get to reflect on something they steadfastly refused to recognize before: the racist roots of gun control, and then only because other stereotypes of gun-owners/whites could be force-fit into their minds.

Oh, the irony and the agility! But it is progress.

That would do it.

I wish I could DURec individual replies!

If he hadn't been dressed as a "house negro" (using language from Django Unchained), he wouldn't have made it a foot before he was hogtied, or more likely just gunned down in a hail of bullets.

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We both know that is not true.

I'm making my comments based upon lots of documented history. Pesky facts and all that.

What the hell does that have to do with the fact that black people regularly get shot to death in America?

And in answer to your goalpost-moving, there is PLENTY of violence amongst teabaggers.

http://www.google.com/search?q=violent+teabaggers

I pointed you to an armed black man that teabaggers love, and now you're saying "well they'll have to dress a certain way".

that black people regularly get shot to death in America?

Not by teabaggers, though.

> You said armed black men would scare teabaggers

Nope, never said it. Show me where. I'll wait. Until then, bone up on your reading comprehension.

You just know if a bunch of inner-city looking black and Latino people showed up in mass at a gun shows things would change.

I go to gun shows and shooting ranges in the Chicago area pretty regularly.

African American, Latino and Asians are all there in spite of your narrow vision stereotyping.

Do you assume, for some odd reason, that African Americans can't or don't want to enjoy the shooting sports? Or are you one of those that think they all live in city ghettos?

While we're at it, tell us all what an "inner-city looking black and Latino" looks like, so we can recognize them.

You and Bong Bong make a great pair.

Does that count? Odds are most of them were baggers.

Then again I know a whole lot of gun people.

afraid of guns, only of the nuts who want no regulation at all. Odds are the same idiots blathering about their Sacred Right to Bear Arms are also the same ones who want to silence all of us evil libs and supported oppressive voter ID laws for "those people." Rights are only sacred when they're theirs and it's sickening.

Must be wonderful to have that certainty.

Bryant

> all the people that disagree with me are racist idiots.

You are reading somebody's mind, but not mine!

Nothing beats pointing out a typo.

Maybe I'm missing your point.

any black man in a suit is now a house negro?

Are you always this racist or did the gun debate bring it out?

Just referencing a currently popular movie.

Take up your claims of racism with Tarantino.

No I don't think we should take it up with Tarantino - i think we should take it up with you - since you are the one who said it here.

That said, someone who starts many of his/her posts with LOL may not be taking this seriously.

> i think we should take it up with you

OK, well, as I said in my original post it was in the words of Django Unchained. There ya' go!

> hat said, someone who starts many of his/her posts with LOL may not be taking this seriously.

The entire "I gotta have a gun!" mindset from the Delicate Flowers is worthy of little else than derision. Their cowardice & fear is helping destroy America.

So I could say any hateful nasty thing I wanted so long as I quoted a film? And anyway even as you quote Tarantino you are a coward about it - that movie doesn't say Negro when it can say another word starting with N.

Bryant

> So I could say any hateful nasty thing I wanted so long as I quoted a film?

I'm not the DU censor, so let 'er rip!

> that movie doesn't say Negro when it can say another word starting with N.

I don't like that word, so I don't use it.

Such as they are.

Bryant

> apparently you're fond of the phrase "House Negro"?

Apparently your mind-reading skilz aren't up to snuff. Get a refund wherever you took classes.

your earlier posts, Sparky.
It is not in dispute that you used the phrase "House Negro". It is also not in dispute that you said the reason you don't use the N word is because you don't "like it".
I now eagerly await your lame-ass attempts to explain how you didn't say what you said.
Hint ... promiscuous use of the LOL smilie probably won't cut it (even though that's all you've got).

> is not in dispute that you used the phrase "House Negro". It is also not in dispute that you said the reason you don't use the N word is

I hope you understand that the "N word" is not "house negro". If you don't get that, well, I'm here to tell you that it isn't.

Perhaps not all of DU is on the same page, cultural-knowledge speaking. If so, there are various websites (like urban slang) where one can come up to speed.

> promiscuous use of the LOL smilie probably won't cut it

I only use it when I'm responding to an especially ridiculous post.

"I hope you understand that the "N word" is not "house negro". If you don't get that, well, I'm here to tell you that it isn't". That's what you said.

If you don't get the fact that "House Negro", if not as foul a slur as the "N" word, is still highly offensive, well, I'm here to tell you that it is.

I was initially willing to assume that you, in your ignorance, simply used an offensive phrase in an ill-advised cultural reference. However, your unwillingness to address your fuck-up makes it clear that it was, in fact, an intentional use of a phrase that has been long acknowledged as a racial slur.

> (masses of indignation & name-calling deleted)

Is that all the thanks I get for telling a guy who "teaches reading comprehension" that the "N word" is not "house negro"?

You'd think that people would be more grateful! Pearls before swine and all that....

And how exactly "should' a black person dress so that they don't look like a "house negro"?

Curious minds want to know.

> You used the term. Own it.

Is everybody that uses, for example, Fred Phelps' terms, supposed to "own them"? Interesting....

you were applying it to the person in that photograph, not just quoting a movie. That was you doing that, not Quentin Tarantino (and BTW, he didn't invent the term). So tell us - how is that gentleman dressed like a "house negro" and what, to your mind, is the "correct" dress for an African American?

> how is that gentleman dressed like a "house negro"

He resembled the people in the movie "Django Unchained" that were labeled that way.

> what, to your mind, is the "correct" dress for an African American?

Anything they want to wear.

To refresh your memory:

Look at it's responses on this thread alone. A couple of Hmmmmms, a few LOLs, and no acknowledgement of the fact that it used a a racial slur.

I haven't seen dancing that fast since Riverdance. Perhaps next time you'll choose your words more carefully, even though the bigotry will probably still be there.

If only the Delicate Flowers were this upset when guns were used to slaughter Americans.

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Hey, look! Dead children!

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A Tolkien reference!

tap-tap-tappity-tap-tap-tappity-tappity-tappity-tap

Let me get out the bodhran - this is gonna take a while.

Cuz bongbong is dead!

I wonder what the tipping point was for bb?

> I haven't seen dancing that fast since Riverdance.

Seeing as how I pointed out my reference in my initial post, there was no dancing involved. That Riverdance must have been in stop-motion. Hope you got a refund.

No one cares where you got the reference from. People care why you applied the reference to this context (Black man in a long sleeve collared shirt, with slacks).

> People care why you applied the reference to this context

I'm pretty sure that only Delicate Flowers are concerned, and that further they're only concerned because their Precious is being questioned, and in addition they think they finally have a "GOTCHA!" on one of their most hated posters.

In fact I'd bet Large on it.

I do not much like the person in that photo upthread, because he was doing something that humiliates normal gun owners of every political stripe. (And he was a teabagger, IIRC, an equal opportunity political role)

You made a spectacularly derogatory inference to his manner of dress insulating him from arrest/police harassment, and I just don't think that follows. If it did, the same social evolutionary winnowing process that brings us things like evolving religions or manners of speech, would see most black people in the US dressing like him, if no other reason than to escape unequal police enforcement/ticketing/searches black people are subjected to. (Which of course, would not work, and your inference was similarly flawed)

http://www.aclu.org/racial-justice/driving-while-black-racial-profiling-our-nations-highways

> If it did, the same social evolutionary winnowing process that brings us things like evolving religions or manners of speech, would see most black people in the US dressing like him, if no other reason than to escape unequal police enforcement/ticketing/searches black people are subjected to.

That is not a logical conclusion at all, since people dress for many reasons, and you can't turn it into a Vulcan type question of pure reason (altho' your logic train is far from airtight)

Driving is an especially bad example, as most of the time a person can't see the totality of what a driver is wearing from outside the vehicle.

Some black people do attempt to drive 'milder' cars and different manners of dress to escape it. (To no statistically meaningful effect)

Such countermeasures don't appear to work, thus are not widespread. I contend that the manner of dress of the man in that photo was no insulation at all against police harassment.

> I contend that the manner of dress of the man in that photo was no insulation at all against police harassment.

However, probably the fact he called the cops up and warned them that he was going to be there with a gun was.

Because I still don't see your connection.

your quote

*That is not a logical conclusion at all, since people dress for many reasons,*

and yet your first thought when you see a black man in a suit is house negro?

Is hilarious. Keep digging that hole!

DU wins!

Buh bye bong bong!

Truly a one trick pony.

If you notice though, there are about 10 other posters who now rely on that particular rhetorical device when they've run out of words...

...but maybe they won't talk so much smack now that their fearless leader has been shown the door.

A little music with the pizza, perhaps?

What the fuck can you say to these people? Nothing. Through the magic of Facebook, I've "reconnected" with former high-school classmates from Mobile, Alabama. So now I get an opportunity to look into the bizarre worldview of the paranoid, right-wing, Southern, Christian conservatives. There seems to be a sizable minority who share a violent, delusional, paranoid, fantasy that they constitute an underground movement of armed patriots -- prepared to rise up in violent revolution against the tyrannical dictator.

It's fucking ridiculous. Half of these idiots have college degrees. Most of them seemed to be normal citizens when we were growing up together long ago.

They "share" these ridiculous pictures on Facebook with each other that contain "clever" and "subtle" hints to the coming "revolution".

What the fuck is wrong with these nitwits?

To white males not being in the majority anymore, and not being totally in control of everything (altho' the number is still 95+%)

Really, I do.

However, I don't see much concern from them after a slaughter perpetrated by a gun-totin' "Bad Guy".

Why is that?

Funny how the Delicate Flowers get SO ENRAGED whenever a Liberal questions their Precious.

Same as always. Fear & emotion, screaming at the "evil libruls"

But don't let me get in the way of your deflection.

Therefore, it has now declared itself the winner, and is free to continue to spew whatever racial invective it so chooses. Objections to such racist claptrap will be instantly rendered meaningless by the keenly incisive witty retort that is "LOL".

If only you Delicate Flowers were as concerned about the slaughter that you don't bat an eye over.

The concern never ends!

You're a regular Two-Gun Sam, aren't you?

you used the term house negro here.

are you always this racist or did the gun debate release some latent racist tendencies ?

> are you always this racist

I'm only referencing the movie. Sorry if you don't get that!

so that makes your racist posts less offensive...got it

> o that makes your racist posts less offensive...got it

Do you think that quoting Fred Phelps makes one a hate-filled bigot, too?

do you think calling people house negros is ok?

And I was just quoting a movie.

Your concern is touching.

for calling every black man in a suit a house negro

> for calling every black man in a suit a house negro

I hope you let me know if I ever do that.

maybe your racist views would be more welcome on stormfront?

I'm disqualified for three reasons.

They hate non-racists, gun control people, and Liberals.

Please explain why his being dressed in a long sleeve collared shirt and grey slacks = 'house negro'.

Because simply saying 'I'm just quoting the movie' doesn't explain the association.

He is not dressed like the people from the movie.

I was hoping you'd come up with something else, but it seems you are equating a long sleeved collared shirt and slacks to = 'house negro'. I really hope that isn't what you are insinuating.

I didn't know there were that many blacks in the House! I'm glad that the repigs haven't gerrymandered their way to dictatorship everywhere (I'm assuming that none of the people pictured were elected in a repig-gerrymandered district).

Using the passion behind the violence and against the NRA as an opening to use racist terminology and lay other flamebait turds.

It is pathetic, if you ask me.

....

Oh the poor widdle NRA! So defenseless!

don't you think using the term house negro to describe a black man in a suit is offensive?.

Guess you don't since you use it.

You're so concerned, in fact, that you didn't even notice he wasn't wearing a suit.

Don't worry, I know what you Delicate Flowers are REALLY concerned about.

I'm just trying to figure out how you feel comfortable here...with all the negros and such that post here.

That whole civil rights thing must really itch at you.
Does a black man in a suit with a gun scare you that much?

> Does a black man in a suit with a gun scare you that much?

If I was scared I'd get a gun! I'm not. But Delicate Flowers are so terrified of everyday life that they need their Precious to summon up enough (fake) courage to be able to crawl out from under their beds.

and obnoxious trolls we've seen for a while. I suppose that's why it was so easy to convince it to basically tombstone itself.

Well, one of four if you count the one that was pardoned and subsequently PPR'd.

Hey, you're entitled to your opinion.

You dog.

Fuck you!

Pointing to a movie does not change the fact that you just used that racial slur here on DU. Yes, YOU used that slur. Disgusting.