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alp227

(32,025 posts)
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 10:30 PM Feb 2013

Cupertino lets dogs loose to fix geese problem at parks

The problematic Canada geese at Cupertino parks are going to be told to "move along" by specially trained herding dogs later this spring, summer and fall.

The Cupertino City Council voted 4-1 Tuesday night to change its municipal code to allow professional off-leash dog services to come in the spring and summer specifically to chase away the messy waterfowl. It is currently a violation of city ordinance to have a dog off-leash in public for any reason.

"We wanted to make it clear for the professional goose services that this was also exempted," said Timm Borden, the city's public works director.

The city's unofficial war on geese has seen a number of strategies implemented the past three years. The geese and the fecal mess they leave behind have long been a problem at city parks, especially Memorial Park on Stevens Creek Boulevard.

full: http://www.mercurynews.com/rss/ci_22533945

I live in the same county as this city and have frequently visited it. Cupertino, also the home of Apple Computer, is a politically left wing place. Do you think this is a good idea or should the city just clean up after the geese instead?

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Cupertino lets dogs loose to fix geese problem at parks (Original Post) alp227 Feb 2013 OP
As long as the dogs are specially trained "geese police" who will herd away undeterred Feb 2013 #1
It is impossible to clean up after geese. The best option is to drive them from parks and bluestate10 Feb 2013 #2
In my area, they addle the eggs to cut down the population. FSogol Feb 2013 #3
how sad Liberal_in_LA Feb 2013 #4
Kinda of, but they never get all the nests, so every Srping there are still some FSogol Feb 2013 #7
Good idea. bluedigger Feb 2013 #5
Gotta be careful with waterfowl and dogs in the water.. A HERETIC I AM Feb 2013 #8
She just goes after her ball. bluedigger Feb 2013 #9
A Waterdoodle no doubt. lonestarnot Feb 2013 #15
We just had a local man here in Illinois, a kayaker, drowned by geese. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2013 #12
I believe it. A HERETIC I AM Feb 2013 #14
Left goose wing, perchance? MADem Feb 2013 #6
The geese should be contributed to the local food bank. FarCenter Feb 2013 #10
Ooh, you said that on DU of all places? Expect a whole bunch more replies... alp227 Feb 2013 #16
Why do the geese mull around there? Food? LiberalFighter Feb 2013 #11
They eat grass XemaSab Feb 2013 #13

undeterred

(34,658 posts)
1. As long as the dogs are specially trained "geese police" who will herd away
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 10:36 PM
Feb 2013

the geese from the parks and have someone to clean up their poop, its great. They had to close some beaches here in Madison last year because the water had a high bacterial content because of the geese poop. There's nothing wrong with keeping geese away from densely populated areas where humans want to hang out.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
2. It is impossible to clean up after geese. The best option is to drive them from parks and
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 10:38 PM
Feb 2013

set up habitats where geese can live and breed unmolested.

FSogol

(45,485 posts)
3. In my area, they addle the eggs to cut down the population.
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 10:46 PM
Feb 2013

The geese were once migratory, but now are a constant problem.

* Egg addling involves coating the egg in mineral oil. No oxygen gets to the embryo and it dies.

FSogol

(45,485 posts)
7. Kinda of, but they never get all the nests, so every Srping there are still some
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 10:58 PM
Feb 2013

fuzzy chicks following Mom around.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
5. Good idea.
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 10:52 PM
Feb 2013

One of our town parks has a geese problem due to a couple of small man made ponds. A lot of the rec fields are covered in goose poop, along with the baseball fields.

I walk my dog around there and taught her to swim in the ponds. She'd be a good goose dog.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,368 posts)
8. Gotta be careful with waterfowl and dogs in the water..
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 11:00 PM
Feb 2013

Unless its a true water dog, like a Lab or a Spaniel breed, once in the water, the dog is in the birds domain now.

My Boston loved to swim and did so with no fear., He was also unafraid of any damned goose or anything like that.

One time I was in Cheyenne, WY at a hotel and there was a Swan in the pond. Mr. BB decided to go for a swim, but he wasn't molesting the Swan. He was curious about it, but I made him "Leave it" alone (a command I used regularly)

Well, that damned Swan came right over and tried to climb up on his back and push his head underwater!

BB was a little tough guy, and didn't put up with any crap, but if I hadn't been there to wade in up to my thighs to grab him and whack that Swan, he might just have drowned my dog.

On land? No problem. Chase them away. They'll fly.

On water? They'll use their wings and their webbed feet and out maneuver a dog in a heartbeat.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
9. She just goes after her ball.
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 11:28 PM
Feb 2013

She's about 60 lbs. and it's shallow enough I could wade out there if she got in trouble. She decided to check out some ducklings last summer, and they would let her get within about six feet and then take off across the water.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,328 posts)
12. We just had a local man here in Illinois, a kayaker, drowned by geese.
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 12:11 AM
Feb 2013

I never knew.

A friend of mine works near by where that incident happened. Their maintenance man was attacked by geese and ended up in the hospital. He says the guy looked like he was in a bar fight.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,368 posts)
14. I believe it.
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 12:36 AM
Feb 2013

Some large birds can be aggressive as hell.


Some small ones, too! Though it might take more than a few Barn Swallows to drown you!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
6. Left goose wing, perchance?
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 10:58 PM
Feb 2013

They do this at airfields too, to avoid Bird Strike Aircraft Hazard (BASH) events.

It's a good way to get them to move along--it doesn't hurt them, it just encourages them to go somewhere outside airfield/city limits.

LiberalFighter

(50,928 posts)
11. Why do the geese mull around there? Food?
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 11:48 PM
Feb 2013

Do park visitors feed the geese or leave food that the geese will eat? How about prohibiting that and having certain ponds dedicated for geese nearby?

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