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spanone

(135,854 posts)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:40 PM Feb 2013

Religious groups win fight over birth control

Religious employers such as the Catholic Diocese of Nashville would not have to provide contraceptive coverage for workers under new rules released today by the Obama administration.

The new rules expand the exemption for religious groups to include religious hospitals, charities and schools. Previous rules had applied primarily to houses of worship.

The Catholic diocese in Nashville was one of a number of faith-based groups who sued to change the rules.

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20130201/NEWS06/302010130/Religious-groups-win-fight-over-birth-control?odyssey=mod|breaking|text|FRONTPAGE

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Religious groups win fight over birth control (Original Post) spanone Feb 2013 OP
So will the patient be able to buy them separately? Anyone know. southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #1
AFAIK, the insurance company will have to provide them for free to the employee. CTyankee Feb 2013 #16
Thanks CTYank. I think its so confusing. southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #18
I almost freaked when I read the scary headlines that Obama had caved to the religious CTyankee Feb 2013 #19
We don't have to worry no matter what they will find something wrong with it. southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #20
Did they provide contraceptive coverage before the reform act? Autumn Feb 2013 #2
No LeftInTX Feb 2013 #4
No--but now, these employees are covered by their insurance companies directly for bc. msanthrope Feb 2013 #10
at least one did Enrique Feb 2013 #15
It is one step forward, Control-Z Feb 2013 #3
Coverage is provided by the insurance company, not the employer for institutions claiming this. msanthrope Feb 2013 #7
Calm down? Control-Z Feb 2013 #13
I'm bettin' this includes Baptist Hospital in Nashville, too. Lars39 Feb 2013 #5
Baptist would have to claim that they are primarily a religious institution, but their insurer would msanthrope Feb 2013 #8
Unrec for vagueness--these employees are directly covered by their insurance companies, not the msanthrope Feb 2013 #6
Oh well atreides1 Feb 2013 #9
from the New York Times article today: CTyankee Feb 2013 #17
Good. Government should stay out of our sex lives. Zax2me Feb 2013 #11
when they start paying taxes then they can have a say in the rules nt msongs Feb 2013 #12
Hobby Lobby hamsterjill Feb 2013 #14

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
16. AFAIK, the insurance company will have to provide them for free to the employee.
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 04:24 PM
Feb 2013

So she/he gets the contraceptives covered, just not by the employer, but by the employer's insurance company.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
19. I almost freaked when I read the scary headlines that Obama had caved to the religious
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 04:55 PM
Feb 2013

Right, too. It wasn't until I read the NYT story and the paper's approving editorial that I breathed more easily.

This is good. It takes the religious liberty issue somewhat off the table but not of course completely, if you read the rest of the article.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
20. We don't have to worry no matter what they will find something wrong with it.
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 05:09 PM
Feb 2013

Obama can say the say is blue and the religious crazy and right will say no way its pink. I just hope people will open their mind and vote dem or indep come 2014 and 2016.

LeftInTX

(25,436 posts)
4. No
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:52 PM
Feb 2013

Catholic hospitals employee health insurance does not cover birth control.

I used to work at a Catholic hospital.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
10. No--but now, these employees are covered by their insurance companies directly for bc.
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 02:02 PM
Feb 2013

So the coverage is there.

Let the insurance companies complain to their clients about the two policies.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
7. Coverage is provided by the insurance company, not the employer for institutions claiming this.
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 02:00 PM
Feb 2013

Calm down.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
13. Calm down?
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 06:10 PM
Feb 2013

Before I read the message of your post I was going to reply with a thank you. I had, in fact, heard more about the details after my original response.

But, calm down? I hope it was not your intent to be as condescending as it appears.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
8. Baptist would have to claim that they are primarily a religious institution, but their insurer would
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 02:01 PM
Feb 2013

have to provide coverage for bc, anyway.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
6. Unrec for vagueness--these employees are directly covered by their insurance companies, not the
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:59 PM
Feb 2013

insurers. The rules allow for expansion from houses of worship to primarily religious institutions. Employees would have bc covered directly by the insurance companies, not the insurer.

Why would you post such an incomplete article?

atreides1

(16,084 posts)
9. Oh well
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 02:02 PM
Feb 2013

And yet another white flag is raised in surrender...but I guess it evens out as long as those religious affiliated hospitals, charities and schools are still prevented from bigoted hiring practices!

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
17. from the New York Times article today:
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 04:33 PM
Feb 2013

"Female employees could get free contraceptive coverage through a separate plan that would be provided by a health insurer. Institutions objecting to the coverage would not pay for the contraceptives.

Insurance companies would bear the cost of providing the separate coverage, with the possibility of recouping the costs through lower health care expenses resulting in part from fewer births."

full article here: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/02/us/politics/white-house-proposes-compromise-on-contraception-coverage.html?_r=0

I'm not sure how this is the white flag of surrender as much as it is getting a solution which sounds workable.

 

Zax2me

(2,515 posts)
11. Good. Government should stay out of our sex lives.
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 02:03 PM
Feb 2013

As long as it isn't of a criminal sort, of course.
Which brings to point - instead of forcing Catholics to provide this silly coverage that a simple trip to a free clinic can solve, and violating rights -
Use those resources instead to investigate all the sex crimes against minors in Catholic settings over the years.
This birth control free for all now everyone must participate! or bust is silly.

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
14. Hobby Lobby
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 06:20 PM
Feb 2013

"The Obama administration released new HHS mandate rules today that attempt to expand the number of religious groups that can opt out of the pro-abortion mandate — but that leaves religiously-run companies like Hobby Lobby out in the cold. Pro-life advocates oppose the mandate because it forces religious groups to pay for birth control and drugs that may cause abortions."


More at this link:

http://www.lifenews.com/2013/02/01/new-hhs-mandate-rules-force-hobby-lobby-any-religious-biz-to-comply/


Am I reading this correctly in that this is a partial victory in that private employers like Hobby Lobby will have to cover birth control?

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