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Cyrano

(15,035 posts)
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 11:59 AM Feb 2013

Senator Ashley Judd?

There’s talk that Ashley Judd will be running against Mitch McConnell for his senate seat from Kentucky next year.

I know very little about Kentucky politics. But it seems to me that a liberal like Ms Judd would have a really difficult time winning in a very red state – even against McConnell.

It would be great to see her whip Mr. “My main goal is to make Obama a one-term president.” But I’m not sure it’s realistic.

Any opinions from DUers who live in Kentucky?

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Senator Ashley Judd? (Original Post) Cyrano Feb 2013 OP
Karl Rove thinks it's realistic Enrique Feb 2013 #1
Polling showed McConnell leading by only 4 points in a contest with Judd pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #2
Are Kentuckians drinking less tea these days Cyrano Feb 2013 #3
Public Policy Polling survey showed Judd within 4 points of McConnell... Brother Buzz Feb 2013 #4
turtleboy's internal polling showed the same margin frylock Feb 2013 #14
I'd wager Turtleboy's internal polls dropped an entire point after Rove's ad ran Brother Buzz Feb 2013 #18
not a wager i'd take.. frylock Feb 2013 #20
Why Republicans Are Getting Antsy Over Ashley Judd..... Little Star Feb 2013 #5
It's good to see that the rethugs are nervous. Cyrano Feb 2013 #6
Kentucky Democrat here... CherokeeDem Feb 2013 #7
Thanks, CherokeeDem. It sure is gonna be interesting. Cyrano Feb 2013 #9
Thank you for your perspective from Kentucky, Cha Feb 2013 #24
I don't know if she's a good debater or campaigner aint_no_life_nowhere Feb 2013 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author kentuck Feb 2013 #10
Maybe this link will work? kentuck Feb 2013 #11
I didn't know that. This may turn into Cyrano Feb 2013 #12
It's unusual but Democrats tend to vote in higher numbers than Repubs in off-year elections in KY.. kentuck Feb 2013 #13
Fellow cultist here... CherokeeDem Feb 2013 #22
The mountains tend to be very Republican... kentuck Feb 2013 #28
love seeing her at the games during the big tourney.. frylock Feb 2013 #16
Maybe he does know that and that's why he's scared. Iggo Feb 2013 #23
Senatory Ashley Judd - the Unturtle. Whisp Feb 2013 #15
With big coal in the picture, it's going to be a nasty fight. EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #17
That ad with the Tennessee thing will hurt. Everything else in the ad is weak stuff. AlinPA Feb 2013 #19
A big non-Kentucky supporter of Ashley Judd. One thing, however, I just read is that she is libdem4life Feb 2013 #21
Their divorce seems to be pretty amicable. I question whether the timing was because he didn't okaawhatever Feb 2013 #26
Was hoping there was more to it and it makes sense. Hope she crosses the finish line 1st in KY. libdem4life Feb 2013 #27
It's a long shot, in my opinion Bake Feb 2013 #25

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
2. Polling showed McConnell leading by only 4 points in a contest with Judd
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 12:09 PM
Feb 2013

She's made no decision yet, but it looks like she wouldn't have as hard a time as one might expect. And the ad against her shows how serious a threat Republicans consider her.

Brother Buzz

(36,433 posts)
4. Public Policy Polling survey showed Judd within 4 points of McConnell...
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 12:11 PM
Feb 2013

and she hasn't even tossed her hat in the ring.

Rove and his crappy American Crossroads PAC are trying to nip it in the bud.

Brother Buzz

(36,433 posts)
18. I'd wager Turtleboy's internal polls dropped an entire point after Rove's ad ran
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 03:52 PM
Feb 2013

Last edited Thu Feb 7, 2013, 07:27 PM - Edit history (1)

frylock

(34,825 posts)
20. not a wager i'd take..
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 04:04 PM
Feb 2013

Ms. Judd is probably rather respected and adored throughout the state, whereas mcconnell is one of the most hated life forms on the continent.

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
5. Why Republicans Are Getting Antsy Over Ashley Judd.....
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 12:13 PM
Feb 2013

National Journal
By Michael Catalini
Updated: February 7, 2013 | 9:32 a.m.
February 6, 2013

Do the GOP's early attacks against the Hollywood actress mean they're nervous about her potential candidacy?

Actress Ashley Judd hasn't declared if she'll challenge Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell in next year’s Kentucky Senate race. But from the way Republicans are acting, they sound a little bit jumpy about the prospect of her campaign.

American Crossroads spent $10,000 this week on a Web-only ad exploiting her myriad political weaknesses. The ad pointed out that Judd lives in Tennessee, not Kentucky; she's an actress--how could Hollywood stars relate to down-to-earth Kentuckians?; and, perhaps most damaging, she campaigned vigorously for President Obama, who's unpopular in Kentucky. "I will go wherever the president wants to go," Judd says in a sound bite from the ad.

"A lot of people are pumping a lot of hot air into the Ashley Judd trial balloon," said American Crossroads spokesman Jonathan Collegio. "This was designed to pin prick that."

But for an undeclared candidate whose liberal views make her candidacy vulnerable to attack, they’re doing an awful lot to dissuade her from running. Why not wait until she’s actually in the race before launching grade-A opposition research against her? Democrats believe that it’s a sign of how vulnerable McConnell is. Even his own polling, released in December, showed McConnell stuck at 47 percent against Judd, holding only a 4-point lead.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/why-republicans-are-getting-antsy-over-ashley-judd-20130206

I think there's a good chance of her taking that seat if she runs and I hope she does. Why else is the GOP spending such a huge amount of cash when she hasn't even declared yet.

Cyrano

(15,035 posts)
6. It's good to see that the rethugs are nervous.
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 12:32 PM
Feb 2013

But I just don't get it. Kentucky seems to be as red as it gets. What happened there?

Anyone familiar with Kentucky politics?

CherokeeDem

(3,709 posts)
7. Kentucky Democrat here...
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 12:42 PM
Feb 2013

Can Judd win? Possibly...I certainly never thought that Rand Paul could, but I was wrong. Cyrano asked in one reply to this thread if the tea party was dimming in KY. I think it is to the extent that is dimming everywhere.

Kentucky politics have always been a bit strange. We were once a Democratic state but Reagan changed that, but Kentucky actually went for Bill Clinton one election. Our current governor, Steve Breshear is a fairly liberal Democrat, and I have hope that the next governor will be his Lt. Gov, a good liberal.

The congressional district that I live in (Lexington) just elected Andy Barr, a true nutcase, as US Rep, defeating a Democrat...or DINO...as Ben Chandler proved to be. Lexington is a more liberal community than the rest of the state (other than Louisville), but Chandler had done nothing to distinguish himself and Barr won this year after narrowly losing last election cycle.

At the risk of invoking the gun, god, and pickup truck meme, this state will most likely remain conservative for a long time. But remember this is a state where the small town of Vicco, KY pop ~1500 just voted to ban discrimination against gays. Vicco is nestled deep in the mountains...if they can be enlightened, there is hope.

The tide appears to be turning against Mitch...but not sure which direction yet...to a more progressive side or toward the Teabaggers. With Judd polling so well, against McConnell, maybe we are looking at a sea change here. Going to be an interesting couple of years.

Cyrano

(15,035 posts)
9. Thanks, CherokeeDem. It sure is gonna be interesting.
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 01:27 PM
Feb 2013

Perhaps we're seeing the beginning of the end of the "Old South."
Virginia voted for Obama twice and North Carolina once. (I believe the second time the vote was suppressed/stolen in NC.)

If Ms Judd runs and wins, we may finally see an end to the "Southern Strategy." And that means today's GOP will be dead in the water. They'll be forced to enter the 21st century.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
8. I don't know if she's a good debater or campaigner
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 12:44 PM
Feb 2013

but just the idea of seeing her in all her classiness and glamour standing next to a decrepit tortoise on a debate stage has got to make Republicans think twice.

Response to Cyrano (Original post)

kentuck

(111,095 posts)
11. Maybe this link will work?
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 01:41 PM
Feb 2013

Being a Wildcat fan is more important than Party affiliation in the state of Kentucky. Perhaps Karl Rove does not know that?

kentuck

(111,095 posts)
13. It's unusual but Democrats tend to vote in higher numbers than Repubs in off-year elections in KY..
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 02:27 PM
Feb 2013

I don't know why? Maybe it is because there are very poor Republicans that are not as easy to get to the polls during hard times. KY basketball is like a religion. I admit that I belong to a cult.

CherokeeDem

(3,709 posts)
22. Fellow cultist here...
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 05:26 PM
Feb 2013

Love Kentucky basketball and really loving what's happening with the football team...maybe we'll win a game next year! Wanna bet Ashley Judd shows up at a football game or two????

Louisville, Lexington, and to some extent Northern Kentucky tend to vote more in off year elections...and with more Democrats registered in the urban areas, it helps.

Go Cats!!

frylock

(34,825 posts)
16. love seeing her at the games during the big tourney..
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 03:50 PM
Feb 2013

hell, I just love seeing her. who am I kidding. I'm madly in love with that woman!

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
21. A big non-Kentucky supporter of Ashley Judd. One thing, however, I just read is that she is
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 04:05 PM
Feb 2013

getting a divorce. The timing could be problematic...he's a winning race car driver with a public persona of his own. Maybe if it's not acrimonious.

The obvious differences between the two candidates could bode well for Ms. Judd.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
26. Their divorce seems to be pretty amicable. I question whether the timing was because he didn't
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 07:15 PM
Feb 2013

want to move to KY and become the husband of a senator. He's driving Formula 1 now but ran Nascar for a couple of years so KY fans will know him. I think he would even help her campaign.

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