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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums*31* children have been killed by guns since Newtown, and since 1979 the number might make you cry
Child
Any Gender
Any Location
Any Date
Matched Deaths: 31 or more since Newtown (22 boys, 9 girls)
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2012/12/gun_death_tally_every_american_gun_death_since_newtown_sandy_hook_shooting.html
101 teens (86 boys, 15 girls). 1639 adults (1379 men, 259 women). 1775 total. 29.5 people A DAY.
JUST FROM TODAY-
http://www.wlox.com/story/21130521/police-child-10-killed-in-random-minn-shooting
3 in Utah drug house-http://news.hjnews.com/news/article_5a6bbc2a-7536-11e2-83ae-001a4bcf887a.html
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2013/02/12/Girl-4-shoots-self-with-familys-gun/UPI-16091360699618/
http://www.minotdailynews.com/page/content.detail/id/573189/Westhope-man-found-dead--another-charged-with-murder.html?nav=5010
http://www.kaplantoday.com/view/full_story/21695208/article-Two--Abbeville-brothers-killed-by-17-year-old-on-Mardi-Gras-morning?instance=home_news_lead
http://www.khou.com/news/local/Neighbor-killed-homeowner-shot-during-home-invasion-in-Alvin-190938971.html
When he drove up, he realized a home invasion was in progress and he took out his gun and started shooting while still behind the wheel, Alberts sister told KHOU 11 News. The home invaders returned fire.
That is when she said she saw Garcia slump over the steering wheel. She said she and other family members ran to the car and pulled him out to perform CPR but it was too late.
http://www.ydr.com/ci_22576935/2-dead-apparent-murder-suicide-near-u-maryland
http://www.greatfallstribune.com/viewart/20130212/NEWS01/302120014/Autopsy-Officer-s-shot-killed-BB-gun-toting-man-Billings
http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/1-dead-4-hurt-in-Vallejo-shooting-4271870.php
and more.
now for the awful part.
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20 Children in Newtown: 116,385 Kids Killed Since 1979
The human cost of our pervasive gun culture: how we have been brainwashed
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/whats-in-name/201212/20-children-in-newtown-116385-kids-killed-1979
When gun advocates tell you we need our guns, cite the number of American children dying every hour in the U.S., the more then 30,000 Americans killed every year, the more than 60,000 injuredthe more than 100,000 victims of guns every year, not counting the hundreds of thousands of family members and relatives, whose lives are forever changed by these lossesdeath, injury, and psychic trauma. Tell gun advocates these losses are not acceptable. When gun advocates tell you gun deaths have decreased, repeat these numbers and tell them these losses are not acceptable. When gun advocates tell you your chance of being shot is about as great as being hit by lightning, tell them we cant control lightning, but we can control guns, gun magazines, sales of ammunition, and hollow tipped bullets (designed to do the most physical damagethe bullets used to kill the kids in Newton). When gun control advocates tell you guns dont kill people, people do, theyve made your point for you. We need gun control for the people using the guns. When gun advocates tell you people are more at risk in gun free zones ask them why murder rates in Europe and Australia (which have strict gun control laws) are so small compared to ours. Its not gun free zones that cause increased murder rates, its increased, easy access to guns. When gun advocates tell you, you are less likely to be shot if you carry a gun, tell them scientific studies prove just the opposite.5 When gun control advocates tell you we need guns to protect our freedom, tell them that guns are actually restricting our rights to life, liberty (freedom from fear), and happiness.
Most gun owners are decent people horrified by all of this. However, there are gun owners who carry a gun because they are terrified of their own projected fears. Despite their argument that you are more likely to be hit by lightening than shot, they are afraid to walk down the street without a gun hidden in their pocketthats how afraid they are. What kind of society do we live in that citizens believe that they have to have a gun concealed in their pocket in order to be safe? Perhaps its because they grew up in school having to practice lockdown in case a shooter breaks in and wants to shoot themthey grew up in fear of being shot. We are creating a vicious cycle of arming our citizenry that is not doing anything but making it easier for us to kill one another. We are creating a paranoid society that has been brainwashed by the NRA into believing we need to be armed to the teeth. The solution to all our problems is buy, buy, buy guns from them so they can make a billion dollars a year in profits. Gun companies provide 75% of the funding for the NRA. We have been brainwashed into buying the products and the story line of big business. Why have we fallen for this?
If things are going to change, you and I are going to have to do something. It can be something very simple. Adam Green suggests we call the White House and our representatives once a month and tell them we want them to enact common sense gun control legislation. I would add banning gun clips, regulating ammunition sales, and banning hollow tip bulletslike the ones the kids in Newtown were shot with. Whatever you decide to do, get your friends to help too, and keep up the pressure until something gets done. We can no longer think, As long as its not me, I dont care, I dont have the time, I didnt know, etc. There are no more excuses left.
farminator3000
(2,117 posts)Mother Of Slain Oakdale Boy: Why Shoot Innocent People?
http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2013/02/12/vigil-planned-at-oakdale-church-in-aftermath-of-shooting/
ugh.
GCP
(8,166 posts)I came back to the UK after living in the US for 31 years and it's like a huge amount of stress just dropped off my shoulders. And whenever I visit, the stress level is there as soon as I step off the plane. Airport personnel are usually obnoxious, for no good reason, and there's just an underlying hostility which can come to the surface very quickly.
farminator3000
(2,117 posts)and if so, are they at least more polite???
i'm starting to think we need a 'opinion tax' in the US, the 'speech' these people produce with their 'freedom' is just a big glob of groupthink/mind control.
like, insulting Gabby Giffords on her FB page.
here's an idea- if cops can be declared 'too smart' to be cops, shouldn't some people be declared 'not capable' of owning a gun?
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/01/too-smart-to-be-a-good-cop/
Jordan, a 49-year-old college graduate, took the exam in 1996 and scored 33 points, the equivalent of an IQ of 125. But New London police interviewed only candidates who scored 20 to 27, on the theory that those who scored too high could get bored with police work and leave soon after undergoing costly training.
The average score nationally for police officers is 21 to 22, the equivalent of an IQ of 104, or just a little above average.
sure, sounds 'draconian', but if you can put a restraining order on a violent person, why not a bigot or moran?