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HipChick

(25,485 posts)
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 09:16 PM Feb 2013

Something stinks in LAPD, 2nd Ex-LAPD Officer releases manifesto...



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/12/joe-jones-manifesto-christopher-dorner_n_2670513.html#comments

former LAPD officer has written a manifesto sympathizing with Christopher Dorner, the fugitive ex-LA cop who has declared "war" on the LAPD.

"The 1st thing I would say to [Dorner] is, I feel your pains!," Joe Jones wrote in his manifesto, circulated Tuesday by hacker group Anonymous and posted to Jones' Facebook. "But you are going about this the wrong way. To take innocent lives could never be the answer to anything. I say this as a Man who experienced the same pain, betrayal, anger, suffering, litigation and agony that you did in many ways."

Jones, 48, was a patrol officer for nine years, retired in 1998 and now has an event-planning company in LA, the LA Weekly reports. It appears that Jones' Facebook may have been disabled hours after posting his manifesto (see full manifesto below).

He expressed his condolences for Dorner's victims as well as victims of "the injustices of Police Corruption, Scandal, Lies, Deception and Brutality."

Jones said he himself has been a victim of such corruption. "I need you to first assume that I would not surface 16 years later with lies about a situation that has me with PTSD to this very day," he wrote. "The pain forces me to speak as I have yet to shake the Ill's of my experience as an LAPD Officer."

Jones' accounts of personally being wrong by the LAPD include:

1) I had my home viciously attacked by a gunman with my family and myself inside the house. No arrests were made and my family and I Received very little support.
2) I had my Civil Rights violated on several occasions. I was falsely arrested at gunpoint by the Sheriffs as an Officer who ID'd himself and was conspired against by both LAPD and the Sheriffs when my Civil case went to Trial.
3) I was falsely accused on more than one occasion and simply placed in a position that the trust was so compromised that I could no longer wear the Uniform. Also know there were many more episodes. All of these issues are well documented

http://www.scribd.com/doc/125027919/Joe-Jones-Manifesto

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Something stinks in LAPD, 2nd Ex-LAPD Officer releases manifesto... (Original Post) HipChick Feb 2013 OP
Shhh...inconvenient nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #1
I got 40mins left.. HipChick Feb 2013 #3
Careful now... Melinda Feb 2013 #2
Ouch!... HipChick Feb 2013 #4
Indeed. Harumph!! Melinda Feb 2013 #5
The new bully code word is "apologist". nm rhett o rick Feb 2013 #10
I wonder how many other ex-officers have similar complaints? nc4bo Feb 2013 #6
Crossing the Blue line HipChick Feb 2013 #8
Where is the "manifesto" part? sufrommich Feb 2013 #7
A decent plea to officers of the LAPD in point 5 of the manifesto, however edgineered Feb 2013 #9
a couple decades ago i was accidentally witness to lapd brutality xiamiam Feb 2013 #11
An unfortunate episode to have to be a witness to, made strikingly less comfortable living under edgineered Feb 2013 #13
LAPD is severely fucked up and corrupt. Has been as long as I've been alive. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #12

Melinda

(5,465 posts)
2. Careful now...
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 09:19 PM
Feb 2013

You'll probably be accused of sympathizing with (supporting!) Dorner in 1, 2, 3....

Hang tight!

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
6. I wonder how many other ex-officers have similar complaints?
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 09:23 PM
Feb 2013

I wonder how many current or former officers are afraid of speaking up about it?



sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
7. Where is the "manifesto" part?
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 09:25 PM
Feb 2013

I see a public letter written by a cop,nothing more. Is "manifesto" the new misused buzz word?

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
9. A decent plea to officers of the LAPD in point 5 of the manifesto, however
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 09:35 PM
Feb 2013

there is no reasoning with people of that mindset. They are the ones, the ones who are convinced, that they are doing RIGHT for people, people like themselves, and its people like themselves who see the truth and must be protected. Anyone in disagreement supports the very ills of our society.

Their minds are closed to the truth. To change them we must change who leads them. We do that with our votes, with our letters to the editor, to our councilmen and police chiefs, and on up the line. We as citizens have been far too inactive in our responsibilities to ourselves and our neighbors. As individuals we have, in the most part, failed to express ourselves in the ways needed to prevent systems like this. The signs have been on the wall for a long time - A Clockwork Orange, 1984, even Apocalypse Now expressed the power to remove those whose views differ from being in power.

xiamiam

(4,906 posts)
11. a couple decades ago i was accidentally witness to lapd brutality
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 11:31 PM
Feb 2013

then, by an even stranger set of circumstances, they found out and a couple detectives showed up at my door, and asked me to come to the station to be interviewed... the things i saw were questioned and they attempted to justify what i saw... a couple dozen police officers gathered around while a few young men had the shit kicked out of them...handcuffed, hogtied, and beaten. Eventuallly, I was subpoened to testify. I moved from LA to Long Beach during that interim because I was afraid of being harrassed. What I saw occurred in broad daylight, on a main street in Venice, I happened to be in a third floor apartment and the entire image is forever frozen in my mind. When I testified, the lawyers for the police department tried to discredit me. I was just the witness of something I never wanted to see in the first place. I don't know how the case worked out but I do know that I testified against the lapd for police brutality one year before Rodney King and the riots happened.

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
13. An unfortunate episode to have to be a witness to, made strikingly less comfortable living under
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 01:10 AM
Feb 2013

their 'area of control'. Most fear a ticket for jay walking, because in the movies only one heroic cop is needed to clean up the most vile and dangerous gangs, rioters or angry mobsters. They enjoy watching shows like 'Cops', don't ask me why. How is it that the open disregard, the violence and mistreatment of the persons they 'apprehend' doesn't bring lawsuits by the victims? How can anyone watch this shit?

People can't feel what you feel, and can't understand what it means, and I don't know why. What you witnessed and went through should rend any ones heart, but I'm not telling you anything you don't already know; you can tell your story to your friends, but unless you embellish it with gory detail or make someone a hero, it means nothing.

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