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Should buyers of Lance Armstrong's books get a refund?
Disgruntled purchasers of disgraced cyclist Lance Armstrong's autobiography are demanding a refund in the courts. Are they really entitled to their money back?
It wasn't about the bike, after all.
It was about the drugs, the lies and the remorseless smears levelled at anyone who dared stand up to Lance Armstrong.
The cyclist's televised confession that he cheated his way to seven Tour de France victories between 1999 and 2005 rendered his two autobiographies - It's Not About the Bike: My Journey Back to Life (2000) and sequel Every Second Counts (2003) - hollow and fraudulent.
The admission shattered the faith of millions, and now readers who bought into Armstrong's inspiring fabrications - about his fightback from cancer to sporting triumph through honest hard work - are seeking compensation.
Two Californians have filed a class-action lawsuit against the cyclist and his publishers Penguin and Random House - on behalf of themselves and other residents of California who bought the books - demanding refunds and other costs.
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hobbit709
(41,694 posts)I doubt they'll ever get anything.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)just about as fast as John Edwards refunds all the campaign contributions that he took in for his 2008 run. And Johnny actually has the possible ability to pay, I doubt that Armstrong is nearly that flush with cash.
I guess the First Amendment protects the rights of fiction writers.
hlthe2b
(102,308 posts)Regardless, he did race the races and mark the times. Drugs alone did not allow him to do that, even though they obviously maximized his performance.
I'm not defending him, but geebus. Enough. Some act as though anyone with a bottle of EPO could have done what Lance (and others did), sans any innate skill and incredibly intense training.
sendero
(28,552 posts)... was a scam a long time ago. And he is still playing the same games, he is still the same narcissist. He has several serious lawsuits coming his way, some of which are going to take a serious bite out of his ass, but when you buy a book, you buy a book. There is no implicit guarantee of any kind associated with your purchase, except perhaps that all the pages are actually there.
Some people are just daft.
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)In the immortal words of Mark Twain:
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)Are the ones who came in second place in the races he won. They might have gotten some work (commercials, product endorsement, whatever) out of winning these races.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)or accused of it...the doping was and is so widespread in this sport that saying 100% of cyclists do it is not far off.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)At least I don't have to feel sorry for them.
alp227
(32,037 posts)then why not for Armstrong's books?
rppper
(2,952 posts)Here's a little reminder for the younger crowd....or older if you missed put on guns and roses or soundgarden in 1989...
Check out this video on YouTube:
gollygee
(22,336 posts)If you ever heard them in an interview, their speaking voice is so different from the voices in the songs that it was very obvious they weren't doing the singing.
alp227
(32,037 posts)I think their first interviews sparked the lip synching rumors. People were wondering, the rapper doesn't sound the same talking as he does rapping in "Girl You Know It's True".
However I wonder, does one's regional accent show in singing? I listen to a lot of British artists and have often been surprised sometimes when I learn about a singer being from the UK.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)And it seemed like a very strong accent, if I remember correctly, and the guys singing seem obviously to be American. As soon as I heard them in an interview, I felt certain they weren't singing those songs.
But of course it's been ages. It seems like the people doing the Grammys should have been able to tell though.
Johonny
(20,860 posts)He has tainted the movies legacy with me.