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rainbow4321

(9,974 posts) Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:45 AM Feb 2013

2 killed at TX gun range-one was a vet/author of "American Sniper"

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2013/02/lancaster-police-arrest-man-in-connection-with-double-slaying-in-erath-county.html/

Chris Kyle, a former Navy SEAL and author of the best-selling book American Sniper, and a second person were shot and killed Saturday at a gun range in Erath County, U.S. Marshals said.

Late Saturday, Lancaster police arrested a man who they say matched the description of a man wanted in connection with the slayings. After a brief chase, officers arrested 25-year-old Eddie Ray Routh, according to Lancaster police spokesperson Kelly Hooten.

Reporting on the shootings, the Stephenville Empire-Tribune said Erath County Sheriff Tommy Bryant would not discuss the victims. But the newspaper said that a source working at Rough Creek Lodge, which has a gun range at which the newspaper reported the slayings occurred, confirmed that one of the victims was Kyle.

WFAA-TV (Channel 8) reported that Kyle was shot point-blank while helping another soldier who is recovering from post traumatic stress syndrome.

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On edit. The sniper/vet/author quoted in some articles in the last year...on POTUS, Romney, and gun control...tin foil hats apparently already being handed out in freeperland

http://www.ijreview.com/2012/05/4647-navy-seals-slam-obama-over-bin-laden-campaign-ad/

http://www.ijreview.com/2012/05/4647-navy-seals-slam-obama-over-bin-laden-campaign-ad/

http://www.guns.com/2013/01/21/hot-show-2013-navy-seal-chris-kyle-talks-politics-obama-piers-morgan-with-guns-com/

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2 killed at TX gun range-one was a vet/author of "American Sniper" (Original Post) rainbow4321 Feb 2013 OP

I'm probably going to look at this from a whole different angle than most here. Lone_Star_Dem Feb 2013 #1

I completely agree. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #3

The whole situation is a mess. Lone_Star_Dem Feb 2013 #9

...and the shooter was at the range for--therapy? ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #10

I can't attest to the accuracy of it, but it is how the situation been being reported. Lone_Star_Dem Feb 2013 #11

The sniper was sniped rightsideout Feb 2013 #2

I wonder how many "good guys" with guns were there too? TeamPooka Feb 2013 #4

Exactly. (nt) harmonicon Feb 2013 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #5

Karma LittleBlue Feb 2013 #6

Update: shooter caught, $3mil bail, shot the 2 men at close range rainbow4321 Feb 2013 #8

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)

1. I'm probably going to look at this from a whole different angle than most here.

Reply to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 02:19 AM

Feb 2013

I cannot understand why the PTSD victim (Routh) who shot Kyle and the other victim was at a shooting range in the first place. You don't "work through" PTSD by doing what sent you to the dark place you're currently in. Bad things happen when you revisit those dark corners of your mind, and you see the horrors again as if they're brand new. To revisit them while you're armed with a lethal weapon is a terrifying situation for everyone.

I've no condemnation for any of the three people involved, please don't think that's what I'm saying. I'm just deeply saddened for the losses of life and the entire situation in general.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)

3. I completely agree.

Reply to Lone_Star_Dem (Reply #1)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 03:09 AM

Feb 2013

Initial reports here (a bit removed, in Houston) made it appear that he accosted them there, shot them, and then took one of the men's trucks. Not sure if he was shooting. Not that it really matters.

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)

9. The whole situation is a mess.

Reply to ScreamingMeemie (Reply #3)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 05:24 PM

Feb 2013

Two people dead and a third PTSD victim charged with two counts of capital murder. FUBAR.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)

10. ...and the shooter was at the range for--therapy?

Reply to Lone_Star_Dem (Reply #9)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 06:01 PM

Feb 2013

Amazing.

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)

11. I can't attest to the accuracy of it, but it is how the situation been being reported.

Reply to ScreamingMeemie (Reply #10)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 06:51 PM

Feb 2013

It appears that they're backing off the original reports that Routh suffered from PTDS a bit, though.

Former Navy SEAL Chris Kyle and his neighbor Chad Littlefield took former Marine Eddie Ray Routh to a Texas gun range to help him, but for some reason Routh allegedly turned his gun on his two mentors, killing them both, police said today.

ABC News affiliate WFAA-TV in Dallas reported that investigators said Routh, 25, was recovering from post traumatic stress disorder, but police today said they could not confirm that.

Routh, a corporal in the Marines from June 2006 to January 2010, was deployed to Iraq in 2007 and Haiti in 2010, according to the Pentagon. His current duty status is listed as reserve.

"Apparently Mr. Kyle works with people that are suffering from some issues that have been in the military and this shooter is possibly one of those people, that he had taken out to the range to mentor, to visit with, to help him, you know, that's all I can tell you," Erath County Sheriff Tommy Bryant.

"Kind of have an idea that maybe that's why they were at the range, for some type of therapy that Mr. Kyle assists people with, and I don't know if it's called shooting therapy," Bryant said. "I don't have any idea but that's what little bit of information that we can gather so far."
http://abcnews.go.com/US/navy-seal-chris-kyle-killed-shooting-range-suspect/story?id=18389238

rightsideout

(978 posts)

2. The sniper was sniped

Reply to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 02:54 AM

Feb 2013

TeamPooka

(24,250 posts)

4. I wonder how many "good guys" with guns were there too?

Reply to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 03:11 AM

Feb 2013

RIP to both men lost in this tragedy.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)

7. Exactly. (nt)

Reply to TeamPooka (Reply #4)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 04:52 AM

Feb 2013

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LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)

6. Karma

Reply to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 04:28 AM

Feb 2013

It's a bitch.

Live by the sword...

rainbow4321

(9,974 posts)

8. Update: shooter caught, $3mil bail, shot the 2 men at close range

Reply to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 04:12 PM

Feb 2013

And he was, indeed, there with the 2 guys to shoot at the range..it was not a matter of him showing up on his own and finding them.

They were there for a "charity event" being run by the sniper's company (that among other things, gave "training" to military/law enforcement:

http://www.thecraft.com/AboutUs.html

"Our goal with our courses is to do one thing; make you better by giving you the skills necessary to dominate your opponent and win".

With a GSA (government contract)
http://www.thecraft.com/contracting.html

Update on shooter,etc...
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/headlines/20130203-chris-kyle-record-holding-sniper-as-navy-seal-killed-in-double-slaying-at-erath-county-gun-range.ece

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