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monmouth3

(3,871 posts) Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:19 AM Feb 2013

Can you imagine the political chaos at the Vatican about now?

I often think back to The Godfather, Part 3 I think. Those guys are vicious and I doubt the story line was completely made up. I think the Pope has been forced to resign, the backlash of the pedophilia is enormous and he is not handling it well. Perhaps there is some dementia but this old man is tired and is not making intelligent decisions. I'm also suspecting the Vatican would like attention turned to getting a new Pope, a distraction from the pedophilia news. I also suspect the next Pope will be Italian (not Berlusconi...LOL)...

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Can you imagine the political chaos at the Vatican about now? (Original Post) monmouth3 Feb 2013 OP

He holds the dark secrets of the church in his possession. All of them. JaneyVee Feb 2013 #1

The political machinations in the Vatican make Dems and Repubs look like schoolboys. It is a very monmouth3 Feb 2013 #3

Weren't some popes assassinated eons ago in power plays? n/t RKP5637 Feb 2013 #5

Absolutely. Read about the Medici era. Made for the movies for sure..n/t monmouth3 Feb 2013 #6

Thanks! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2013 #9

Maybe not just eons ago. Jackpine Radical Feb 2013 #15

Cough cough. Maybe just decades ago.... yardwork Feb 2013 #16

Sometimes they dished it out too RZM Feb 2013 #20

He was the one person who held all the files of the pedophiles, BEFORE he was elected. n/t Ninga Feb 2013 #2

I can imagine it -but mostly like a benny hill sketch with interesting hats. el_bryanto Feb 2013 #4

"I have had to recognize my incapacity to adequately fulfill the ministry entrusted to me." Renew Deal Feb 2013 #7

I'm speculating a "sit-down" after dinner last evening...n/t monmouth3 Feb 2013 #8

Protocol offices around the world want to know "What is the title of a zombie pope?" HereSince1628 Feb 2013 #10

Lame Duck Pope? His Retired Holiness? FSogol Feb 2013 #14

Prior Pope. randome Feb 2013 #18

former popeliness? HereSince1628 Feb 2013 #23

His Holiness....the Pooped!!! (Impossible to resist...) nt MADem Feb 2013 #28

Wonder what the pension plan is like? MADem Feb 2013 #11

Much better than mine, I would assume! Kath1 Feb 2013 #12

I'm wondering where they'll stash him--will he go to some monastery in Germany? MADem Feb 2013 #19

That would be my guess. Kath1 Feb 2013 #22

Arinze is already 80 starroute Feb 2013 #26

Yeah, unload him straight off. There is a guy from Ghana in the running, and a Brazilian, too. nt MADem Feb 2013 #29

You've hit some nails on the head monmouth3 Auntie Bush Feb 2013 #13

Haha, thanks. monmouth3 Feb 2013 #17

Hoiw long has the pedophile thing been going on? B2G Feb 2013 #21

I agree Johonny Feb 2013 #25

Can't wait PasadenaTrudy Feb 2013 #24

It does my black, atheist heart good to chortle at the misfortunes uriel1972 Feb 2013 #27

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)

1. He holds the dark secrets of the church in his possession. All of them.

Reply to monmouth3 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:22 AM

Feb 2013

Maybe it finally became too much to bare any longer?

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)

3. The political machinations in the Vatican make Dems and Repubs look like schoolboys. It is a very

Reply to JaneyVee (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:26 AM

Feb 2013

vicious and nasty process. I doubt it will take long in naming a new Pope. Most likely it has already been decided. Again, I'm just speculating but I've been Catholic for too long..LOL..

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)

5. Weren't some popes assassinated eons ago in power plays? n/t

Reply to monmouth3 (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:30 AM

Feb 2013

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)

6. Absolutely. Read about the Medici era. Made for the movies for sure..n/t

Reply to RKP5637 (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:31 AM

Feb 2013

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)

9. Thanks! n/t

Reply to monmouth3 (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:35 AM

Feb 2013

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)

15. Maybe not just eons ago.

Reply to RKP5637 (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 12:10 PM

Feb 2013

yardwork

(61,690 posts)

16. Cough cough. Maybe just decades ago....

Reply to Jackpine Radical (Reply #15)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 12:11 PM

Feb 2013

RZM

(8,556 posts)

20. Sometimes they dished it out too

Reply to RKP5637 (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 12:28 PM

Feb 2013

On their rivals within the church and in Italian politics/family wars.

Ninga

(8,276 posts)

2. He was the one person who held all the files of the pedophiles, BEFORE he was elected. n/t

Reply to monmouth3 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:25 AM

Feb 2013

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)

4. I can imagine it -but mostly like a benny hill sketch with interesting hats.

Reply to monmouth3 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:29 AM

Feb 2013

I guess that's probably not what it's actually like.

Bryant

Renew Deal

(81,868 posts)

7. "I have had to recognize my incapacity to adequately fulfill the ministry entrusted to me."

Reply to monmouth3 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:32 AM

Feb 2013

Who helped him realize this and when did the realization take place?

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)

8. I'm speculating a "sit-down" after dinner last evening...n/t

Reply to Renew Deal (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:33 AM

Feb 2013

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)

10. Protocol offices around the world want to know "What is the title of a zombie pope?"

Reply to monmouth3 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:36 AM

Feb 2013

It's been 'deceased' for about 600 years. This one is still walking.

FSogol

(45,513 posts)

14. Lame Duck Pope? His Retired Holiness?

Reply to HereSince1628 (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 12:08 PM

Feb 2013

randome

(34,845 posts)

18. Prior Pope.

Reply to FSogol (Reply #14)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 12:13 PM

Feb 2013

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)

23. former popeliness?

Reply to FSogol (Reply #14)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 12:57 PM

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MADem

(135,425 posts)

28. His Holiness....the Pooped!!! (Impossible to resist...) nt

Reply to HereSince1628 (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:11 PM

Feb 2013

MADem

(135,425 posts)

11. Wonder what the pension plan is like?

Reply to monmouth3 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:36 AM

Feb 2013

The Canadians are hoping the next one will be from their neck o'the woods...!

Edit to add Canadian details --

The 85-year-old German-born Pope will officially step down on Feb. 28, and a replacement will chosen by a conclave by the end of March. Among his possible successors are Cardinal Angelo Scola, Cardinal Christoph Schoenborn, and Canadian Cardinal Marc Ouellet.
Ouellet, previously the archbishop of Quebec and currently the head of the Vatican’s office for bishops, is currently considered the best bet to replace Benedict.
Online betting site Paddy Power has Ouellet at 5/2 odds to become the next Pope. Cardinal Francis Arinze, of Nigeria, is the potential successor considered next more likely to get the promotion, at 3/1 odds.
Yeah, you read that right. You can gamble on who will become the next Pope.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/pope-benedict-xvi-retires-canadian-replace-him-140320686.html

Kath1

(4,309 posts)

12. Much better than mine, I would assume!

Reply to MADem (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 11:08 AM

Feb 2013

The Vatican has a lot of problems. One of them is that most American Catholics, especially women, support such outrageous positions as universal health care under the Obama plan, gay rights, and - OMG! - allowing females to become priests.

MADem

(135,425 posts)

19. I'm wondering where they'll stash him--will he go to some monastery in Germany?

Reply to Kath1 (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 12:26 PM

Feb 2013

They can't really move him down the hall to the guest room, or shove him in the summer house, unless he has gotten a terminal diagnosis and knows he's on a short leash.

Most American Catholics are the "cafeteria" variety. That's obvious based on family size. Sixty years ago, a "small" Catholic family was five or six kids. Nowadays, a large family is three or four. It ain't rocket science, and I doubt that families are "more disciplined" or have a better grasp of the rhythm method than they did back in the dark ages.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)

22. That would be my guess.

Reply to MADem (Reply #19)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 12:47 PM

Feb 2013

And, yes, American Catholics have been ignoring the Vatican on contraception for a long time and the majority of Catholic women support reproductive healthcare services.

starroute

(12,977 posts)

26. Arinze is already 80

Reply to MADem (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 02:45 PM

Feb 2013

After Benedict, I can't see them going with another short-termer.

MADem

(135,425 posts)

29. Yeah, unload him straight off. There is a guy from Ghana in the running, and a Brazilian, too. nt

Reply to starroute (Reply #26)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:12 PM

Feb 2013

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)

13. You've hit some nails on the head monmouth3

Reply to monmouth3 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 12:00 PM

Feb 2013

Ouch! Ouch! Ouch! Ouch!

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)

17. Haha, thanks.

Reply to Auntie Bush (Reply #13)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 12:12 PM

Feb 2013

B2G

(9,766 posts)

21. Hoiw long has the pedophile thing been going on?

Reply to monmouth3 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 12:30 PM

Feb 2013

Years, no? So why resign *now*?

Dude's 86. If he can't handle it, it's best to step down. Popeing is hard work.

Johonny

(20,872 posts)

25. I agree

Reply to B2G (Reply #21)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 01:24 PM

Feb 2013

I doubt a scandal that happened long before he was in office has anything to do with it. It was always assumed he was going to be a short term pope due to his age.

PasadenaTrudy

(3,998 posts)

24. Can't wait

Reply to monmouth3 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 01:03 PM

Feb 2013

to watch Bill Maher this week, and to see what he tweets!

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)

27. It does my black, atheist heart good to chortle at the misfortunes

Reply to monmouth3 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 02:49 PM

Feb 2013

of one of the One True Churches... chortle, chortle, chortle.

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