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I would like to propose that people who buy guns should have the same background checks as..women who want an abortion. People who want to buy guns should have ultrasounds, body cavity searches and so on and so forth. Moreover, people who buy guns should only be able to buy them in umm...maybe one or two places in a state. And when they go to buy the gun or ammunition, there should be paid hecklers there to sort of even things up and make it all fair.
People who want to buy guns should have to pass a course or two about how and when you shoot a gun. Sort of like birth control education. Only without the baby. People who buy guns should be able to pass a first aid test, since so many of the hunters shoot themselves or someone else anyway. People who buy guns should watch those films that abortion foes want pregnant women to watch--you know, the kind where somebody is dead and sucked into a vacumn cleaner.
In some states, women who have an abortion are threatened with having their names released in the media. So people who want to buy guns should also. And if they shoot themselves or someone else-even if its an accident, they too should have their names posted. Then too, people who sell guns should have their names posted, especially if one of their sales results in a death.
People who buy guns should have a waiting period and they should not be able to buy guns during some parts of the year--like at Christmas or Thanksgiving, stuff like that. And never on the Sabbath.
What else is there?
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Bet lots of those buying weapons of war have been some of the hecklers at abortion clinics. They shout "we are prolife except when we want to shoot something with our guns and those forced births can now be aborted". It does not make sense, we don't need weapons of war on out streets. They hate Muslims and they run the streets like thugs packing their guns on their backs.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Seems like that would get some visibility?
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)(I'm a gun owner, but some of the group ARE FUCKING NUTS!)
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)Control-Z
(15,682 posts)of pissing off a gun nut is far more dangerous than that of a scaring and shaming a little 16 year old girl?
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)But its all for the greater good of maintaining the "rights" of people, so why not? We could print out some pamphlets and shit for them if they need it. And hey, we could even dispense birth control at the gun shops--God knows its needed.
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)like ten seconds before deciding antagonizing a bunch of armed insecure paranoid people might not really be a good idea.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)slackmaster
(60,567 posts)slackmaster
(60,567 posts)...background checks on firearm transfers because through due process of law we have enacted laws prohibiting certain classes of people from owning firearms.
But an abortion is a medical procedure, and my opinion is that as with all other medical procedures there should never be any kind of government-imposed hurdle other than ensuring that the procedure is done by a properly trained and licensed practitioner and in a manner consistent with accepted medical practice. The only check on someone requesting an abortion IMO should be verification that the person is either an adult or legally emancipated, and therefore legally qualified to make a medical decision without the consent of a parent or legal guardian.
In some states, women who have an abortion are threatened with having their names released in the media. So people who want to buy guns should also.
What a bizarre opinion. Wouldn't it be better if neither group of people had their names released in the media for their private, personal decisions?
I've seen some weird things posted on a supposedly progressive board, but this takes the cake.
derby378
(30,252 posts)And I'm with you on abortion as a medical procedure. The OP, if not joking, has clearly jumped the shark.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)It's just not very good rhetoric.
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)slackmaster
(60,567 posts)...or have any other redeeming value. It's unoriginal and uninspired.
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)The GOP wants to stop all Abortions. But Roe V Wade prevents that. So, they nibble around the edges. They create an endless series of hoops that are intended to make it harder for a woman to have an abortion.
I think those of us who want some sensible guns controls laws should take a similar approach. Pass laws that allow one to "keep and bear" arms ... but start to make the PURCHASE of such weapons more difficult. You can KEEP AND BEAR them AFTER you jump through the hoops of PURCHASE and SALE.
At the federal level, use the COMMERCE CLAUSE. Congress can REGULATE the SALE and the PURCHASE of goods and services. And so again, do nothing to prevent one to "KEEP AND BEAR" arms, but regulate the SALE and PURCHASE.
The anti-abortion folks try to pass laws as to who can perform an abortion. Only an OBGYN tied to a Hospital.
OK, only a federally licensed dealer can SELL weapons.
The anti-abortion right is on to something here ... ignore Roe V Wade ... attack ACCESS AND AVAILABILITY of Abortion.
Gun control advocates can learn from that approach ... sure, you can KEEP AND BEAR, but the 2nd amendment says NOTHING about the SALE AND PURCHASE.
So let's focus our efforts there. Regulation not of ownership, but of the sale and purchase.