the get-go, the slide down for the water bottle and the expression on his face confirmed. He's a doofus child in a grown-up world.

but the insane priorities of the media often hurt the Democrats

It isn't as if what he had to say was a complete surprise. They are the same damn talking points which get hashed out all the time.

as I was about to shut down my laptop I noticed your
hair on fire character running back and forth, and
wondered if that keeps happening even when my
computer goes to sleep.. and .. now my computer
can't get back to sleep for wondering about it.

and two wrongs don't make a right...

Thanks for your insight

I have no compunctions against tearing Rubio down - he brought this on himself.

It's not our fault he didn't adequately prepare, try making his speech in front of a mirror, have a speaking coach give him some advice like "Don't drink your water in the middle of a speech."

"and two wrongs don't make a right..." but yet we "fight fire with fire"

Hard to know what to do when surrounded by two contrasting bumper-stickers both pretending to be valid thought.

and also the second UP TO A POINT. What's your "valid thought"?

My only valid thought is that it's difficult to take bumper-stickers seriously, as with those who choose to use them, and rationalize them as actual thought.

...up to a point, you see.

Better to focus on the stupid and hypocritical things he said.

I take a medication that makes me thirsty. I always have water with me. Especially when I speak publicly. It's a ridiculous controversy.

But I still think it's funny. It was the way it was executed. The water was out of reach. He knows it's going to be awkward, he doesn't know how to execute this eloquently. It ends up looking like something out of a cheesy stand up routine.

His mouth was very dry by the way. That part wasn't funny.

Any chance to make fun of them is great. Any chance to derail Rubio is great.
This isn't a tea party. It's a war with victims (mainly poor and women).

joked immediately after that that was some Cary Grant move he made there for the drink of water:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2363351

And what he should have done instead:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2363566

It was fun too watching Twitter and the internet tubes light up faster than you can say "Rubio".


And let me take this opportunity, AsahinaKimi, to say how much I enjoy your posts. And that one with the blizzard pics the other was especially fun!

I was almost expecting him to do a full out Chevy Chase..and fall over the table reaching for it..That would have been classic.

The good thing is that style matters. Jindal got blasted a few years ago when he looked awkward in that SOTU rebuttal. That ended his chances and he WAS the next big star. No one remembers the words said (try to think of one sentence uttered by Rubio) but people remember the style and what they saw. This was the problem with Obama's first debate (he looked sluggish). This was the problem with Nixon v Kennedy. This is what people will remember and it means the Republicans have one less tool in their tool kit.

They have no tools but thanks for your ardent consideration. So happy you mentioned Obama looked sluggish, but he slugged the shit out of Romney didn't he?

Yeah, Obama destroyed Romney in the next two debates, thankfully. It was almost comical how bad Romney looked compared to the President. The consensus was that if you just listened to the first debate, Obama did well but those who watched it felt the other way. When Nixon debated Kennedy his gross, sweaty, jaundiced faced turned a lot of people away.

Although I dont think republicans have any possibilities to win nationally any time soon, I dont want to take any chances because of 2000 and 2004. Anytime they shoot themselves in the foot (the water drinking and face swatting of Rubio and their civil war with the tea party) it helps us out. Rubio will be remembered for messing up his big moment when he was to be formally revealed to the country. His awkward hand gestures and drinking is the legacy of that moment. Republicans now have to resort to plan B. This is a good thing.

do it because they are being insincere and the words are sticking in their throats. It happened to Paul Ryan at the debate too...remember him guzzling water?

He's getting talked about way more than if he hadn't taken his big gulp. Also, for me the moment signifies how unready for the world stage this particular politician is.

what in the world would anyone have to say about Rubio were it not for that moment?

I just watched it and didn't think it was that bad, but the water should have been closer to where he was speaking and maybe it should have been in a glass. Other than that, I got nothin'.

"and were he a Dem people here would be saying so..."

Nice try, but, yet again, nope.

And that's good if you're hoping that they become a permanent minority.

It doesn't matter if it was funny or not.

Republicans have made fun of Obama for years for using a teleprompter knowing damn good and well that it standard practice.......So i see this drink of water business as more of the same.

It is stupid, and silly, and completely irrelevant in every way......

But this is who we are these days.

Not proud of it, but it is hard to deny....

it was his facial expression and movements. He looks like a kid caught doing something he shouldn't.

usually they reserve this kind of superficial, silly smear for democrats.

I thought it was SO funny. I laugh every time I think of it.

Besides, they're so irrelevant these days, who cares what he was saying? It was just more of the same crap that lost them the election in 2012. They're idiots and it seems they will continue to be. I think that point is coming across loud and clear in the media today. So why not enjoy the funny?

The water's seven feet to your left, and you're on camera, live. Do you just work up some spit and deal with it, or do you hurl yourselv across the room for that bottle of water?

Rubio chose poorly.

That said, I don't think it's goofy enough to overshadow the SOTU.

on Rubio's part, undermining his (and the GOP's) credibility.

But, yeah, too much is being made of it, imo.

But I don't really see why it should be so hilarious, no.

The moment I saw that lurch to the water with his eyes on the camera, I knew he was dead meat. Something was transmitted through the airwaves that spoke louder than his pitiful lies. Lies such as still living in the same old neighborhood, poor thing. Yet he just put that house on the market for $650,000! He's a crook who lived off his campaign money, and moralizes with the best of the hypocrites. The look in his eyes as he went for the water bottle betrayed him more than words could do. Anyone who wasn't a hack would have said, "Excuse me," walked over to the water, taken a drink, and gone on. He made it way more than that. It was more that inelegant, more than awkward ... it was creepy.

without a break.

There were also the weird hand gestures and the flopsweat.

I think it was oddly funny, and I also think there hasn't really been much of a fuss...

He got thirsty. He drank. He was nervous.

So fucking what?

Been laughing about it all day!

he grabbed for the water, he was wiping away spittle from the corners of his mouth.

This idea – that our problems were caused by a government that was too small – it’s just not true. In fact, a major cause of our recent downturn was a housing crisis created by reckless government policies.

So I will laugh at whatever I want to.
He is an opportunistic and entitled-feeling liar, and I think this water thing is lucky for him because it may humanize him to some.
But not to me, I live in Florida.
Rubio has ventured outside his Jeb-built bubble, and found that the world outside is as harsh and unforgiving to him as the GOP is towards the poor.
He will get lots more mileage out of this as he scurries around the media.
In my opinion, fussing about the fuss is misplaced.

I admit, I finally watched it and it was pretty damn funny.

Excessive fluids may or may not be the sign of something.

Maybe Rubio knows he isn't going to be on the national ticket, so maybe he wants to broaden his image to do a Sarah.

We have no idea.

Anything to make fun of repukes and show their "heroes" up to be completely incompetent dickheads is fine by me.

Plus the fucker lied constantly in his "speech".

that was funny

That said, I'm surprised it became as big a deal as it did. I guess in our age anything can become a "trending topic."

Yes, I laughed. It was really the look on his face as he was trying to sneak it. It should have been within easy reach of him, and he should have just taken a drink. He was thirsty. But, it certainly was funny. How could he think the camera was not on him at all times?

politician's personalities and personal quirks rather than their backers and their policies.

encourages people to view politics in terms of personalities and to attack people at a junior high school level -- because they wear funny shoes, have big noses, don't know not to drink water during speeches, and similar irrelevant stuff.