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JI7

(89,252 posts)
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 02:58 AM Feb 2013

Chad Littlefield's Family Defends Fatal Gun Range Outing

The man killed alongside a former Navy SEAL sniper at a Texas shooting range was helping his friend work with a troubled war veteran, and the outing was intended to be a "therapeutic situation," his relatives said Friday following his funeral.

Littlefield's father-in-law, Tom Montgomery, defended the notion of helping troubled war veterans through target practice. He said Kyle regularly took veterans to the shooting range, and that Littlefield often assisted in efforts to help veterans.

"As a gesture of friendship, that's the only way I can describe it, he was asked to help Chris in this endeavor," Montgomery said. "I think this was a form of relaxation, a form of therapy."

Police say the suspect, 25-year-old Eddie Ray Routh, shot Littlefield and Kyle multiple times on Feb. 2 before fleeing. He later told his sister and brother-in-law that the men "were out shooting target practice and he couldn't trust them so he killed them before they could kill him," according to a search warrant. Routh is jailed on $3 million bond.

The men could not have anticipated Routh's actions, Montgomery said, adding that Littlefield enjoyed assisting Kyle with his nonprofit, which provided in-home fitness equipment to physically and emotionally wounded veterans.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/09/chad-littlefield-american-sniper-killing_n_2652657.html

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Chad Littlefield's Family Defends Fatal Gun Range Outing (Original Post) JI7 Feb 2013 OP
paranoia and guns Skittles Feb 2013 #1
Kyle Was In Denial otohara Feb 2013 #2
Will run out of therapists. Downwinder Feb 2013 #3
In-home fitness machines or target practice... DreamGypsy Feb 2013 #4
from what i understand they were not that familiar with Routh , and it was Routh's mother JI7 Feb 2013 #5
good initiative, bad judgment. n/t actslikeacarrot Feb 2013 #6

DreamGypsy

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4. In-home fitness machines or target practice...
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 02:57 PM
Feb 2013

From the article:

The men could not have anticipated Routh's actions, Montgomery said, adding that Littlefield enjoyed assisting Kyle with his nonprofit, which provided in-home fitness equipment to physically and emotionally wounded veterans.

Kyle, 38, established the nonprofit after leaving the Navy in 2009 following four tours of duty in Iraq, where he earned a reputation as one of the military's most lethal snipers. His wartime account, "American Sniper," was a best-seller.


I admire the intentions of Misters Kyle and Littlefield, and I respect the sincerity of the feelings Mr. Montgomery has for his son-in-law. I assume Kyle and Littlefield had enough contact with Mr. Routh and understanding of his condition that, right or wrong, they choose to trust him with a firearm.

Obviously someone who is mentally unstable could kill two people by hitting them with 50lb weights, 10lb dumbbells, or an empty weight bar. A bowling ball wielded properly could cause fatal injuries. Baseball bats have been employed as murder weapons. ....

However, when someone's traumatic stress disorder has resulted from situations where death, massive injury, fear, mistrust of other humans, noise, anger, and confusion are ever present stressors, why, why, would you choose a situation that simulates part of that environment as a therapeutic outing???


Perhaps when our wars are fought as weightlifting competitions, bowling tournaments, or baseball games, instead of on fields of armed combat, we will need to avoid other means of recreational therapy. Until then, probably a good idea to think twice about a shooting expedition to help a victim of combat related PTSD and choose another activity.


JI7

(89,252 posts)
5. from what i understand they were not that familiar with Routh , and it was Routh's mother
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 05:28 PM
Feb 2013

who asked Kyle to help him based on what she had seen or heard of him.

and even in cases where this may be done as a way to help with PTSD it's never supposed to be done in the way he itwas. it has to be a much more controlled environment with professionals.

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