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CreekDog

(46,192 posts) Thu Feb 14, 2013, 08:33 PM Feb 2013

This is the fourth engine room fire that's left a Carnival ship without power

It's one thing to lose propulsion or lose power.

But to lose both? Multiple times, on ships that are hundreds of miles out in the ocean?

Obviously a boat can lose propulsion, that's not inconceivable. But from everything I'm reading, they lost propulsion from a fairly small fire, and then lost all but a minimal amount of power.

So when a small fire leaves a ship days from shore and at the same time, leaves it without power to run its sanitation systems, that's a huge problem.

I've been on cruises. This is a fatal flaw that will keep me from getting on one again until it's addressed.

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This is the fourth engine room fire that's left a Carnival ship without power (Original Post) CreekDog Feb 2013 OP

You and me both. I can't see it happening with the greed is good corporate owned lines, though. we can do it Feb 2013 #1

i feel like what happened on the ship is how things would be if republicans JI7 Feb 2013 #2

The last 2 were Fincantieri ships... Cooley Hurd Feb 2013 #3

I'm no expert...but there is not enough redundancy if you lose sanitation CreekDog Feb 2013 #4

I think one of the ones a couple years back was relatively new, too Blue_Tires Feb 2013 #6

It could very well be cloudbase Feb 2013 #5

They are indeed... adnoid Feb 2013 #7

we can do it

(12,193 posts)

1. You and me both. I can't see it happening with the greed is good corporate owned lines, though.

Reply to CreekDog (Original post)

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 08:34 PM

Feb 2013

JI7

(89,264 posts)

2. i feel like what happened on the ship is how things would be if republicans

Reply to CreekDog (Original post)

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 08:35 PM

Feb 2013

were able to get their way with everything .

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)

3. The last 2 were Fincantieri ships...

Reply to CreekDog (Original post)

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 08:42 PM

Feb 2013

Not sure how much bearing this fact has, but interesting.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)

4. I'm no expert...but there is not enough redundancy if you lose sanitation

Reply to Cooley Hurd (Reply #3)

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 08:43 PM

Feb 2013

from the same small event that leaves you stranded.

that's just crazy.

that means any engine problem is a disastrous sanitation nightmare inside the ship.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)

6. I think one of the ones a couple years back was relatively new, too

Reply to Cooley Hurd (Reply #3)

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 09:01 PM

Feb 2013

those engineers better start working in some backups and failsafes...

cloudbase

(5,525 posts)

5. It could very well be

Reply to CreekDog (Original post)

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 08:56 PM

Feb 2013

that the ships are diesel-electric or turbine-electric, using the engines to drive a generator that in turn drive an electric propulsion motor. If you lose the main generators, you're out of luck as far as propulsion goes. There is a requirement on ships above a certain size where they must have an emergency generator, but they're of limited capacity and generally required only to run vital equipment such as fire pumps, steering gear, and limited hotel services.

adnoid

(22 posts)

7. They are indeed...

Reply to cloudbase (Reply #5)

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 10:12 PM

Feb 2013

A total of 6 diesel generators on this one, 4 are V12 and 2 are V8, each about the size of a bus.

2 25,000 HP electric motors driving propellers on shafts, with conventional rudders.

Amazing that it could all be made inoperative - not set up with the redundancy you would expect.

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