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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:56 PM Feb 2013

Hello, DUers! Your Friday Afternoon Challenge awaits with “The Masterful Details.”

Identify these incomparable works that are made so beautiful by their detail and style...

And without cheating, please...

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Hello, DUers! Your Friday Afternoon Challenge awaits with “The Masterful Details.” (Original Post) CTyankee Feb 2013 OP
Kick this one. Kingofalldems Feb 2013 #1
from a few hundred years ago...! CTyankee Feb 2013 #2
Geez, I love these threads, but..... blue neen Feb 2013 #3
Not Michelangelo...but I can see why you thought it... CTyankee Feb 2013 #5
I'm thinking the columns are from St. Peter's Basilica. Squinch Feb 2013 #4
ahhh, no, not van gogh... CTyankee Feb 2013 #6
Oh, shoot. But I tried. Squinch Feb 2013 #7
OK, but think harder about your first guess...do you have a name, title, ?? CTyankee Feb 2013 #8
For the columns in the Basilica? I don't. Squinch Feb 2013 #10
Bernini's Baldachinno democrat in Tallahassee Feb 2013 #11
Hey! Terrific and many thanks to Squinch who got the locale! CTyankee Feb 2013 #12
I saw them (the columns) in 2008 ... oldhippie Feb 2013 #16
wasn't it fabulous, though? CTyankee Feb 2013 #20
Rats, I'm late reteachinwi Feb 2013 #23
I teach Humanities democrat in Tallahassee Feb 2013 #17
When I saw it in 2006 I just stood there, blinking...couldn't believe it...so massive... CTyankee Feb 2013 #18
So you'd prolly know the bees were a reference to the Barbieri family of which the pope was CTyankee Feb 2013 #19
was it the acanthus or the bees? CTyankee Feb 2013 #14
A wild guess on 6... joeybee12 Feb 2013 #9
Looks like Renoir, doesn't it...but no... CTyankee Feb 2013 #13
I can see him putting in that kind of detail...nt joeybee12 Feb 2013 #15
MAJOR HINT: The museum that owns painting #6 is on the west coast of the U.S. CTyankee Feb 2013 #21
So, that one's Matisse. Tea. DevonRex Feb 2013 #40
It does look like a portrait! Funny, how it takes on a different "look" when it is CTyankee Feb 2013 #43
Oh, drat! pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #22
#1 is reteachinwi Feb 2013 #24
That painting is absolutely gorgeous. DevonRex Feb 2013 #25
I wonder why Crivelli isn't better known, his work is so rich in detail and, of course, CTyankee Feb 2013 #36
yep, he enunciated the annunciate! CTyankee Feb 2013 #28
It's not a UFO. In honor of "details", let's take a closer look. greyl Feb 2013 #31
Of course. Funny how this did get interpreted in recent times, but we can see how CTyankee Feb 2013 #33
I love this stuff reteachinwi Feb 2013 #51
No. 3 is definitely From X-Men first class! pkdu Feb 2013 #26
#4 Sandro Botticelli DevonRex Feb 2013 #27
One of the finer peacocks in painting! CTyankee Feb 2013 #29
Nope. DevonRex Feb 2013 #37
Have you been to Florence? CTyankee Feb 2013 #39
No. But my DevonRex Feb 2013 #42
I found it easy to walk everywhere in Florence. CTyankee Feb 2013 #44
I love Florence! pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #46
Once you know something about the art in Florence, you want to see it all...and that CTyankee Feb 2013 #48
I was assaulted by art everywhere I turned there pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #52
My stop in Orvieto was brief and marred by lots of rain and dark skies. CTyankee Feb 2013 #54
Clueless on these, nevertheless, R&K so I can see responses. longship Feb 2013 #30
Well, #6 isn't Spitz Dog, ca. 1765, by Thomas Gainsborough pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #32
Want to guess on the little guy in #5? CTyankee Feb 2013 #35
No pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #41
Aww, and he's so cute! CTyankee Feb 2013 #45
He looks like an angel pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #47
This Challenge makes me want to... pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #34
Oh, no! CTyankee Feb 2013 #38
#5 is that little cherub holding up a mirror to Venus? Kurovski Feb 2013 #49
Sure. CTyankee Feb 2013 #50
Velázquez, Rokeby Venus Kurovski Feb 2013 #53
Art critics have all kinds of fits over the left leg of that cupid... CTyankee Feb 2013 #55
Dammit!!!! I had got around to Roman gods/goddesses DevonRex Feb 2013 #66
HINT for the remaining image, #2... CTyankee Feb 2013 #56
Is he going to be baptized? Kurovski Feb 2013 #57
Yup... CTyankee Feb 2013 #59
Does he work at Chippendales? Kurovski Feb 2013 #58
No, he couldn't dance so they wouldn't take him... CTyankee Feb 2013 #60
He can't dance, so don't ask him. Kurovski Feb 2013 #61
#2 Pierro della francesco (sp)? Kurovski Feb 2013 #62
Art critics are nuts over Piero. CTyankee Feb 2013 #64
#2's title "The Baptism of Christ". Kurovski Feb 2013 #63
If I go to London in May I will definitely see this one at the National Gallery. CTyankee Feb 2013 #65

blue neen

(12,324 posts)
3. Geez, I love these threads, but.....
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 06:23 PM
Feb 2013

......always afraid to guess!

Is #2 something by Michelangelo?

Also, I have no idea what #3 is, but it is absolutely amazing.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
5. Not Michelangelo...but I can see why you thought it...
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 06:31 PM
Feb 2013

#3 IS pretty amazing...it's one of things that just makes your jaw drop...

glad you like the Challenge! And I'm glad you are here!

Squinch

(50,957 posts)
4. I'm thinking the columns are from St. Peter's Basilica.
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 06:31 PM
Feb 2013

Is the dog Van Gogh? And a wild stab that the peacock is from some thing by DaVinci.

That's all I got. Such as it is.

 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
16. I saw them (the columns) in 2008 ...
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 06:55 PM
Feb 2013

... but I didn't know what I was looking at at the time. That happened a lot!

 

reteachinwi

(579 posts)
23. Rats, I'm late
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 10:22 PM
Feb 2013

Mom and I watched Christmas service from EWTN one Christmas. She's been to the Vatican and remarked how she thought the pillars were too weird, and didn't like them. The music was good however.

17. I teach Humanities
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 06:55 PM
Feb 2013

So maybe that is cheating. I saw the enormous thing and the fact that it doesn't even look that large inside St. Peter's is a testament to the enormity of the Basilica. The baldacchino is 92 feet tall and sits under Michelangelo's dome; it is just about my favorite piece of sculpture.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
19. So you'd prolly know the bees were a reference to the Barbieri family of which the pope was
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 07:01 PM
Feb 2013

one, Maffei Barbieri...

I don't think being a Humanities professor makes you a cheater! There is a way to really cheat, but I just ask people not to. I hope they don't. The real fun is chasing this stuff down and learning new things along the way...

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
40. So, that one's Matisse. Tea.
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 02:47 AM
Feb 2013

But I've found different versions of the title. Tea In The Garden. Tea For Three.

I recognized the dog but could never have placed it without your hint. I was thinking more expressionist than modern for some reason. Maybe because the dog's face looks like a portrait, with spare but strong brush strokes. Or maybe it's just because I love the Expressionists.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
43. It does look like a portrait! Funny, how it takes on a different "look" when it is
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 02:51 AM
Feb 2013

in such closeup.

I do find "Tea in the Garden" to be un-Matisse-y!

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
25. That painting is absolutely gorgeous.
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:14 PM
Feb 2013

I could spend hours on it, sections at a time just marveling at all the detail. It's beautiful.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
36. I wonder why Crivelli isn't better known, his work is so rich in detail and, of course,
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 02:07 AM
Feb 2013

COLOR, the signature of the Veneto Renaissance.

greyl

(22,990 posts)
31. It's not a UFO. In honor of "details", let's take a closer look.
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 01:50 AM
Feb 2013



The first impression is that at the basis of these web sites lies a very simplistic methodology, being any historical or artistic knowledge carefully avoided. The standard practice seems to be: first taking a book concerning art, better if dealing with art works of the 17th or previous centuries; then looking for any strange detail, above all saucer-like objects of any kind. That’s it. This way, obviously, it is easy both to detect strange elements and to declare them “alien” or “unidentified” in respect to the environment or the period in which they appear.

Unbelievable as it may be, those who publish this stuff really seem to have never entered a museum. If so, they would notice that there is a vast amount of Annunciations in which a ray descends from the sky reaching the Madonna. Furthermore, as far as the Crivelli painting is concerned, they would notice that the object in the sky is formed by a circle of clouds inside which there are two circles of small angels.

It is a very common way of representing the divinity, visible in so many works of sacred art.

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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
33. Of course. Funny how this did get interpreted in recent times, but we can see how
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 01:54 AM
Feb 2013

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easy it is for folks to make THAT connection.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
27. #4 Sandro Botticelli
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 12:04 AM
Feb 2013

Adoration of the Magi.

Good Lord. I knew it but couldn't remember why I knew it was Botticelli. Spent forever finding the name. Has something to do with teenage mutant ninja turtles. Don't ask.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
37. Nope.
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 02:10 AM
Feb 2013

I knew it because I made my boys learn a few things about painters other than those whose names were used by the ninja turtles. We actually have a statue in Florence called by our last name as a nickname. Most of them have nicks. So it was kind of an easy way to get them interested. At the time I was teaching the gifted & talented program at their school and I used whatever I could.

From there I went to Gaudi and architecture and let them go crazy as long as their work was structurally sound. They had a blast.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
39. Have you been to Florence?
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 02:17 AM
Feb 2013

It's been called a museum of itself, which I think is a good description.

Now, Gaudi is another thing...kind of a head trip...I went through his house in Barcelona and I swear that guy was smoking something...

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
42. No. But my
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 02:50 AM
Feb 2013

husband's family came from there and still had stories to tell. One day we'll go since there are lots of cousins there. Make a family trip of it.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
44. I found it easy to walk everywhere in Florence.
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 02:58 AM
Feb 2013

It seems like you can't turn around without encountering a masterpiece. I marvel at that city. There are so many fabulous things to see that most American tourists don't know about...they go to the Accademia to see the David and walk around the Duomo and miss some great stuff...Orcagna's tabernacle at the Orsanmichele, for instance, and the huge fresco by bonauto in the Spanish Chapel of Santa Maria Novella church. And I think the Pitti Palace is a waste of time spent in the Oltrarno, myself...go to the Brancacci Chapel instead...

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
46. I love Florence!
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 03:07 AM
Feb 2013

Went once, decades ago, and had a wonderful time. It is impressive even for us who are "art-challenged."

Orvieto, too, I'll never forget. I brought home a case or two of the wine the monks made there--and I wish I had more!

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
48. Once you know something about the art in Florence, you want to see it all...and that
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 03:13 AM
Feb 2013

is murder. Or suicide. But you just can't help it. Better to allow yourself lots of time, make a list and not plan on going crazy in one visit to the Uffizi (which is not very user friendly to begin with, so you need to beware and prioritize).

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
52. I was assaulted by art everywhere I turned there
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 03:24 AM
Feb 2013

And I mean that in a good way.

You're right--you'll want to plan on spending a lot of time there. It's a glorious experience. And don't forget to stop by Orvieto...the monks there are VERY talented.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
54. My stop in Orvieto was brief and marred by lots of rain and dark skies.
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 07:52 AM
Feb 2013

I doubt if I had any of the wine since it was a daytime stop. I guess you have to give up something...

longship

(40,416 posts)
30. Clueless on these, nevertheless, R&K so I can see responses.
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 01:30 AM
Feb 2013

Been looking for a few weeks. Fun stuff, even if I am no art expert.

Kurovski

(34,655 posts)
49. #5 is that little cherub holding up a mirror to Venus?
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 03:14 AM
Feb 2013

I don't remember the name, but if it's the one I'm thinking of, it was once a "paint by number" offering!

It's not Ingres, is it? The brush strokes are too choppy. Not Bottecelli? Am I allowed to look it up when I have these clues, or no?

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
50. Sure.
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 03:15 AM
Feb 2013

This appears to be a popular meme in painting...lots of cupids holding up mirrors to Venus. this one is prolly one of the most famous.

Kurovski

(34,655 posts)
53. Velázquez, Rokeby Venus
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 03:25 AM
Feb 2013

It goes by a number of names.

The Rokeby Venus (also known as The Toilet of Venus, Venus at her Mirror, Venus and Cupid, or La Venus del espejo)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rokeby_Venus

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
55. Art critics have all kinds of fits over the left leg of that cupid...
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 07:54 AM
Feb 2013

its sketchiness shocks them...

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
66. Dammit!!!! I had got around to Roman gods/goddesses
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 04:08 PM
Feb 2013

and was even looking through the National Gallery Collection when I just couldn't stay awake any longer. I knew that wasn't an angel in the Christian sense.

Kurovski

(34,655 posts)
62. #2 Pierro della francesco (sp)?
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 02:11 PM
Feb 2013


My computer has gone haywire, is that how you spell the artist's name? Just looked up the world's most popular baptiserizer, and found the image WAYYYy down. It doesn't seem to be all over the place, tho many religious sites use it without attribution. (for shame)

What's the story on this one, CT? any juicy details to impart?

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
64. Art critics are nuts over Piero.
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 02:48 PM
Feb 2013

della Francesca is an early Renaissance painter. There is actually such a thing as the "della Francesca trail" in Italy, where you can follow his stuff around from one hilltop town to another and I actually know someone who did just that (my ex-husband and a bit of an art snob). It's "fashionable" to do the trail. Here's an interesting short description from slowtravel:http://www.slowtrav.com/italy/art/pk_arttrails.htm

My favorite work by him is the one with the large egg suspended over a "sacra conversazione,"
and featuring one of his oddly oversized madonne. Art historians haggle over the meaning of "the egg," as they call it. It's actually called the Brera Altarpiece and is in Milan.

Here is a Wikipedia entry on "baptism" : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Baptism_of_Christ_%28Piero_della_Francesca%29

Masaccio also painting such baptisms depicting young men readying themselves for baptism: http://www.wikipaintings.org/en/masaccio/baptism-of-the-neophytes-1427

"The Flagellation of Christ" is prolly his most famous painting and it is a bit of a mystery. I am not that fond of his overly white figures but his work with the Brera piece is one of extraordinary beauty:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brera_Madonna (even with the egg and the duke in gleaming armor looking a little silly...).

You might just get hooked on this artist. He IS interesting, but he is not my big favorite. I'm just not fashionable enough, I guess...



Kurovski

(34,655 posts)
63. #2's title "The Baptism of Christ".
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 02:40 PM
Feb 2013

by Piero della Francesca, for the fully correct spelling.

Thanks, CTYankee, you're the tops!

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
65. If I go to London in May I will definitely see this one at the National Gallery.
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 02:53 PM
Feb 2013

Who knows, I may become a big fan of his after I experience this firsthand. But I'm a little too old to be putting around to hilltop towns in Tuscany...

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