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US News and World Report:
The White House's pick for CIA chief says the harsh interrogation technique known as waterboarding is reprehensible and should not be used on terror suspects but he is refusing to call it a form of torture.
John Brennan says waterboarding should have never been legal and will never be used under his watch if he is confirmed as the Central Intelligence Agency director.
But he stopped short several times of calling it torture despite pointed questioning Thursday by Sen. Carl Levin of Michigan.
http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2013/02/07/cia-pick-avoids-calling-waterboarding-torture
UPDATE:
Torture in the USA is now a joke
Ill be brief, Burr told the nominee to lead the Central Intelligence Agency. I see youre on your fourth glass of water and I dont want to be accused of waterboarding you.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/02/07/richard-burr-cracks-waterboarding-joke/
kpete
(71,991 posts)the cover-up
seen this movie before haven't we?
peace, kp
Can't be honest about your actions,..will never be honest in dealing with them.
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)If he admits it is torture, he admits committing a crime.
nice and neat
peace, kp
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)him to the implementation of waterboarding.
former9thward
(32,006 posts)The U.S. is not a signatory to the International Criminal Court. They have no jurisdiction in the U.S.
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)And we are signataries of some international laws about crimes including torture.
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)Because once the Obama administration lets that word loose, then the stage is set for war crimes charges.
RickFromMN
(478 posts)former9thward
(32,006 posts)The U.S. is not part of the International Criminal Court. They have no jurisdiction.
RickFromMN
(478 posts)There must be an international, or should I say, United Nations way to try war crimes.
I consider torture to be a war crime.
The United States could hardly be expected to give an impartial trial internally.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)then we'll see if he thinks it's torture.
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)...but your main concern is that he didn't directly call it a form of torture?
Come on.
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)...in fact, his bio at the CIA from 1999-2005 clearly indicates he was working on the analyst side of the CIA, not the operations side which would have conducted or overseen the waterboarding:
*1999: Appointed chief of staff to George Tenet, then-Director of the CIA.
*2001: Brennan became deputy executive director of the CIA in March 2001.
*2003-2004: Director of the newly created Terrorist Threat Integration Center, an office that sifted through and compiled information for President Bush's daily top secret intelligence briefings and employed the services of analysts from a dozen U.S. agencies and entities.
*2004-2005: His last post within the Intelligence Community was as director of the National Counterterrorism Center which incorporated information on terrorist activities across U.S. agencies.
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)the sponsors of torture.
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)robinlynne
(15,481 posts)the architect of drone strikes as well. (I didnt know that part until juts now)
I read several article s about him, all damaging. he was one of the worst torture proponents under W. That is why code pink was in the hearing protesting today.
He represents water boarding.
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)robinlynne
(15,481 posts)I would just google. there are many articles out and about.
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)xocet
(3,871 posts)There. Problem solved.
The issue has been sanitized.
Nothing to see here. Move along.
Go ahead. Move along.
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)Bonobo
(29,257 posts)robinlynne
(15,481 posts)Solly Mack
(90,767 posts)Members of our government are laughing over torture.
appal_jack
(3,813 posts)Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)Last edited Thu Feb 7, 2013, 10:41 PM - Edit history (1)
He'd tell the committee that it was torture, and that he directed his inquisitors to use the technique because it worked at getting actionable intelligence from those suspected of witchcraft and heresy.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)It should work for the CIA. Call it the Brennan Doctrine.
All who worked for the CIA in supervisory posts during the period in which torture or enhanced interrogation was administered should not be confirmed for the leadership post in the CIA. We must assume they had the ability to speak out or act against the policy, and they did not have the courage or common sense to do it.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)I hate this game.
Here's the way it works, Republicans break the law, claim they didn't and then DARE Democrats to claim they did so they can accuse the Democrats of being the bad guys by persecuting poor innocent Republicans who didn't do anything wrong.
I say, drag them out kicking and screaming, strip them naked, cover them in hot tar followed by feathers and ride them out of town on a rail bouncing their nut sack against the pole the whole way.
You know,...just to be traditional...
Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)I'm still shaking my head over the Orwellian phrase 'Harsh Interrogation Techniques". It almost sounds like satire, it's so contemptible.
valerief
(53,235 posts)too-stupid-to-live teabaggers, we might as well call ourselves the United States of Fecalmerica.
1-Old-Man
(2,667 posts)I'm serious, the man came across as reasonable and competent. He did not try to be evasive, he was not trying to impose his own will nor was he willing to say anything to please, he disagreed with several Senators several times. This will be the guy who is confirmed, and he will deserve it I suppose. One thing for sure, after today's hearing I'd have to say that the President could have done a whole lot worse.
By the way, I'd bet Hayden doesn't sleep well tonight.
Heywood J
(2,515 posts)Remember, waterboarding was considered a war crime at the Tokyo tribunal. Japanese officers were sentenced for it.