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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 11:09 PM Feb 2013

GOP Rep Compares Gun Regulation To ‘Banning Spoons’

GOP Rep Compares Gun Regulation To ‘Banning Spoons’

By Ian Millhiser

In an exchange on ABC’s This Week this morning with Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman, Rep. Lou Barletta (R-PA) was outraged that lawmakers reacted to the mass murder of school children by an armed gunman by trying to prevent similarly disturbed individuals from obtaining guns. The Congressman claimed that limiting firearms will have as much impact on reducing gun violence as banning spoons will on preventing obesity:

BARLETTA: This is a perfect example why people believe Washington is broke. This horrific incident in Newtown, and here what is our debate? It’s focusing on guns when there is not one person at this table who really believes that that’s the root of what happened there and — when we have people that get into the mind-set that they want to harm people, as a former mayor, I know people will get guns no matter what laws we pass, just like the illegal drug –

KRUGMAN: I caught you on a false statement there because at least I do believe that guns are the root. There are crazy people everywhere, but mass murderers are a lot more common here than –

BARLETTA: You believe guns are more important than dealing with mental health and our culture. Is our culture lending itself that we’re raising children that are desensitized to murder, to killing people.

KRUGMAN: I look at the international differences — countries that have effective gun control have a lot fewer

BARLETTA: Would banning spoons stop obesity?

Watch it:

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http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/02/03/1533151/gop-rep-compares-gun-safety-to-banning-spoons/

Clearly, this leaves us two choices: 1) Replace guns with spoons or 2) ban stupidity!

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GOP Rep Compares Gun Regulation To ‘Banning Spoons’ (Original Post) ProSense Feb 2013 OP
The NRA is led by a man with mental illness Angry Dragon Feb 2013 #1
Wayne LaPierre...... chickenhawk extraordinaire? rdharma Feb 2013 #5
So spoons blow the head of a 6 year old off? Who knew? MichiganVote Feb 2013 #2
Barletta needs to be the No Vote list. Hopefully we will have a rating system and point out Thinkingabout Feb 2013 #3
Stop it, my brain is hurting already: freshwest Feb 2013 #4
Is that real? ProSense Feb 2013 #7
Actually, it is. And the meme was picked up by RW bloggers. freshwest Feb 2013 #8
ban alex jones? farminator3000 Feb 2013 #6
There are a lot more than 2 million, add Beck and more. Mitt used dog whistles, too.. freshwest Feb 2013 #9

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. Barletta needs to be the No Vote list. Hopefully we will have a rating system and point out
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 11:33 PM
Feb 2013

Those who refuse to show courage and regulate weapons.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
8. Actually, it is. And the meme was picked up by RW bloggers.
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 01:02 AM
Feb 2013

Said they are being discriminated against. So outrageous I had a hard time with it myself:

New NRA Talking Point: Banning Assault Weapons Is Just Like Racial Discrimination


January 4, 2013 - TIMOTHY JOHNSON

Former National Rifle Association president Marion Hammer compared a proposal by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) to ban assault weapons to racial discrimination. According to Hammer, "banning people and things because of the way they look went out a long time ago. But here they are again. The color of a gun. The way it looks. It's just bad politics."

Hammer's comparison came during a discussion on NRA News about Sen. Feinstein's plans to introduce legislation to ban assault weapons during the new Congress. Hammer warned that the United States government could engage in firearm confiscation "in order to control the masses..."


More at the link:

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/01/04/new-nra-talking-point-banning-assault-weapons-i/192021

Echoed on a thread here, similar words:

Gun control on minds of voters at legislative forum

COEUR d’ALENE — An anonymous caller led police to the discovery of several stolen firearms in a Dumpster.

Police received a telephone tip from a female that the guns stolen in the TKS Painting burglary on Jan. 29 were in a Dumpster near West Kathleen and Ramsey Road, according to a press release...

Then, Regan added, to some shocked and uncomfortable laughter and rumblings in the audience, "My wife and I were having this conversation and I said, 'They can't figure out what an assault weapon is - it's just black and it looks scary.' And she looks at me and says, 'Well, so is Obama.'"

http://www.cdapress.com/news/local_news/article_cd6ceb00-a272-5d21-acd7-f42c961a47a3.html

You just can't make this stuff up!

farminator3000

(2,117 posts)
6. ban alex jones?
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 12:43 AM
Feb 2013

the canadians are worried about us!

The Beliefs of Alex Jones
Mass shootings are staged. 9/11 was a government plot. The government wants to take over our minds. The list goes on and on and I have to wonder if Alex Jones suffers from some sort of bipolar disorder. Is he legally sane? It is scary to see that his radio show has two million listeners. That means there are another two million Americans giving credence to these ideas. I think of the times I have walked by somebody on a corner standing on a soapbox with a bullhorn rallying against the supposed evils of the world. Everybody walks around him and he remains there undisturbed as he technically isn't breaking any laws. Nevertheless it is obvious this person isn't completely connected to reality. I look at Alex Jones and I see the same type of person except instead of being on a corner with a bullhorn, he has a legitimate radio show plus several Internet web sites dedicated to disseminating his message to the world.

Final Word
I have to wonder if the world hasn't gone insane. I know that both the left and right sometimes (ofttimes?) portray each other as being divorced from reality and in politics I would say everybody at one time or another shoots their mouth off in the most egregious of fashions. However since the middle of 2011 when the GOP lined up their candidates for the Republican nomination, I have realised the party of the right has been hijacked by the far far right as exemplified by the Tea Party. The sky is falling; the world is coming to an end; hyperbole is the name of the outrageous game in an effort to obfuscate the details of a patriarchal, parochial, narrow Christian white view of America. Alex Jones is just another in a long line of extremist clowns whose opinions leave one stunned by the absurdity of their claims. I would go so far as to say that Alex Jones is so far out there, he makes Glenn Beck look normal and Beck is anything but.

While you may laugh at Alex Jones as I did, I have to add the sobering thought that Mitt Romney didn't lose the election by that wide of a margin. In other words, the vocal minority is more than just vocal, they are avid campaigners. Everyone should keep this in mind as we all move into the future
http://www.oyetimes.com/views/columns/34713-alex-jones-just-how-nutty-is-the-far-far-right

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
9. There are a lot more than 2 million, add Beck and more. Mitt used dog whistles, too..
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 01:27 AM
Feb 2013

This is an international thing, mentioned by some in the Egyptian spring, in many countries. Related to a lot of things. Here is another DU thread - it's mainstream:

Listeners, employees quit Georgia public broadcasting as mind-control conspiracy theorist takes over


Georgia residents have begun canceling their donations to Georgia Public Broadcasting after a recent report revealed that a former Republican state senator — who believes the United Nations is planning to turn the U.S. into a communist dictatorship using mind control — is receiving a salary of $150,000 to run part of the network.

GPB announced last month that then-State Sen. Chip Rogers (R) would be heading a new initiative to tell the story of Georgia businesses on public radio, but it wasn’t until the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported that his salary would be higher than Gov. Nathan Deal’s (R) that employees and Georgia residents began to express outrage.

GPB member Sandy Wood recently cut off her $20-a-month donation and received a letter from GPB Vice President Yvette Cook, who claimed that Rogers’ position would be funded with taxpayer money instead of listener contributions.

This week, Ashlie Wilson Pendley resigned as a senior producer for GPB’s "Lawmakers" program, noting that GPB employees had gone through four rounds of layoffs before the state created the high-paying position for Rogers...


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022253137

Yes, folks, that's the state of Georgia's public officers doing this...

And Farminator, I posted your story above in a reply to ProSense.

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