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TheOther95Percent

(1,035 posts)
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 04:46 PM Feb 2013

The Seal Who Killed Bin Laden is Screwed - No Pension - No Health Insurance

Retiring three years shy of twenty years means no pension and no insurance and ill-equipped for a civilian job.

It's a lengthy and interesting read.


http://www.esquire.com/features/man-who-shot-osama-bin-laden-0313-3


But it was his official separation from the Navy that convinced the Shooter that he should get his story down somewhere, both for history and for a potential "greater good," to both humanize his warrior friends as something more complex than Jason Bourne cartoon superheroes, and call attention to what retiring SEALs don't get in their complex bargain with their country.

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The Seal Who Killed Bin Laden is Screwed - No Pension - No Health Insurance (Original Post) TheOther95Percent Feb 2013 OP
Discussed here: elleng Feb 2013 #1
Nobody else gets military pension and medical insurance if they leave after 17 years. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #2
Military pensions are unlike civilian pensions TheOther95Percent Feb 2013 #3
I am vested after ten years hfojvt Feb 2013 #4
I vested after 5 years TheOther95Percent Feb 2013 #6
It would have made more sense to have his disabilities assessed while he was in pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #5
 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
2. Nobody else gets military pension and medical insurance if they leave after 17 years.
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 05:02 PM
Feb 2013

What makes him so special? SEALs are bound by the same employment regulations as the rest of the military.

TheOther95Percent

(1,035 posts)
3. Military pensions are unlike civilian pensions
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 05:10 PM
Feb 2013

It takes 20 years to vest unlike in the civilian world where pensions vest and accrue in a shorter time frame. The article also discusses this Seal's rather unique circumstances. His years of training have taken a toll on his body and he has yet to hear about a disability pension.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
4. I am vested after ten years
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 05:25 PM
Feb 2013

but if I started working at age 25, I could not retire at 35 and collect anything until I was at least 55. He seems to have screwed himself by quitting a mere 3 years before he could retire with full benefits.

I am curious about his disability. Two years ago he was part of an elite fighting force. Now he is disabled? What happened?

Where I live there are lots of young retired officers with full pensions. Not only do they retire before the age of 45, but after they retire, they have connections to get good paying jobs with military contractors.

Makes it kind of impossible for ME to get a job in this town with a military base to the north.

Truthfully, I kinda regret not joining the military right out of high school. I could have been a supply clerk or something, and retired at 38 and enjoyed my retirement these last 12 years.

TheOther95Percent

(1,035 posts)
6. I vested after 5 years
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 05:55 PM
Feb 2013

I hit 30 years next year and, if I went to another job, can take the whole thing with me.

The Seal in question has physical limitations from nearly non-stop training and deployment; but I think it's the pyschological toll on him that's the issue. On one mission he shot two young parents - I think the military parlance is collateral damage - but those killings left him despondent and suicidal.

A relative's in-law returned from his second deployment to Afghanistan with a similar experience and has not been the same. It has been a struggle to get him the care he needs. There's a graphic in the article that shows the backlog of disability claims. We ask people to support the troops but what exactly constitutes support? Yellow ribbons and flag waving?

The consequences of these endless wars will be with us for decades. This Seal is just a representation of those consequences.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
5. It would have made more sense to have his disabilities assessed while he was in
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 05:29 PM
Feb 2013

He might have qualified for a full or partial disability retirement from the Navy. And because, unlike VA disability, military disability comp is related to base pay, at his pay grade he would get a higher benefit than he would from the VA for the same percentage rating.

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