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The poll, published Wednesday, found that while Americans overall tend to oppose socialism by a strong margin -- 60 percent say they have a negative view of it, versus just 31 percent who say they have a positive view -- socialism has more fans than opponents among the 18-29 crowd. Forty-nine percent of people in that age bracket say they have a positive view of socialism; only 43 percent say they have a negative view.
And while those numbers aren't very far apart, it's noteworthy that they were reversed just 20 months ago, when Pew conducted a similar poll. In that survey, published May 2010, 43 percent of people age 18-29 said they had a positive view of socialism, and 49 percent said their opinion was negative.
It's not clear why young people have evidently begun to change their thinking on socialism. In the past several years, the poor economy has had any number of effects on young adults -- keeping them at home with their parents, making it difficult for them to get jobs, and likely depressing their earning potential for years to come -- that might have dampened enthusiasm for the free market among this crowd.
Indeed, the Pew poll also found that just 46 percent of people age 18-29 have positive views of capitalism, and 47 percent have negative views -- making this the only age group where support for socialism outweighs support for capitalism.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/29/young-people-socialism_n_1175218.html
Drale
(7,932 posts)O wait no its really not. As one of those Young People I see how capitalism has failed us and put the power in the hands of a small number of old rich white guys who could care less about anyone but themselves. They would through their own children, let alone the children of the poor under the bus if it made them another dollar. There is a reckoning coming and time is on the Young Peoples side because old people die, its what they do and once your dead that money or power won't help you were they are going.
freethought
(2,457 posts)Views on the economy are set pretty early, usually around college age. So now we have almost 5-6 years worth of college grads and non-college grads who can't find work and are watching the obscene amounts of wealth being funnelled to the very top. Once that view is set, it's extremely difficult to change. People who were coming of age during the Great Depression had a similar view.
burnsei sensei
(1,820 posts)Of course it's losing ground in the integrity market. It never had much to begin with.
I'm hoping that succeeding generations agree that burdens are meant to be shared, not shouldered by individuals.
The only burden an individual should be forced to carry is the one of his individuality, creativity, and a bundle of other choices made by him or her alone.
Do not confound "employment" with perfect mental health and altruism. To be employed is not to be altruistic or even morally decent.
To do volunteer work is both.
To care about one's neighbors is both.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)Hopefully, we can evolve via the younger generation.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)from the moment of birth? When people are asked to compare Socialist and capitalist ideas without identifying labels, they choose the socialist far more often.
Hell, most Americans can't even define Socialism.
napoleon_in_rags
(3,991 posts)Really, socialism hasn't been much of a force in the world in recent years, capitalism is so widespread. And the only people really taking about it (its not really the left in the US) are on the right.
Honestly, I wonder what the political power of Fox-news blow-back is. Basically, you have somebody like Beck, and he's going off about Obama's birth certificate, socialism, and how global warming is false. Then you see these mega-storms, Obama shows his birth certificate and the rest. So Beck's critique of the this socialism thing, which is really in many ways a non-force in the world, actually serves to validate it by association, to reanimate it as a force in the world. It maybe another case of that "be careful what you focus on" thing... For the right.
union_maid
(3,502 posts)At least many of us do, and young people have no reason to hold capitalism in high esteem. Maybe we'll get to that social democracy after all. Not in my lifetime, but maybe in my son's. I hope so.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)corkhead
(6,119 posts)Kids are no longer being brainwashed into hating socialism before they know what it is.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)than younger people have seen. I'm not surprised people are reacting against the radical free market version of capitalism that's been practiced the past few decades.
burrowowl
(17,642 posts)Old Socialist's heart!
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)"A man who is not a communist at the age of twenty is a fool. Any man who is still communist at the age of thirty is an even bigger one." George Bernard Shaw
MattSh
(3,714 posts)You don't want to make Professor Droney mad. You wouldn't like him when he's mad.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022350703
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)Medicare etc and Gov help with storms etc. But I don't think they approve of the gov. owning all oil co. and corporations and businesses...like real socialistic countries. When they see the disparity in income now days...they turn against capitalism and realize it can make life pretty unfair for many people. I guess we need a little of each type of government.
JHB
(37,161 posts)Decades of conservative (and "centrist" drum pounding has narrowed the definition of "capitalism" to mean only the current predatory/dog-eat-dog/unregulated version, excluding versions that we had here from the New Deal up to Reagan, and in Europe under systems we helped set up to avoid Soviet influence.
Anything that works in favor of the vast majority of people, anything that slows down unlimited buckraking from the top -- all that has been redefined as "socialism".
When you define reasonable policies that need some updating but which worked as "socialism", lo and behold younger people like "socialism". The oldest of them were toddlers when the Soviet Union collapsed. The association of the word with Stalinist police states just isn't there.
Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)but on the contrary, it is our conditions that determine our consciousness.
(paraphrased)
--K.M.
And one more for good measure:
Capital is dead labor, which, vampire-like, lives only by sucking living labor, and lives the more, the more labor it sucks. --K.M.
pampango
(24,692 posts)Democrats..."
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)Most of Western Europe has been described as Socialist to one level or another, but aren't they also market economies?
Bryant
JHB
(37,161 posts)..."the Free World".