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monmouth3

(3,871 posts)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 07:04 PM Feb 2013

"The Most Persecuted, the Most Ostracized, the Most Condemned Black Man in America, Then or Ever" I

This is only a small snippet of a wonderful article on Paul Robeson, "The Paul Robeson Riots of '49." This one particular snippet is about Pete Seeger..

Pete Seeger was to perform at the concert, along with several folk singers and musicians, before Robeson appeared. Seeger arrived early, at 11 a.m. The line of 2,500 union members was forming around the field like a human wall...

"It may sound silly now, but we were confident law and order would prevail," said Seeger in an interview. "I had been hit with eggs in North Carolina, Alabama and Mississippi, but this was New York State. "We heard about 150 people standing around the gate shout things like 'Go back to Russia! Kikes! Ni**er-lovers!' It was a typical KKK crowd, without bedsheets," Seeger said.

The police confiscated some baseball bats from the concert guards, and prevented a few clashes during the concert, which went on peacefully. Seeger sang folk songs, playing his banjo, and the program ranged through Mozart and Handel before Robeson came on... Seeger left the concert grounds with his wife and children, his wife's father and another couple. One of the concert guards told them to roll up their windows. A policeman in the road waved them south toward Peekskill. Around the corner was a man standing next to an immense pile of baseball-sized rocks. He took aim and hit the Seegers' car.

The stones came faster, and Seeger told everybody to get down. The windows smashed inward. A woman in the car was hit. Danny Seeger, 2, was huddled under the Jeep seat. He was covered with glass... South of Peekskill, the rock-throwing continued through Buchanan, Montrose and Croton along Route 9 as the smashed and dented cars and buses headed back to New York City.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/01/27/1182605/--The-Most-Persecuted-the-Most-Ostracized-the-Most-Condemned-Black-Man-in-America-Then-or-Ever-I

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"The Most Persecuted, the Most Ostracized, the Most Condemned Black Man in America, Then or Ever" I (Original Post) monmouth3 Feb 2013 OP
k&r Starry Messenger Feb 2013 #1
I definitely agree. I wonder why no major films have been made? He was such an outstanding man, monmouth3 Feb 2013 #2
I admire Robeson very much too. Starry Messenger Feb 2013 #3
Thank you so much for posting this. Absolutely beautiful. We need to bring Mr. Robeson back into monmouth3 Feb 2013 #5
I wrote a piece about him at my blog if you'd like to check it out Starry Messenger Feb 2013 #8
I loved it. Many thanks... monmouth3 Feb 2013 #19
Thank you for starting this thread. Starry Messenger Feb 2013 #28
The Emperor Jones CBGLuthier Feb 2013 #4
I'm going to bookmark to watch later but thank you so much for posting. I don't think I've seen this monmouth3 Feb 2013 #6
wow - just wow. Thanks so much for posting this rurallib Feb 2013 #7
We never stop learning. It was the blurb about Pete Seeger that caught my eye and then I monmouth3 Feb 2013 #16
Paul Robeson has been a hero of mine since I first read about him Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #9
This looks familiar. rug Feb 2013 #10
Thanks so much for posting this...n/t monmouth3 Feb 2013 #15
Robeson had a very interesting life, but he was hardly the most persecuted black man in America RZM Feb 2013 #11
Thank you for this OP... Spazito Feb 2013 #12
We never stop learning something new, right? monmouth3 Feb 2013 #13
I sure hope so, it keeps one young... Spazito Feb 2013 #14
I would argue he is about the last of the so-called "Renaissance men" n/t duffyduff Feb 2013 #18
I hope there will never be a "last"... Spazito Feb 2013 #23
Robeson was one of the rare individuals who excelled in a variety of unrelated fields duffyduff Feb 2013 #17
I grew up on Robeson malaise Feb 2013 #20
You are welcome.. monmouth3 Feb 2013 #21
Early last year the cultural branch of the US embassy here malaise Feb 2013 #22
Both his speaking and singing voice are mesmerizing..n/t monmouth3 Feb 2013 #24
Dad used to play Deep River malaise Feb 2013 #25
Oh malaise that was so beautiful. Thank you.. monmouth3 Feb 2013 #26
A beautiful resonance, so comforting. What a great man and strong spirit. freshwest Feb 2013 #29
Paul Robeson was really great man malaise Feb 2013 #30
Amazingly, Pete Seeger is still at it starroute Feb 2013 #27

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
1. k&r
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 07:24 PM
Feb 2013

The story of the Peekskill Riots should be a movie. I've read different accounts from several people and the savagery they faced from the mob was like something out of the middle ages.

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)
2. I definitely agree. I wonder why no major films have been made? He was such an outstanding man,
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 07:30 PM
Feb 2013

truly a Renaissance man ahead of his time. I remember his very deep voice, it was mesmerizing.

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)
5. Thank you so much for posting this. Absolutely beautiful. We need to bring Mr. Robeson back into
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 07:41 PM
Feb 2013

US conscience.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
8. I wrote a piece about him at my blog if you'd like to check it out
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 08:09 PM
Feb 2013

I posted a bit on DU last year, the link to the longer piece is in the link here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1024618

I agree, Robeson is a man for our times. He would be right there at home in the current issues of our day.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
4. The Emperor Jones
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 07:41 PM
Feb 2013

Arguably one of the single best roles any black man was allowed to play in old pre WWII Hollywood.


rurallib

(62,431 posts)
7. wow - just wow. Thanks so much for posting this
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 08:05 PM
Feb 2013

I knew only a little about Robeson til now.
But beyond that, this led to another article on the rising popularity of the old confederacy in the south:
http://www.truthdig.com/report/page2/white_power_to_the_rescue_20130128/

what an eye opener to start black history month.

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)
16. We never stop learning. It was the blurb about Pete Seeger that caught my eye and then I
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 08:45 PM
Feb 2013

was hours reading all of it. Glad you enjoyed.

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
9. Paul Robeson has been a hero of mine since I first read about him
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 08:10 PM
Feb 2013

I just wanted to know what the guy was singing "Old Man River" in an old slip of Showboat. No big deal, right?

The more I read the more astonished I became. He is truly one of the Greatest Americans to have ever lived, and certainly one of the greatest most have never heard of.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
11. Robeson had a very interesting life, but he was hardly the most persecuted black man in America
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 08:17 PM
Feb 2013

In fact, one of the remarkable things about his career was that he did manage to achieve so much in the face of racism.

He certainly encountered his fair share of bigotry, but so did the rest of the black population. And he was blacklisted, but so were plenty of other people.

The real most persecuted black in America at the time was probably some nameless person in the south, who was denied schooling and the opportunity to vote, and was eventually lynched for a crime he didn't commit. I'd say that person would qualify over a star of stage and song with an ivy-league law degree, who died of natural causes in old age.

Again, I'm not trying to minimize him or what he went through. I just think it's ridiculous to compare his life to that of millions of African-Americans who couldn't have dreamed of doing what he did. Actually that's probably part of the reason he was so popular - he gave hope to people who didn't have any.

And there is also the issue of his advocacy of Stalin and the USSR. The Kos piece seems to gloss over this, when in fact it was a crucial aspect of his identity, for which he has long been criticized from the left. Here's an example:

http://nova.wpunj.edu/newpolitics/issue25/finger25.htm

Spazito

(50,393 posts)
12. Thank you for this OP...
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 08:19 PM
Feb 2013

I recognized the name, Paul Robeson, but knew very little about him. Your OP made me want to find out more about him and ....wow, a very, very impressive person. I found this synopsis on the PBS site and found it quite informative:

"Paul Robeson was the epitome of the 20th-century Renaissance man. He was an exceptional athlete, actor, singer, cultural scholar, author, and political activist. His talents made him a revered man of his time, yet his radical political beliefs all but erased him from popular history. Today, more than one hundred years after his birth, Robeson is just beginning to receive the credit he is due.

Born in 1898, Paul Robeson grew up in Princeton, New Jersey. His father had escaped slavery and become a Presbyterian minister, while his mother was from a distinguished Philadelphia family. At seventeen, he was given a scholarship to Rutgers University, where he received an unprecedented twelve major letters in four years and was his class valedictorian. After graduating he went on to Columbia University Law School, and, in the early 1920s, took a job with a New York law firm. Racial strife at the firm ended Robeson’s career as a lawyer early, but he was soon to find an appreciative home for his talents."

more

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/episodes/paul-robeson/about-the-actor/66/

It is long past time Mr. Robeson receive the respect and admiration of his many accomplishments, imo.

Thanks again for this OP, it was an eye opener for me.

Spazito

(50,393 posts)
14. I sure hope so, it keeps one young...
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 08:40 PM
Feb 2013

and I learn something new everyday just reading DU, especially in the area of history which is a passion of mine.

Spazito

(50,393 posts)
23. I hope there will never be a "last"...
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 09:00 PM
Feb 2013

I think there will be others who excel in many fields but, for the time and circumstances in which Mr. Robeson lived, it certainly seems to me he was an extraordinary "Renaissance man" to excel in so many ways despite the to which he was subjected.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
17. Robeson was one of the rare individuals who excelled in a variety of unrelated fields
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 08:50 PM
Feb 2013

It's extremely rare to find anybody who is that diversely talented.

For my money, Robeson was just about the greatest singer who ever stepped in front of a microphone.

malaise

(269,087 posts)
22. Early last year the cultural branch of the US embassy here
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 08:58 PM
Feb 2013

hosted a one man Robeson play - it was wonderful - full of his beautiful music.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
29. A beautiful resonance, so comforting. What a great man and strong spirit.
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 10:28 PM
Feb 2013


As an artist I come to sing, but as a citizen, I will always speak for peace, and no one can silence me in this. ~ Paul Robeson

I learned some about him in high school and read his words, but never heard of this story about him in New York. I learn something everyday here at DU.

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