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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEnding the gun industry’s legal immunity
Although most progressives have long been aware that our gun laws are woefully inadequate, until recently, people not regularly engaged in the gun debate were probably not aware of some of the little insidious laws that congress has passed at the behest of the NRA. For example, there is the ban on funding of research related to gun violence. There are a bunch of little laws handicapping the ATF, for example, the rule that the ATF can't inspect a gun dealer more than once a year.
And then there is the law that gives gun manufacturers and dealers immunity from most liability lawsuits. Fortunately, there seems to be a push to get rid of this immunity. I don't know if it will succeed, but it is nice to see lawmakers take aim at these laws laws that increase gun sales at the cost of greater gun violence.
http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/02/05/ending-the-gun-industrys-legal-immunity/
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)I wouldn't think it can apply where a gun is legally purchased and then used to murder - it could apply where the companies let loopholes be used to circumvent background checks.
Bryant
jmg257
(11,996 posts)to Federal Licensed dealers (or maybe direct to LE agencies.)
on edit:
POSSIBLY companies could be liable for some negligence, but more like recklessness, in 'packaging' firearms that might apeal to kids (as shown in a couple other threads). May be they could be held reckless in not providing more safe features like built in trigger locks, etc. Which BTW, I think many gunners tend to avoid such products.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)But if there are faultlines that would be one of them I think.
Bryant
hack89
(39,171 posts)in case anyone wants to read the details:
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-109s397enr/pdf/BILLS-109s397enr.pdf
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)They're immune from liability for crimes committed by people who use their products.
Nobody tries to sue car manufacturers for accidents caused by people who are speeding or driving drunk. The federal law in question was an unintended consequence of a series of SLAPP lawsuits.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)The same tort laws that work for automobiles, tobacco, etc. are good enough for the gun industry.
badtoworse
(5,957 posts)If not at the end of legally conducted sale, then when?
DanTex
(20,709 posts)My point is that judges and juries should decide these cases based on the same precedents and criteria that are applied to any other industry. The gun industry shouldn't get a free pass because of the influence the NRA has on the Republican party.
badtoworse
(5,957 posts)Certain cities, in particular, were trying to use the courts to accomplish something they could not get from the legislatures, i.e. making firearms unavailable. The need to defend an avalanche of largely meritless lawsuits would have either bankrupted the gun manufacturers or forced them to raise the cost of their products to the point where they would be unaffordable for the average person. That is not a proper use of the civil justice system and the law was entirely appropriate under the circumstances.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)badtoworse
(5,957 posts)backwoodsbob
(6,001 posts)instead of using republican Brady Group talking points