the word "residents" I didn't see a sex specified so DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav Feb 2013 #19
There is no "need" to use another person's body for sex. That is a lie. redqueen Feb 2013 #15
People use other peoples bodies for sex all the time. One night stands are very common, as are DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav Feb 2013 #17
Describes lots of "marriages". Doubt there is a huge unwanted pregnancy problem, either. libdem4life Feb 2013 #18
Payment is a huge difference. redqueen Feb 2013 #20
I spoke of woman because i'm far more familiar with woman who're in the sex industry, than men. DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav Feb 2013 #22
I didn't ask why you mentioned a woman. I asked why you focused on ***women who choose to do this*** redqueen Feb 2013 #23
Woman who marry men they don't love usually end up sleeping around on them, same goes for men. DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav Feb 2013 #24
Woo Hoo! Crepuscular Feb 2013 #16
None of my business. As long as it doesn't get in the faces of the neighbors, who Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #21

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
2. It's about time someone started treating these people like people and not just
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:21 PM
Feb 2013

old horses being put out to pature. Just because you get old doesn't mean you stop wanting to have fun and not everybody wants to play bingo all the time.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
7. the older generations were brought up before they started teaching sex ed
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:26 PM
Feb 2013

Some were brought up to believe only sluts use condoms and others just don't know they need them to prevent disease.

 

Cynicus Emeritus

(172 posts)
10. Sounds like a very customer oriented facility
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:37 PM
Feb 2013

Happiness is always the most important aspect of life.

They should be treated as people with needs instead of warehousing them just as patients without much to look forward to. Sex and mind altering drugs would provide far more benefit and needed diversion. It might even be more appreciated than expensive and painful end of life care that may not improve or even prolong life.

 
13. These people have needs just like everyone else. It's not like they can get out to meet new folks.
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 06:57 PM
Feb 2013

It's the oldest profession in the world for a reason. As long as both are consenting adults It's not my place to judge either one of them.

 
19. In the OP I only noticed the word "residents" I didn't see a sex specified so
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 10:48 PM
Feb 2013

I just assumed they were speaking of both male and female. Prostitution isn't just a female profession. Male prostitutes offering services to female customers are referred to as as gigolos.

Male prostitution has been found in almost all modern and ancient cultures.[3] The practice in the ancient world of men or women selling sexual services in sacred shrines, or sacred prostitution, was attested to be practised by foreign or pagan cultures in the Hebrew Bible or Old Testament.[3] Male prostitutes are also attested to in Graeco-Roman culture in the New Testament, amongst many other ancient sources. Some interpreters consider that in one of the Pauline vice lists, 1 Corinthians 6 -10, one of the words malakoi ("soft&quot or arsenokoitai (a compound of "male" and "bed", from whence, "koitai", the word "coitus" originates, through the Latin) refer to male prostitution (or male temple prostitution): this interpretation of arsenokoitai is followed in the New Revised Standard Version.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_prostitution

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
15. There is no "need" to use another person's body for sex. That is a lie.
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 07:03 PM
Feb 2013

Prostitution is the commodification of human beings. Their very bodies.

And the usual libertarian arguments to legalize it, cause its just like drugs, are idiotic.

Black market drugs are drugs. Black market prostitutes are exploited people, children included.

The mindset that it is ok to buy sex must end.

 
17. People use other peoples bodies for sex all the time. One night stands are very common, as are
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 10:37 PM
Feb 2013

afternoon hook ups. Sex isn't just for making babies. There are a lot of woman who are prostitutes, who are drug free and sharp business woman who love what they do. The only difference between what they do and the one night stand is that they get paid.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
20. Payment is a huge difference.
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 10:27 PM
Feb 2013

I notice you have redirected back to women who choose to do this. Why?

I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about the underground ones. The ones who are hurt by the continuing idea that buying sex is an acceptable practice.

I don't care about the few, privileged prostitutes who love selling sex. My concern is for those people (again, including children) who are dragged into it by the market created by the fact that we treat this practice as if it isn't any big deal.

 
22. I spoke of woman because i'm far more familiar with woman who're in the sex industry, than men.
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 12:44 PM
Feb 2013

I've lived in many places in the world and have known some of these woman well. Most of the places I've lived it's more socially acceptable and the woman who do it aren't treated as less a person, dirty, or a dumb victim. I think it's great that their families don't have to live in shame as they do in most places in the US. Their children grow up in happy, healthy environments, treated no different by teachers and friends than any other child.

Part of the reason drugs use is so prevalent among prostitutes in the US is because people shame them and shame their job, insinuating that they must be broken or must have been dragged into the profession because surely no one "right" would ever choose to do that for a job.

I know woman who live with and or marry men only for the mans money, yet this is socially acceptable in the US. You never hear anyone insinuating those woman are victims who were dragged into the marriage. Buying sex is perfectly acceptable in this situation. I guess it's ok because there's a ring and a higher dollar amount paid?

Yes there are some children, men and woman dragged into sex for pay but far fewer than those who choose the industry and there are laws against it. Politicians murder innocent children everyday. We call it war. It pays big money. "We treat the practice as if it isn't any big deal", yet we should purge the world of prostitution. I think we have as a society have bigger fish we should be morally frying.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
23. I didn't ask why you mentioned a woman. I asked why you focused on ***women who choose to do this***
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 05:11 PM
Feb 2013

Marrying one man for security is also vastly different from sleeping with lots of men every day. Wives who marry men they don't love don't usually get PTSD from doing so.

Your gut feeling that most prostitutes chose to enter the profession cause they had lots of options and felt this one was the best fit for them means nothing.

As for your 'there are more important issues' tactic, it makes no more sense when used to silence people about this issue than any other.

It is also illogical to say that just cause it's only "some" people (including children) who are exploited and abused and raped every day due to being coerced or forced into the sex trade, that we should just ignore it. In fact, I find that mindset fucking abhorrent.

 
24. Woman who marry men they don't love usually end up sleeping around on them, same goes for men.
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 05:49 PM
Feb 2013

I wasn't speaking from a gut feeling, as I pointed out, I've known prostitutes so my experience is first hand. I never tried to silence you nor did I ever say we should ignore those forced into the trade. As a matter of fact I stated that there are laws against it. We should enforce the existing laws don't you think?

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
21. None of my business. As long as it doesn't get in the faces of the neighbors, who
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 10:30 PM
Feb 2013

might find it offensive that a prostitute is performing services next door. Let's face it...with prostitutes and such come some low lifes, and other crimes might soon follow. Sort of like drug dealing next door.

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