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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI hate to break it to you fear-mongering life-time NRA members,
NRA leadership, Conservative Rush-bo listeners, Lady Blah Blah dunces, Fox News listeners any paranoid gun owner:
If ANYONE actually comes for your guns it will the the party and Administration that began saying TORTURE was ok, it will the the President and Party that says if we aren't hiding anything, we shouldn't be pissed that Uncle Sam is reading our e-mails and listening to our cell phone calls, reading our texts without a warrant. ("Because, if Osama is calling someone in America, GW wants to know about it heh heh heh.)
Like Saint Ronald of Reagan who signed a gun ban to keep the black panthers from purchasing guns, WITH THE OK OF THE NRA!, it will be the Republican party that kicks in your door, uses flash grenades and stun grenades to immobilize you as they storm your house and remove every firearm you bought in a panic while Obama was President.
It isn't the black president, it isn't the fuckin' Libruls, it will be your party, the GOP who takes them away from you.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)samsingh
(17,599 posts)world wide wally
(21,748 posts)revolution. Why is it that you keep wanting to build up the military even more?
Doesn't seem to be in your favor, but I guess you're not known for intelligence.
alittlelark
(18,890 posts)For the TRUTH.
spin
(17,493 posts)and would have been happy to sign it into law. Obama will have a very difficult time and most experts feel the new AWB will not even pass in the Senate.
Let's look at some past Republican Presidents:
Richard Nixon:
We need gun laws stricter than the Brady Bill
Unless we adopt and enforce strict gun control laws--ones much tougher than the Brady Bill--we will never succeed in stemming the violence spawned by the drug trade.
Source: Seize the Moment, by Richard Nixon, p.294-295 , Jan 15, 1992
http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Richard_Nixon_Gun_Control.htm
Gerald Ford
Ban Saturday Night Specials, but no regulations nor licenses
I had always opposed federal registration of guns or the licensing of gun owners, and as President, I hadn't changed my views. At the same time, I recognized that handguns had played a key role in the increase of violent crime. Not all handguns-just those that hadn't been designed for sporting purposes. I asked Congress to ban the manufacture and sale of these "Saturday night specials."
Source: A Time To Heal, by Gerald Ford, p.292 , Jun 19, 1975
http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Gerald_Ford_Gun_Control.htm
Ronald Reagan
I'm an NRA member & I support the Brady Bill
(In a 1991 speech, Reagan said): "I'm a member of the NRA. And my position on the right to bear arms is well known. But I support the Brady bill and I urge the Congress to enact it without delay. It's just plain common sense that there be a waiting period [7 days] to allow local law enforcement officials to conduct background checks on those who wish to buy a handgun."
http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Ronald_Reagan_Gun_Control.htm
George H. W. Bush
In 1989, then President George H.W. Bush issued an executive order halting the importation of some semi-automatic firearms after a mass school shooting Stockton, California. He based his executive order on the 1968 Gun Control Act and used it to ban the shipment of what could be considered assault weapons unless they were used for sporting purposes. (Question: Did the free republic cease to exist then?)
http://www.politicususa.com/presidents-bush-clinton-executive-orders-reform-gun-laws.html
George W Bush
Would sign, but would not push, gun restrictions
Bush has said he would sign a law requiring trigger locks with handgun sales but wouldnt push such legislation. Bush has endorsed outlawing the import of certain high-capacity ammunition clips. Bush also would raise the legal age for handgun purchases from 18 to 21.
Source: Judy Holland, Hearst Newspapers , Apr 14, 2000
Ban automatic weapons & high-capacity ammunition clips
Supports stronger enforcement of existing gun laws, would provide more funding for aggressive gun law enforcement programs such as Project Exile in Richmond, Virginia
Supports requiring instant background checks at gun shows by allowing gun show promoters to access the instant check system on behalf of vendors
Supports law-abiding Americans constitutional right to own guns to protect their families and home
Supports the current ban on automatic weapons
Supports banning the importation of foreign made, high-capacity ammunition clips
Supports voluntary safety locks
Opposes government mandated registration of all guns owned by law abiding citizens
Source: GeorgeWBush.com: Issues: Policy Points Overview , Apr 2, 2000
http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/George_W__Bush_Gun_Control.htm
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And how about the last Republican Candidate for POTUS?
Mitt Romney
2002: I will not chip away at MA's tough gun laws
In 1994 Romney had supported firearms-control measures opposed by the National Rifle Association: the so-called Brady Bill, which restricted the sale of handguns, and the assault weapons ban. During the 1994 senatorial campaign he had taunted: "That's not going to make me the hero of the NRA." He reinforced his support for these measures when he ran for governor in 2002, when he promised not to chip away at the Commonwealth's tough gun laws. Now as a presidential candidate, Romney presented himself disingenuously as a lifetime member of the NRA and a hunter of "varmints," which prompted the acerbic Boston Globe columnist Joan Vennochi to write: "Leave it to Mitt Romney to shoot himself in the foot with a gun he doesn't own."
Source: An Inside Look, by R.B.Scott, p.144-145 , Nov 22, 2011
http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Mitt_Romney_Gun_Control.htm
Kablooie
(18,635 posts)They know their own people and realize that if they were in control and someone did something they didn't like they'd have no compunction about kicking down the door and locking everyone up.
They assume that if they would do that, everyone else would too.
Essentially they want the guns to protect themselves from themselves.
I wish they'd follow it out to it's logical conclusion and all shoot themselves.
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)me b zola
(19,053 posts)This should be repeated over and over whenever they wet their panties in fear of President Obama taking their guns. I also point out that President Obama has done nothing but loosen gun laws.
Good to see you Mojo
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)guardian
(2,282 posts)for all progressives to own guns.
hack89
(39,171 posts)we can't even pass a meaningless AWB.
former9thward
(32,030 posts)yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)I am on your side in this argument but I find this kind of confrontation unappealing. How does it help further reasoned debate?