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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:39 AM Feb 2013

Black-and-white TV makes comeback in UK

Black-and-white TV makes comeback in UK

Emerging technologies are changing the way we get our entertainment. But not for everyone.

Forty years after television was transmitted in colour for the first time in the UK, new figures show that more than 13,000 homes are still enjoying their programmes in black and white.

Al Jazeera's Jessica Baldwin reports from London.

(video at link)

http://www.aljazeera.com/video/europe/2013/02/201323121421762347.html

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Black-and-white TV makes comeback in UK (Original Post) The Straight Story Feb 2013 OP
Is that a "come back" for black and white or TexasProgresive Feb 2013 #1
Some are working on a way to re-broadcast shows in B&W there (nt) The Straight Story Feb 2013 #2
What's to work on TexasProgresive Feb 2013 #5
A little more insight as to possibly why: The Straight Story Feb 2013 #6
'Some' meaning the guy in the interview muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #7
It's Economics... KharmaTrain Feb 2013 #3
13,000 is a comeback? Zax2me Feb 2013 #4

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
1. Is that a "come back" for black and white or
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 09:48 AM
Feb 2013

are those 13 thousand homes of elderly people who are watching old sets? I don't think anyone manufactures G&W sets.

My Dad watched an ancient 13" B&W set for years. When it went on the fritz I had to convince him it would be too costly to repair and he consented to me buying him and new 19" color set. If that B&W set hadn't broke he would've watched it until he died.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
5. What's to work on
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 10:09 AM
Feb 2013

I'm watching Daniel Boone in B&W as originally broadcasted in Black and White in a modern HiDef Digital broadcast on a flat screen TV

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
6. A little more insight as to possibly why:
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 10:23 AM
Feb 2013

from wiki:

One of the great technical challenges of introducing color broadcast television was the desire to conserve bandwidth, potentially three times that of the existing black-and-white (B&W) standards, and not use an excessive amount of radio spectrum. In the United States, after considerable research, the National Television Systems Committee[1] approved an all-electronic system developed by RCA which encoded the color information separately from the brightness information and greatly reduced the resolution of the color information in order to conserve bandwidth. The brightness image remained compatible with existing B&W television sets at slightly reduced resolution, while color televisions could decode the extra information in the signal and produce a limited-resolution color display. The higher resolution B&W and lower resolution color images combine in the eye to produce a seemingly high-resolution color image. The NTSC standard represented a major technical achievement.


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also:

There is a significant difference between the color revolution and digital/high definition revolution: RCA's NTSC system was accepted in 1953 because the new color broadcasts were compatible with the nation's millions of black and white receivers. Not so with digital broadcasting, which is transmitted over UHF frequencies and requires all new "ATSC" tuners to receive the digital signals which are not compatible with the RCA/NTSC system. The viewing public needed to make the switch to new digital TV sets, relatively inexpensive converters allow older TV's to view digital broadcasts.

http://www.ev1.pair.com/colorTV/colortv-revolution.html

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For a monochrome set, it's much simpler: The RF signal is received, and the composite video signal is detected from it. And that composite video signal is used to display a picture. The colour signal is ignored, the tuner bandwidth mayn't be wide enough to pass it through. And the video circuitry bandwidth mightn't be wide enough to pass it through, either, even if the tuner did pass it. If the colour signal does get through, it'll be seen as a fuzzy dot pattern on top of the picture, there's nothing in the monochrome receiver to make use of it, anyway.

http://www.cameratim.com/info/colour-video#television

muriel_volestrangler

(101,326 posts)
7. 'Some' meaning the guy in the interview
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 10:40 AM
Feb 2013

and I doubt he'd get the bandwidth necessary - he'd have to bid for it, and it would cost millions (he'd be up against mobile phone companies, emergency services, the BBC and other broadcasters ...).

It's not 'making a comeback' at all. It just hasn't died yet.

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
3. It's Economics...
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 10:04 AM
Feb 2013

British tele viewers still pay a license fee...and black and white sets are still cheaper:

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/tv-licence-types-and-costs-top2/

It costs £145.50 for a colour and £49.00 for a black and white TV Licence. In some cases, you may be entitled to a reduced fee TV Licence


 

Zax2me

(2,515 posts)
4. 13,000 is a comeback?
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 10:07 AM
Feb 2013

Not likely.
They will always be around in these statistically insignificant numbers.

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