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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:02 PM Feb 2013

Nothing against tweety, but his love of Philly is overcoming his artistic sense, IMO...

I know he loves the actors doing their Philly accents and the director getting all the lingo right, but I didn't feel that "Silver Linings Playbook" was THAT great...

sorry, there was a lot of yelling and disruptive behavior problems and I get that. But I don't think that is really the apex of acting to be able to throw stuff around like Brad Cooper did or roll eyes like Jennifer lawrence did...

To me, great acting is "The King's Speech"...understated but perfectly tuned...

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Nothing against tweety, but his love of Philly is overcoming his artistic sense, IMO... (Original Post) CTyankee Feb 2013 OP
With you, yank, elleng Feb 2013 #1
He was just fawning over that director! He didn't get how he had been manipulated... CTyankee Feb 2013 #3
Can you give us alittle background on this movie. southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #2
It is about a working class family in Philadephia whose grown son has a psychiatric CTyankee Feb 2013 #5
I was wondering what it was about. Thank you. southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #6
No one drives on 76. It's the schukyll Beaverhausen Feb 2013 #4
Hard to take it out on Matthews when the film is getting lots of awards for acting and directing Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #7
well, but chewing the scenery is what actors always do...so even when it is necssary it CTyankee Feb 2013 #9
Doesn't bother me elfin Feb 2013 #8
No problem with what you say, but I wonder if the producer and director didn't just CTyankee Feb 2013 #10
Still give him a pass - he is smart enough to sense exploitation elfin Feb 2013 #11
I think he was taken in, myself...but that's just me...I thought he was entranced by Hollywood. CTyankee Feb 2013 #12
I thought it was absolutely wonderful. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #13
It is a great story and very moving, IMO. I just didn't like the oveacting meant to acheive CTyankee Feb 2013 #15
The one thing I don't get is the fuss over Jennifer Lawrence. She's good, but not great, IMO. Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #16
I thought the same thing. I didn't see that "spark" of genius I've seen wih other CTyankee Feb 2013 #17
I think Jacki (sp?) Weaver did a terrific job as the mother... HereSince1628 Feb 2013 #21
I saw both. Yes Silver Linings is THAT good. It's up for Acad. Award Best Picture. Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #14
Loved Argo. Great movie. CTyankee Feb 2013 #18
Oh, well, yes, I gotta agree with you there. Much more difficult acting in King's Speech. Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #19
It's like the difference of character development that Meryl Streep or Jody Foster or CTyankee Feb 2013 #20
Watch the movie "Winter's Bone"... rucky Feb 2013 #22

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
3. He was just fawning over that director! He didn't get how he had been manipulated...
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:14 PM
Feb 2013

poor Tweety...I could see a sly smile on that director's face...Tweety was a pushover...

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
5. It is about a working class family in Philadephia whose grown son has a psychiatric
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:17 PM
Feb 2013

illness and had been hospitalized when his issues made him violent. It is about how he controls or doesn't control his illness with drugs when he comes home. And he meets a young widow who has similar (but not the same) psychiatric issues.

I don't quibble over the humanization of mental illness, but I think it took a back seat to overacting and over hyping by the director of the film...

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
7. Hard to take it out on Matthews when the film is getting lots of awards for acting and directing
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:26 PM
Feb 2013

First film since the early 80's to have a nomination in each of the acting categories for the Oscars. Director also nominated. Lawrence already won the Golden Globe. BAFTA nominations, Spirit nominations, you name it.
I have not seen the film, but I'd say Chris's opinion is shared by the bulk of the film going public. I sure as hell loved Lawrence in Winter's Bone.
One has to assume that those who nominated those actors did not do so thinking 'throwing furniture is the apex of acting' any more than those who nominated Helena B-C for King's Speech were thinking 'she poses so well in nice hats'.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
9. well, but chewing the scenery is what actors always do...so even when it is necssary it
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 08:20 PM
Feb 2013

IS a bit suspect, Helena's hat to the contrary.

I really don't know how you can compare the two films. And I am glad they are not up against each other. I was just making a comparison.

I just love the "excellent" moments in Kings Speech and the blare of Silver Linings and I feel for the first and not the second, in terms of my empathy.

elfin

(6,262 posts)
8. Doesn't bother me
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 08:13 PM
Feb 2013

He has his own show and platform to showcase what stirs his heart.

I liked the movie a lot, and am glad it is causing more discussion about how mental maladies affect entire families and friends and how they cope with them successfully via talk, meds, activity etc.

Chris crows about Philly, but that is just a touchstone for him to expand on the bigger issues.

Compared to other movies like Lincoln and Les Mis, this is a "small" entrant. However, it is worthy for consideration, especially for Lawrence and DeNiro IMO.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
10. No problem with what you say, but I wonder if the producer and director didn't just
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 08:25 PM
Feb 2013

exploit it for that interview on Tweety. It was kinda sad, taking advantage of Tweety's obvious love for his town and pumping it up into a paean for his movie?

I was dismayed...

elfin

(6,262 posts)
11. Still give him a pass - he is smart enough to sense exploitation
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:27 PM
Feb 2013

.... And then take advantage of it for his own interests.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
15. It is a great story and very moving, IMO. I just didn't like the oveacting meant to acheive
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:51 PM
Feb 2013

the result. I felt it could be achieved by a more focused attempt....

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
16. The one thing I don't get is the fuss over Jennifer Lawrence. She's good, but not great, IMO.
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:53 PM
Feb 2013

Not even beautiful...but pretty, like most young actresses. But I don't think she's that great an actress. I could see a lot of young actresses playing the part she played and doing it pretty well. But that's me.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
21. I think Jacki (sp?) Weaver did a terrific job as the mother...
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 09:13 AM
Feb 2013

best supporting actress level terrific, although the part may be too minor to warrant that sort of recognition.

IMO it had some truly good moments considering experiences of life many movies don't. I think it made a couple pretty good stabs at capturing the awkwardness mental illness inserts into relationships with family and friends.

Some of the ploys to keep it light and comedic--much of Chris Tucker's role--didn't work all that well for me.

I'd like to read the book to be able to see where the author was with one the movie's underlying themes--that the mentally ill navigate their days through a society that is basically full of craziness.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
14. I saw both. Yes Silver Linings is THAT good. It's up for Acad. Award Best Picture.
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:50 PM
Feb 2013

It's also nominated in several other categories. I say this as someone who is a movie buff, and who went to this movie saying, "A movie about a guy with mental issues? How entertaining could THAT be?" It was very entertaining, but dramatic, too.

It's a bunch of character studies, interwoven with witty, smart, unexpected dialogue, a little dancin', and some touching emotional scenes. They seem like a real family. I'm from the deep south and can't relate to teh northeast at all, but taht didn't come into it. I could imagine that family existing in deep south Louisiana.

King's Speech was an awesome movie. One of the best I've ever seen. Again, character studies. Expert dialogue and screenplay.

Argo...one of the best movies last year. The audience clapped when it was over. It was amazing.

All very different kinds of films, and each in its own way.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
18. Loved Argo. Great movie.
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:59 PM
Feb 2013

My point about Kings Speech is that character development and subsequent presentation is not always yelling and throwing things. Colin Firth ad the guy who played his therapist had perfect pitch together in scenes, just talking and with great litle bits that revealed a lot about their characters...it is this that is acting "Gold." We wait for this and hunger for it from actors, because this is real acting, IMO...

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
19. Oh, well, yes, I gotta agree with you there. Much more difficult acting in King's Speech.
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 10:06 PM
Feb 2013

Very few actors could have done it...either the King or the speech therapist.

Silver Linings...totally different, and I can see it being successful with different actors. Much easier to act that. But I must say that Bradley Cooper has "IT." He has that special something that makes a star, and he does happen to have some acting chops. IMO, the movie is up for the awards in large part because of him...and DeNiro. How can DeNiro do so much with such a small role? I understood the Dad completely.

Jennifer Lawrence? Meh....good, but no better than a lot of young actresses would've done. And the part didn't call for a range of acting, you're right. It's a superficial role.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
20. It's like the difference of character development that Meryl Streep or Jody Foster or
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 08:41 AM
Feb 2013

many of our revered British actresses do and the Jennifer Lawrences of the film profession.

I think Lawrence tried but her character is easily caricatured. It's tough to "play" mentally disturbed...

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