Likely coming from the Border Patrol that operates a fleet of five.

Not justifying it, but this is all but surprising.

The cops have already proven their incompetence and disregard for law and public safety. Handing over drones to them will turn into a disaster.

Having an armed military drone would violate posse comitatus.

If operated by FBI or law enforcement possibly not.

You couldn't fly an Army attack helicopter with an FBI agent. It's a military asset bought with money specifically allocated for their resources.

And if Obama were to bless-off on the use of anything like of a Hellfire missile (I think that's what they use) on US soil then we need to demand his impeachment. Personally, I'm of the opinion he'd never do that and I'm grateful for that.

But they can purchase assets direct from the manufacturers, or as military surplus. BATF used a tank at Waco. Tampa Police has an ex-military armed personell carrier. This shit is all over the country. Only a matter of time before local law enforcement gets their hands on armed drones.

war zones abroad and American soil??

Thanks for cutting to the reasonable nub of a whole shite-load of hysteria.

by flying in low visibilty conditions.

other than that? nothing.

...one of the news stories I read stated that after the weather calmed down, they were able to start using helicopters equipped with thermal imaging equipment.

My opinion, "drones" have now assumed the status of a "moral panic". They are "evil" regardless of how or what they are used for. Because, because, because... because why? Simply because.

And you're right, it's a 'moral panic' without regard to reality.

a whole squad of drones to find me.

i'll donate

...another example of science and technology serving the public interest!

They can be outfitted with, um, something not nice, that's what! And it's Obama's fault!

because obama says they haven't?

Blast him to bits from high above, like in other countries? If any innocent people are around when it happens and they are killed as well, will that be OK like it is in other countries?

Otherwise they are hanging out with known terrorists.....

They are using spy drones, not armed military drones.

No different than using the same technology from a manned helicopter.

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Do tell. Please let me know how they will accomplish this without winding up in the Hague.

If you are powerful enough, laws do not apply to you.

If everyone who belonged in the Hague were taken there, the place would be mighty busy lately.

BTW, I'm not all freaked about drones, just answering your question.

I get your point, though. And you are right. I just don't think it applies to the Dorner manhunt.

I am not singling out the LAPD. It could be any PD.

Bush, Cheney and many others never wound up in The Hague. In fact, how many Americans have ever wound up there? I can't think of any, can you?

Of course, the government tells us everything, so we would know.

but I would be willing to bet my house that the drones being used to look for this guy are not armed. first of all, why would they be? Let us say they have missiles on them, how would that benefit the government in any way?

And it's quite illegal for police to purchase military hardware like armed drones. If it weren't, we all know they'd have a shitload of air-to-ground missiles mounted on LAPD helicopters, and they'd be using them, lol.

Just stop with this crap.

Luckily, it's not Summer, when all the Hikers and Tourists are out and about. I wonder how many innocent civilians will be killed.

CALL CONGRESS RIGHT FUCKING NOW!

perhaps in the temple, killing him immediately

Killed when a bird dropped a tortoise on his head.

The US is not Afghanistan. We are not a foreign war zone.

we will all eventually be considered targets for drones.

Armed drones aren't coming; tanks in the streets aren't coming; nukes against red states aren't coming.

Get. A. Grip.

he is playing these fools like a damn Stradivarius.

many of my fellow Extra workers will cash in some work-related paycheck(s).

Just examining the possible positive side of it not to depress completely...

It's practically writing itself.

ok

LL Cool J would be good too.

I think he has another vehicle and a hideout and is biding his time.

I decided to look up the word terror and when I googled terror definition this came up

Noun
1.Extreme fear: "people fled in terror"; "a terror of darkness".
2.The use of such fear to intimidate people, esp. for political reasons: "weapons of terror".

Synonyms
horror - dread - fright - fear - panic - dismay - scare


Dorner is causing people terror, horror, dread, fright, fear, panic, dismay, scare.
A person who causes terror is a terrorist.
Matters little if its one person or a group.

Murder is murder.

Why people idolized Bonnie and Clyde, Al Capone and any criminal I don't know.

I usually back minorities who are victims or victiminzed.
HOWEVER, i don't see anything in the last few days to indicate Mr. Dorner is a victim.

He is victimizing others.
In this story, Dorner is Zimmerman and the people he killed are Mr. Martin.
I don't see any difference.

As for the collateral damage, well, yeah, blame the victims is always a good tactic.
Everyone who was hurt is a direct cause/effect from Mr. Dorner.

All the other issues may be 100% true. But 100% true is, he is a killer of human beings.

Question-
Did Frank Serpico kill cops to stop corruption?
If Mr. Dorner had these allegations, why didn't he go to someone higher.

Customs and Border Patrol spokesman Ralph DeSio who is quoted as saying the agency is on the "forefront of domestic use of drones by law enforcement," while declining to elaborate further.

Like the government's highly controversial foreign program of hunter-killer drones, it is becoming apparent that the DHS drone operations also deserve urgent public and congressional scrutiny. But not so much because national or international laws are being violated, US citizens targeted, or anyone is being hunted down and killed by these drones - at least thus far. Mostly the DHS drone program needs to be subjected to full transparency and accountability because it's been such a bust - an enormous waste of money.

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This report, while limited to the shocking management failures of CBP, hints at the more serious underlying problems, like the lack of strategic directions and the dubious achievements of the drone operations of agency's Office of Air and Marine (OAM).

Predators Quickly Adapted for Border Security

The homeland security drone program, directed by a retired Air Force Maj. Gen. Michael Kostelnik (who played a key role in developing the armed Predator drone used for so-called "hunter-killer" missions overseas, deploys a fleet of highly expensive Predators on the nation's borders. The unarmed Predators, produced for border duty by General Atomics, cost $18.5 million to $20.5 million apiece, not counting the hundreds of millions of dollars in contracts for General Atomics to operate and maintain the homeland drones.

Flush with billions of dollars in post-9/11 funding for "border security," DHS hurriedly launched the campaign to patrol the borders - north and south - with these Predators. In the rush to secure the homeland, DHS trampled over due-diligence standards to speed through orders for the drones, pilots and crews supplied by General Atomics.

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CBP boasted in December 20111 that drone operations contributed to 7,500 apprehensions of illegal border crossers and 46,600 pounds of marijuana.

The 7,500 "criminal aliens" that the Border Patrol detained are small potatoes when compared to CBP's overall number of detentions since 2005 - 5.7 million immigrants, including the 327,000 detained in 2011. Expressed as a percentage, this amounts to only .001 percent of those detained during that period.

While categorized by CBP as "dangerous people" because they have crossed the border illegally, mostly they are simply unauthorized immigrants, although a small number are marijuana backpackers.

To give some perspective to the drug haul attributed to UAV surveillance over six years - 46,600 pounds of marijuana - CBP on average seizes 3,500 pounds of marijuana every day in Arizona, making a seizure every 1.7 hours. Drones had a role in the seizure of less than one percent of the Border Patrol's total marijuana in the past six years - only .003 percent to be precise.
http://truth-out.org/news/item/14239-predator-drones-stalk-us-borders-without-budget-or-strategy

but it would be interesting if he shot down one of the drones.