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Bonobo

(29,257 posts) Thu Feb 7, 2013, 02:16 AM Feb 2013

Brass tacks: Why don't OTHER countries need to go around killing people?

England, France, Germany, Japan, Brazil, China, Korea...

THEY don't send unmanned drones flying into sovereign countries, firing missiles and blowing people into bits in order to protect THEIR freedoms and safeguard their citizens and way of life.

Why does the US? Is it really necessary?

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Brass tacks: Why don't OTHER countries need to go around killing people? (Original Post) Bonobo Feb 2013 OP

Do the lack of replies indicate that it is impossible to answer? Bonobo Feb 2013 #1

France is fighting in Mali FrodosPet Feb 2013 #2

I heard on NPR that we are lending them our drone service. Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #3

Good question. 'Cuz they're not exceptional like us? Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #4

Yes, it's necessery Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #5

Du rec. Nt xchrom Feb 2013 #6

we kill so they won't have to. (but actually, i think they do, just maybe not quite as much.) HiPointDem Feb 2013 #7

They do. Not as much, of course, but they do. cali Feb 2013 #8

Well the difference is scale is so vast that, in essence, they do not use them. Bonobo Feb 2013 #10

In Theory... KharmaTrain Feb 2013 #9

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)

1. Do the lack of replies indicate that it is impossible to answer?

Reply to Bonobo (Original post)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 02:56 AM

Feb 2013

Or that it is a stupid question?

Or that everyone is asleep?

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)

2. France is fighting in Mali

Reply to Bonobo (Reply #1)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 03:00 AM

Feb 2013

But honestly I do not know if they are using drones.

Common Sense Party

(14,139 posts)

3. I heard on NPR that we are lending them our drone service.

Reply to FrodosPet (Reply #2)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 03:18 AM

Feb 2013

When it absolutely, positively has to be blown up overnight.

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)

4. Good question. 'Cuz they're not exceptional like us?

Reply to Bonobo (Original post)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 03:22 AM

Feb 2013

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)

5. Yes, it's necessery

Reply to Bonobo (Original post)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 03:26 AM

Feb 2013

If we don't send armed drones around the world to attack and kill people, our freedumz will be gone. It's true.

Why do you think countries such as Germany, Japan and England have zero freedumz? They don't attack people with drones thousands of miles away.

That's why.

xchrom

(108,903 posts)

6. Du rec. Nt

Reply to Bonobo (Original post)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 05:53 AM

Feb 2013

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)

7. we kill so they won't have to. (but actually, i think they do, just maybe not quite as much.)

Reply to Bonobo (Original post)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 05:56 AM

Feb 2013

like this guy that the russians killed with a maxwell-smart-style deadly umbrella:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgi_Markov

all those gadgets in 'get smart' were actually close to the truth, as it turns out.

cali

(114,904 posts)

8. They do. Not as much, of course, but they do.

Reply to Bonobo (Original post)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 06:01 AM

Feb 2013

And often is concert with us.

And you know I'm opposed to targeted killings and drone strikes. Still, it's unnecessary to rewrite reality to make your point.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)

10. Well the difference is scale is so vast that, in essence, they do not use them.

Reply to cali (Reply #8)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 07:05 AM

Feb 2013

The US drone attacks happen several times per week for the last 4 years and have killed over 2,000 in Pakistan alone.

It is simply no comparison.

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)

9. In Theory...

Reply to Bonobo (Original post)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 06:28 AM

Feb 2013

The UK and Germany are part of the coalition in Afghanistan and seem to be fine with the use of drones. I recently read that the French were employing drones in Mali and also have been parts of coalitions with the U.S. and other European nations.

The point that seems to be missing here is drone technology is the latest "big thing" in war...just like the chariot, gunpowder...the latest game changer that only offers temporary advantage for one side over another. The "success" of drones are being noted by every military on the planet as it's far cheaper to send a robot to do the dirty work rather than live bodies. The genie is out of the bottle as future wars will include these and other forms of robotics...soldiers will move further from the battlefield and leave only non-combatants in the crossfire.

This isn't only a U.S. problem...it's an international one and the U.N. has been very silent on this issue. There needs to be some kind of protocols as to where drones can be used (such as survelliance or in purely designated war zones) and where their use falls into what would be considered "inhuman".

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