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So if two of my family members were killed in LA would the LA Police extend the same effort? (Original Post) Logical Feb 2013 OP
Probably not bluestateguy Feb 2013 #1
Of course they would Duer 157099 Feb 2013 #2
:-) Good one! Logical Feb 2013 #6
I'd guess it would depend. Are they wealthy, famous, or at least white? Ian David Feb 2013 #3
Other than the manifesto being aimed at the LAPD brass GObamaGO Feb 2013 #4
they wouldn't be doing what they are if he had no left behind a manifesto JI7 Feb 2013 #5
You're not wrong. LAPD looks out for themselves. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #7
Here is the newest one I have come across Angry Dragon Feb 2013 #10
Nope. Ex resident of LA. They will take a report and Cleita Feb 2013 #8
if they reacted that way for everybody Enrique Feb 2013 #9
LOL, perfect! n-t Logical Feb 2013 #14
If It Weren't So Serious It Would Be Comical - Who Trains them to Identify & Shoot? dballance Feb 2013 #11
If the killer wrote a rambling manifesto taunting the world Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #12
Are you kidding? One thing I do know Warpy Feb 2013 #13
No, they would not. russspeakeasy Feb 2013 #15
Definitely wouldn't be a $1Million ransom. I just saw a $12,000 REWARD poster here in Manhattan JaneyVee Feb 2013 #16

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
1. Probably not
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 05:51 PM
Feb 2013

But if the killer vowed publicly to kill again (like the Son of Sam in 1977) then I suspect they would.

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
2. Of course they would
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 05:52 PM
Feb 2013

So long as at least one of those two were related to someone high up in LAPD. Silly.

Asymmetrical indeed.

Ian David

(69,059 posts)
3. I'd guess it would depend. Are they wealthy, famous, or at least white?
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 05:53 PM
Feb 2013

Attractive blond female victims make for great television, so the police would probably look for who ever killed them, in that case.

GObamaGO

(665 posts)
4. Other than the manifesto being aimed at the LAPD brass
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 05:55 PM
Feb 2013

The actual murders did not even occur in the Los Angeles jurisdiction. Seems kind of shitty of them to pretty much upend the Irvine PD's authority in this matter to "steal the show".

JI7

(89,251 posts)
5. they wouldn't be doing what they are if he had no left behind a manifesto
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 05:55 PM
Feb 2013

if someone else did the same they would do the same thing.

they only started doing what they did when they found the manifesto . not as soon as the daughter of a cop was killed.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
7. You're not wrong. LAPD looks out for themselves.
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 05:58 PM
Feb 2013

You have to remember, they didn't hesitate to shoot up the vehicle that had those two women in it. They are out for vengeance. If they catch him, they WILL kill him, even if he's not armed.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
8. Nope. Ex resident of LA. They will take a report and
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 05:59 PM
Feb 2013

you probably will not hear back from them every again.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
9. if they reacted that way for everybody
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 06:01 PM
Feb 2013

then every car in L.A. would have been destroyed in hail of gunfire.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
11. If It Weren't So Serious It Would Be Comical - Who Trains them to Identify & Shoot?
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 06:33 PM
Feb 2013

So far two different police departments in CA have unloaded a hail of bullets into trucks. The LAPD unloaded at least 47 bullets into a truck that was not the same make/model/color as Dorner's truck and had two Latinas in it who were decidedly not large, beefy, muscular, African-American men. They managed to hit both of them, one of them twice the other once. Hospitalizing one.

Most recently Torrence police slammed a cruiser into the back of a truck that was not the same make/model/color as Dorner's and unleashed a hail of bullets into the truck. The truck's only occupant, the driver, was a caucasian man who is also decidedly not a large, beefy, muscular, African-American. Oh, and the guy in the truck was going surfing. So presumably there was a surf-board visible to police. That's not one of the weapons Dorner is alleged to be carrying. No bullet count was reported in this incident. But I'd be willing several clips were emptied.

But hey, they improved over the LAPD - at least it was a male they shot at. Of course they didn't hit him with any bullets.

So it begs the question. Who is training these people to identify a suspect before committing to the use of lethal force since, in both cases, they were so far off the mark they should be disciplined for reckless use of their power and weapons? Speaking of being on the mark. Who the heck is training them to shoot? Two out of forty-seven bullets fired hit the intended, but wrong, targets in the first case. A whopping 6% hit rate. Now I don't expect all of the bullets to make contact but I'd hope these trained professionals could do better than 6%. Fortunately for the women in the truck they didn't.

In the second case, no bullets hit the intended target. The driver of that truck lucked out - and the Torrence police lucked out by not killing an innocent citizen due to their 0% hit rate.

I think many of us believe the LAPD officers (I'm not saying this is a policy supported by the LAPD) want to see Dorner brought back to LA in a body bag not in hand-cuffs. I believe they don't want him to have a trial that will give him a public forum or the possibility of interviews by the major networks. This is causing them to endanger the people they're sworn to protect.

I know this last sentence it going to get me flamed but here it is anyway. It's starting to look like, to me, that the National Guard should be sent in to replace or supervise the local police in the hunt. They don't have the same sort of skin in the game as the LAPD and, apparently, the suburban police departments like Torrence do.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
12. If the killer wrote a rambling manifesto taunting the world
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 06:35 PM
Feb 2013

and displayed a will to run AND fight?

Yes, they would extend the same effort, as would any police force.

Warpy

(111,270 posts)
13. Are you kidding? One thing I do know
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 06:37 PM
Feb 2013

is that if I had a small pickup truck, I'd leave it parked and take the bus until this is all over.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
16. Definitely wouldn't be a $1Million ransom. I just saw a $12,000 REWARD poster here in Manhattan
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 07:19 PM
Feb 2013

for a guy that killed 3 people in 2006.

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