Hell. A few years ago I had multiple interviews with state agencies - in two of them, the interviewer pretty much came out and told me I was too old. One actually said (in response to my rather goggle-eyed "I can't believe you said that&quot , "prove I said it."

And smiled.

If the government agencies know they can blithely practice age discrimination then the private companies must know they're home free.

The behavior you described falls in line with the EEOC's strategy for 2013-2016 where they will back off on enforcement.


Can we back off from paying them since they are not doing their jobs?

No wonder the private sector feels they have carte blanche to discriminate against older applicants and employees.

another commodity.

I'm fortunate that I have my retirement savings to fall back on, as California and the Feds have pretty much demonstrated to me that I am completely and utterly disposable.

The message we are given is that older workers are a commodity and corporations are people!

I'm in California too. You would think there would be a more evolved or at least a more compassionate way of doing business here, but there isn't.

As if reaching our "golden Years" is not bad enough, millions of soon to be retirees will realize their pensions and retirement funds are empty, due to the crooked finagling of the economic thieves.

book strongly urged its reades to maintain constant vigilance over their financial assets to avoid exactly the 'crooked finagling' you mention. Of course, hearing advice and actually taking it are two entirely different matters, but I try to spend a little time each day with my portfolio to make sure that I am managing it properly and not getting set up for cruel disappointment.

A crook is a crook until he is caught ... as TR used to say.

However, sometimes the crook is not "caught" (i.e. Bernie Madoff) until many have been bilked out of their life savings; often greed-oriented people chasing that dollar sign in the sky that isn't really there and never was there to begin with except for that same old 1% who never seem to "lose" a damned thing I've noticed.

The effect of Quantiative Easing ( low interest rates) on retirement accounts:

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He should have been shown the door with the rest of the criminals!

IS WRONG WITH YOU PRES. OBAMA!?

It is this generation that has worked their butts off slaving to the likes of people like him. I should know having been one of the surfs that had to cater to these selfish freaks that are all happily long retired and living the high life in a mansion somewhere.

Now is their time for MY GENERATION to stop the working and retire but according to Big Ben, we can't have that can we? First, they must steal all they can get from people like myself, a woman that made not much and put up with a hell of a lot of crap. I was at it full-time from the age of 19 years and that is no lie. I put myself through college on my own as my WWII parents did not believe in "that college crap". I was expected to get a job ASAP and move OUT of the house and NOT be a burden any longer on my rather unforgiving parents and their household. And, so I did as they wished, I moved out at the age of 17.

I suppose the Boomers should just STFU and DIE!

For some reason, I rather doubt this will happen as we are still around, still politically active, we tend to be fairly well educated and many of us did it on our own without any help or loans at all (it is hard to get any help to go to college when you've been working full-time for years as I did). So, you did it on your own and hopefully you succeeded if you were lucky. Damn lucky.

As for IRAs and the like, the Reagun invention to bilk the poor to an even lower level in life, well that was his goal and it seems he accomplished it. Those IRAs that were supposed to pay you 10% interest a year if you dutifully contributed to them over the years are a damn joke and that "guarantee" (lie) never happened either no matter how much you tried to save and then came the idea of investing in the stock market which they can shove up their butts as far as I'm concerned as it can't keep going up and up and up forever. Time shall tell.

!!

where a message pops up on the computer screen: "Crew are expendable"

than I wanted to. To do otherwise would mean eating into the IRA just to get a little more incremental payments at an older age. Ain't no one hiring, and they make no bones about why. What's sad for younger folks is they will face an even earlier "unemployable" age than I have (now 64), and have virtually NO UNION-TYPE BENEFITS to fall back on (like predictable work schedules, benefits & job security.

I have seen the future!!

[hack, ahem]





it is temporary. and part-time.

"if you're lucky" at the end of your message.

We keep hearing about how older workers are so much more reliable, conscientious, hard working, etc. yet it's still difficult to get a job when you're older.

And yes, the group that is hit the hardest are those in my age group - early '60's. Not eligible for Medicare so we have to dip into our savings, if we even have any, to pay for exorbitant health insurance premiums until we get to 65. Then we can't even think about going to a doctor unless we're on our deathbed because in order to afford the health insurance, we have to get a high deductible. Then we have to take our Social Security early because, well, we do occasionally have to eat and buy groceries.

It's a heck of a place to find yourself in after working hard all your life, doing everything we were told to do.

and bought my house outright, leaving me with little except my IRA. Haven't been to a Doc during that time, drive a beater, used clothes, deer hunting, no trips except for family. Crappy situation, and see contemporaries worse off.

But the prop taxes are still high!

was refusing to make any cases back in the 90s and I'm sure it has only become worse since then.

"Overqualified" is my favorite code word.

older workers, for most of Robert Reich's reign?

I am only aware of this because I was involved as an advocate for a group of workers that were blatantly fired for attempting to organize themselves. The corporation didn't even bother to hide the fact that they were fired for it and NLRB just flat-out refused to enforce the law. We even appealed directly to Mr. Reich's office and were told, in governmentalese of course, "they're a big corporation, you're just a couple dozen nobodies, we're not going to bother".

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We are so screwed. It's getting obvious when NYT notices.

We vote Democratic, in order to do something about all the problems ignored by the warmongers and greedheads, yet the best we can expect is austerity.

What was that thing called? The New Veal? Beal? Zeal?...

In plutocracy world.

was gutted when Reagan came into office.

are shafted yet again...