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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCan someone answer a simple question about Dorner for me?
Why, if the LAPD is so desperate to neutralize this threat to their existence...why, if he is the greatest threat to the LAPD and its culture of corruption since, oh, A SHITLOAD OF BOOKS AND A FEW MOVIES AND GENERAL PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE, hasn't Dorner simply dropped a massive dossier off at FBI and DOJ headquarters, made a few long phone calls, a few videos loaded with names and evidence (psst - most phones can even do it in HD, for the love of Mike), and otherwise set out on a path to publicly name and shame the entire force?
He wrote A FUCKING MANIFESTO WITH AS MANY REFERENCES TO CHARLIE SHEEN AND MIA FARROW AS REFERENCES TO ACTIONABLE WRONGDOING BY SPECIFIC MEMBERS OF LAPD. If you had info that could bring down a criminal institution and you were writing the words the world would remember you by, would you waste five goddamned fucking seconds writing, "Its kind of sad I wont be around to view and enjoy The Hangover III"??????
Here's what I think: the whole LAPD-as-desperate-to-silence-Dorner is a stupid canard from weak minds bored with what is currently in cinemas. The dashing hero whom so many would love to picture narrowly eluding cops with scads of sensitive documents on thumb drives is really nothing more than a psychotic cowardly fucking murderer sad that he might not get to see a third helping of dick and fart jokes.
YouTube, Reddit, Tumblr, Blogspot, Google+, Facebook, Twitter: all places where a fugitive with information can expose anyone in the world without censorship. What, is Wikileaks too busy to take a call from Dorner? Kos not taking any new registrants? Is the ACLU suddenly DesiLu?
Face it, folks, the guy is pretty much what most people in SoCal are: narcissistic, celebrity-obsessed, vain, self-righteous, delusional, Facebook-centric, and hanging out at Big Bear. The only difference is that instead of kicking the tires at Fletcher Jones for fun, Dorner KILLS people. He has nothing to say, or he'd be saying it.
("Hi, Farrar, Straus, and Giroux? My name is, um, Dristopher Corner. I'm calling from a secure line. I have an expose of the LAPD that will blow the doors off the place. I expose corruption, racism, brutality, the whole nine yards. It's huge. I'm looking for a deal. I have a 20-page treatment already, with PLENTY of refs to celebs - real Q-list stuff....oh, you have a editor just for exposes on the LAPD? Sure, I'll hold."
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)Could you please restate it in a short sentence?
Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)...ah...sorry...
Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)The LAPD has many problems that should be looked into. The two opinions can exist.
GObamaGO
(665 posts)and that the LAPD is corrupt to its core are not mutually exclusive ideas.
Those ideas having been expressed, I am far more afraid of law enforcement harming me while he is at large and I am out and about, than I am of him harming me.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)davidn3600
(6,342 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)The notion that he has some smoking gun testimony to give is ludicrous.
Dorner's allegations are on record in his Board of Rights proceedings, his subsequent appeal, his FB screed, and whatever was on the disc he sent to Anderson Cooper (likely a rehash).
If I understand it right, the idea is that he went through his BoR withholding secrets that could bolster his case and then waited more years to finally spew 11,000 words on the subject--but still withheld secrets?
I think we're in CT territory here.
The overkill incidents with LAPD cops are cited as an attempt to silence him "for what he knows." Like cops never reacted like that toward cop-killers.
dkf
(37,305 posts)He has one case, where he tackled the schizophrenic Gettler, Evans tased him and the only dispute is if there was one, three, or no kicks in addition.
Make7
(8,543 posts)
[div class="excerpt" style="border:1px solid #bfbfbf; border radius:.4615em;"]Face it, folks, the guy is pretty much what most people in SoCal are: narcissistic, celebrity-obsessed, vain, self-righteous, delusional, Facebook-centric, and hanging out at Big Bear.
I didn't realize most people in Southern California are like that. What an eye opener!
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)From a Valley Boy well before they they came up with those terms.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)But, yeah, he's like the guys storing ammo & dried food and waiting for the SHTF, RAHOWA, whatever crusade they believe gives them an excuse to kill people and feel justified about it.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)... delusional, Facebook-centric, and hanging out at Big Bear"?
Why, when I get off the slopes I've a mind to come over and have one of my employees thrash the person who said that!
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)As long as it didn't say "all", that's fine.
I met someone in Culver City a couole of years ago who was okay.
He might have moved, though.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Culver City just isn't the same without him. R.I.P.
Anyhoo...
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)You're not helping your case by demonstrating your knowledge that there is actually a word for a person who does that.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)You're on shaky ground here, cuz. I'm beginning to re-think our friendship.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)GObamaGO
(665 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)You guys are hilarious
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)rightsideout
(978 posts)lame54
(35,324 posts)By the way - this is also rhetorical
you don't have to answer it
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Other than what you said about hanging out in Big Bear, your opinion is SPOT ON. Anyone with half a brain knows LAPD's history and Murderin' Christopher had five years to tell the world.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)I suspect you rely too heavily on your television for information about the world.
flamingdem
(39,328 posts)Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)Go walk around the Beverly Center, South Coast Plaza, Calabasas, or the Grove,
and get back to me.
Johonny
(20,889 posts)The climate of the Grove and South Coast Plaza are totally different.
My finding in life are people where ever I lived are about as vain, self-centered and interested in celebrities. It is just their taste in fashion and who they consider a celebrity that is different. To think the people of SoCal are some how magically different than anywhere else is laughably naive. Sorry but it is true. I've been in third world villages seeing women as obsessed with fashion and make-up as the would be starlets of Hollywood. The world and its people simple are not so different as we pretend they are.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)Both perfectly nice places with decent people.
GObamaGO
(665 posts)bernynhel
(63 posts)Me thinks it so.
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)Seriously. He knocks "Anonymous" but they don't kill people in cold blood, do they, now? I have to agree with some of his screed on popular entertainers. He's obviously up on menial celebrity gossip. OMG, did I just out myself as a Dorner supporter?
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)just like all the nasty posts about the South
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)we often call SoCal "the South". Truth.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)well nothing....we don't really think or talk about them
GObamaGO
(665 posts)Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)same ol, same ol.
Got anything new?
RandiFan1290
(6,245 posts)EOTE
(13,409 posts)Shooting 90 bullets into random trucks is just SOP for the LAPD. And pulling people over, letting them go and then ramming their vehicle and shooting them is SOP too. Nah, the LAPD are TOTALLY cool, they're just following the book on this case. Every single person in the LA area is on edge because they DON'T believe a member of the LAPD is going to shoot them without a moment's notice. Are you for real?
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)So you're saying we're all pretty much Chris Dorners here in SoCal?
zappaman
(20,606 posts)I did not know Dorner and I had so much in common!
Well, besides me not being a murderous fucking lunatic...
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Maybe that's why the LAPD is pumping loads of bullets into innocent people's trucks.
Maybe those women delivering newspapers weren't so innocent after all, at least according to the OP.