What you "young turds" are missing about halftime show
Sure, some people were not happy with the outfits. Some said they didn't like Beyonce's music. For our differences in taste, we've been pilloried on DU, with lots of jokes about The Andrew Sisters and Lawrence Welk.
My problem with show was, well, the show. The young turds keep saying what a great singer/performer Beyonce is. But I saw 20-30 other women on that stage dancing the exact same steps as Beyonce, against a million-dollar backdrop of lighting, video displays and pyrotechnics. Beyonce wasn't even singing (or lip syncing) for much of the time, she was just shaking her half-naked body while stuff blew up, and lights flashed in a display which probably sent a few epileptics into shock.
The point is, in this era of manufactured boy bands and Disney Channel dolls, the young turds seem to not realize what it means to be a "band" or even a singer. What was amazing (and sickening, if you really think about the expense of this brief extravaganza in a stadium full of people who paid $3,400 to watch a game, but complain about a tiny tax increase), was just the spectacle. Dozens of pretty women dancing about on an electrified video game set, and people are saying "she's an awesome singer!"
Meh. I've seen a hundred strippers do the same moves. Beyonce didn't write the music, didn't build the stage, didn't fire off the rockets, hell, she can't even play an instrument. She was a prop in someone else's stage show.
BTW, I'm an "old turd" who prefers college radio, alt rock (whatever that is) and most anything played by actual musicians. I just can't stand packaged sugar pops. That's just the way my taste runs.
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She should shut-up and cover up. 
But it was not so bad that her pair of support hose couldn't keep it together. 
Pretty hard for cellulite (not "cellulose" to form when your job is to dance/entertain/exercise/practice like she does.
surely win! 
And the Cowboys!
"Light My Fire" instead of the censored version (w/o "girl, we couldn't get much higher" the management requested? Got them banned from the show.
Lip synced? Not so much.
he would routinely miss 25-30% of his notes in live performance BEFORE THE ADVENT OF THE PHONOGRAPH RECORD Its invention forced classical pianists like him to aspire to higher performance standards b/c audiences who had listened to the record now expected the same level of perfection in performance.
nothing really beats acoustic string band music as you described.
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" she was just shaking her half-naked body " OHYEAH!
That's the part I liked and I liked it better than a bunch of idiots chasing after a piece of plastic and pretending that it meant anything. 
No, seriously, I get your point. But taken as a whole, not just Beyonce, it was a diverting entertaining musical multimedia presentation. Fun.
And watching pro sports is no more than a diverting entertaining multimedia presentation anyway.
That said, I switched over to see Fox cartoon repeats for much of the night. Football and most professional sports make me yawn. Waste of time and effort. At least, the cartoons make some political points occasionally.
As I said... carry on.
... and only heard (rather than saw) the performance. My wife commented that she could not tell where one song ended and another began.
Musical taste is entirely subjective, but I do often suspect that a lot of artists get a pass (on their "talent" based on WHO they are and not any particular talent or ability. Sure Beyonce is a beautiful women, but artist? Just like Bieber is an artist.
There was nothing there to hold my attention.
The half-time show isn't really supposed to be a musical performance; the music is background. It supports the performance. Because it's the superbowl, the expectation for something BIG is automatic, and you end up with something BIG. I only watched 20 minutes or so of the whole game, and didn't bother with the halftime show. I never do.
The references to old singers from 50 years ago, and "get of my lawn," demonstrate that you don't really have any idea what my post was about.
Her voice isn't what it used to be...but I'll take her in concert
any day over Beyonce.
Here's a photo I took of her (yes, it was a private performance and we were
allowed to take photos--but requested to do so only at the beginning of the concert
and not while she was singing).
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"Respectable burlesque -- you can go to your local red light district and see a lot more of what she does for a lot less money."
rocktivity
And apparently you feel "to each his own" doesn't apply to me.
. . . when the halftime show began, as I did.
.. curmudgeon as some posters in this thread, someone please put me out of my misery.This is some of the same sort of bitter crap that was hurled at artists that are now considered icons of the music industry, when they were early in their careers.
But of course, the Music World should have stopped moving forward at the point you aged masters of all good taste deem appropriate, but alas, it didn't.
Or perhaps have the Conference Runners Up play one quarter for third place........
... The only partial song she sang that I liked and that I think is her only claim to fame is "Put a
Ring On It". She can't seem to top that one. Otherwise, I too was disappointed in the half-time show last night. I liked the pregame show best. The Sandy Hook Children's Choir and Jennifer Hudson, and Alicia Keyes.
But. Atman, I'm an old turd too. Honestly, we can't deny the young turds their time. We were young once too, and personally I think our generation's music was the the greatest. I remember flying home several times when I was young when my grandma was very old (age 97) and sitting on the side of her bed with my guitar singing John Denver songs. She loved it, or at least the smile on her face said so. There was a strong musical gene running through our family, including grandma, my mother, and now my sister, my son. We are music lovers. And even though I didn't much care for last nights performance, it was music. I would rather have heard Beyonce than some country & western extravaganza. I would have turned that off, flat out.
Each to their own, Atman. Diversity is the spice of life, and all that. We didn't like this one, but I bet you we like the next one.
They could bring back "Up with People"
I'm presupposing that most people have rather varied opinions about subjective forms of entertainment-- music being one of them. Some people may enjoy her music and believe she's an awesome singer, while others may not, regardless whether one may think she's manufactured (much like The Monkees-- one of my favorite bands when I was young) or not.
I've always thought that if we give those things we do enjoy the same attention we give to those things we don't, we'd be much happier as both individuals and collectively. And to be honest, "That's just the way my taste runs..."
"For our differences in taste, we've been pilloried on DU...". I'd imagine that it's not so much the leaning of our likes and tastes, but the negative way and the vulgar form in which we tell others of what we may find distasteful. For example...
"I've seen a hundred strippers do the same moves.", " She was a prop in someone else's stage show..." "I just can't stand packaged sugar pops..." Which to me, sounds much like something a "turd" would say, regardless of whether he is young or old...
I couldn't agree more!!
Bake
If you really want to measure the square inches of skin, she's was probably half-naked. But the was a very minor partial sentence of my post.
You say it was a minor point in your post, but it tells me something about what people think they saw and are basing some of their negative comments on that.
I have no opinion of her performance, I didn't see it. I did see pictures of what she had on though and felt I had to point out that with the exception of her head, neck, shoulders and arms. She was completely covered.
maybe I'm commenting in the wrong thread?
I'm a roadie. I have worked with many many bands. Many you have heard of I understand exactly what you are saying. The shit that passes for music these days is sad. Used to be you went into the garage, you banged out a bunch of songs with your friends, then you gigged incessantly in clubs honing your chops and your stage skills. By the time you got on the road you were a seasoned player.
Now you go down to your local stadium when American Idol comes to town and "audition". Then if you get picked you get told where to sing, what to sing, how to sing, how to dress, how to hold the mic, how to stand, how to walk and how to play to the camera. You are focus grouped into some generic version of a pop star.
We thought we killed Disco in the late 70's. We were wrong. It came back in a dozen other forms, Rap, Hip Hop, House, Electronica, Pop, Dubstep.. it's all freakin disco music.
If it's any consolation my kids 3 teenage boys agree with us. My oldest likes some of the current music but his favorites are Buddy Holly and Queen.. My middle son has an affinity for AC/DC and my youngest is a Floyd and REM fan.
The record industry is dying, soon most artists will be using things like Reverb Nation to release their own material. While you won't see bands selling 20 million records anymore you will see a larger variety of bands making a decent living doing it on their own.
Seriously. Good vocal mixing. We encouraged him along the way by buying him an eight track mixing board for his Mac, and he plugged in his keyboard, his mic, his guitar, and layered it with loops from GarageBand. It's as good as anything I've heard on "college radio." But how do you make a living now? He's going on tour with his MacBook?
It reminds me of long ago, going to see World Party at Stowe Vermont. WP consistent of Mark Wallinger of The Waterboys. That was it. He played every instrument, sang every vocal. And this was long before the MacBook or GarageBand. Old fashioned tape loops. So when he play "live," he had to hire session musicians to re-create the stuff that he had originally recorded. It sounded perfect. Too perfect. Between the loops and the session musicians sticking to script, there was no life to the concert. I could have sat in a field and listened to a big loud amp playing one of World Party's CD's.
That's why Beyonce has to do a million-dollar stage show, and what "the kids" don't understand. Bands used to rely on their talent, and cheap shit like a cherry picker (to hover Mick Jagger over the crowd with a wireless mic!) or some douche like David Lee Roth, drunk off his ass, jumping off the drum set onto a tumbling mat. It was lo-rent, but the music was always REAL. Super real. They make up for it now with pyrotechnics, a hundred dancers, and lip syncing. And they charge $140 a ticket.
BTW, the last major show I saw was Peter Gabriel's New Blood Orchestra...call me an old fart, but it was one of the finest concerts I've ever seen. He had the giant JumboTron screens all over the place. Many of the same effects and lighting features Beyonce used...but he had a REAL 46 piece orchestra, plus a band that played real music while he sang real songs. I know that is not what the SB halftime show is for, but it saddens on of my boys has only been dragged to a Hillary Duff arena show by his girlfriend, while my other son has at least camped in a soggy field for a weekend for a multi-stage rock-fest with twenty bands. But shit...I used to see three or four major arena shows a summer. Now, no one can afford one, and if you do, you're seeing pre-packaged pap. It's just sad. That's all I'm saying.
These damned kids think they know music -- GET OFF MY LAWN!
I DETEST most of today's shit "music" and I DETESTED DISCO back in the day - I did not consider it real music! Maybe I was spoiled by Radio Caroline which I picked up off the east coast of England. And may I say your children are awesome?
You, PeaceNikki, LanternWaste, etc, etc, etc...you think you have some incite, but you don't know a thing about what I posted.
You forgot to say we should have the Andrew Sisters play at the next Super Bowl.
I love it. And I am amused by the young turds who have a problem with this.
