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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 11:41 PM Feb 2013

Student with folding shovel prompts school lockdown

Student with folding shovel prompts school lockdown

MERIDIAN -- A student carrying a folding, military-style shovel prompted police action at Heritage Middle School Thursday.

The school was put into lockdown around 9 a.m. Thursday. That's when authorities received a report of an armed suspect in the school, located at 4990 North Meridian Road.

Meridian police weren't initially sure what type of weapon the suspect was carrying. However, Deputy Chief Tracy Basterrechea says officers eventually located the male teen, and determined the shovel was being used as a prop for a class.

After further investigation, police learned the shovel actually belonged to a teacher, who had asked an 8th grade student to grab it from their car. The teacher planned to use the it as part of a classroom discussion on WWII.

http://www.ktvb.com/news/Meridian-middle-school-on-lock--191220261.html

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Student with folding shovel prompts school lockdown (Original Post) The Straight Story Feb 2013 OP
So, if teachers were armed ... earthside Feb 2013 #1
Or a shovel wound... :) (nt) The Straight Story Feb 2013 #2
Oh my gosh! tblue Feb 2013 #5
heh, I have one of these shovels in my car high density Feb 2013 #3
Right near where I live libodem Feb 2013 #4
Dumb asses. bluedigger Feb 2013 #9
A bit of overkill libodem Feb 2013 #11
Holy crap! Good thing that did not take place in AZ. lonestarnot Feb 2013 #6
Was it an assault shovel ? n/t PoliticAverse Feb 2013 #7
Nope. No pistol grip. Was Semi-Auto, can only dig one hole at a time The Straight Story Feb 2013 #8
They did say military-style..... Nolimit Feb 2013 #17
Probably an entrenching tool. They have been used to kill people. FarCenter Feb 2013 #10
OMG! MadHound Feb 2013 #12
Why do you think they don't have shop and home ec anymore? Too many sharp and pointy things. FarCenter Feb 2013 #13
Generally because they don't have the money, MadHound Feb 2013 #14
Come on TheKentuckian Feb 2013 #15
Glad to know schools are trenches nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #16
I'd bet there are lots of weapons in your Jeep FarCenter Feb 2013 #18
Alas I don't think that way nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #19

libodem

(19,288 posts)
4. Right near where I live
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 11:52 PM
Feb 2013

They locked down the school. Surrounded the campus, Shut down the streets. Sent in 60 officers. Locked the kids in the class rooms for two hours, while they maintained defensive positions. The police had their guns out and went class room to class room and asked every teacher if they had all of their students, if any were missing, and if they had anyone extra in the classroom, who did not belong there.

When they saw on the video tapes it was a fold up camping shovel and not an ax, they cleared the drill. The kids and parents were crying. It was tramatic for them.

bluedigger

(17,087 posts)
9. Dumb asses.
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:06 AM
Feb 2013

Those folding shovels have a serrated edge on them. You know, so you can use them as an axe.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
11. A bit of overkill
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:13 AM
Feb 2013

What if a weapon accidentally discharged and killed a student? It could have gone wrong.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
10. Probably an entrenching tool. They have been used to kill people.
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:06 AM
Feb 2013
After further investigation, police learned the shovel actually belonged to a teacher, who had asked an 8th grade student to grab it from their car. The teacher planned to use the it as part of a classroom discussion on WWII.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrenching_tool

During World War I, the entrenching spade was also pressed into service as a weapon. In the close confines of a trench, rifles and fixed bayonets were often too long for effective use, and entrenching tools were often used as auxiliary arms for close-quarter fighting.


Some have a serrated edge on the blade. They can also be filed to a sharp edge.
 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
12. OMG!
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:19 AM
Feb 2013

Gee, lots of things can be used as weapons in school. Those cute poles they put the flags up on in the gym during assemblies? Notice the spear tip? Those used to be used regularly to kill people, back in the Civil War. Oh, and those rocks out in the parking lot? They used to be used to stone people to death about two thousand years ago.

Continue down this path of being hysterical at nothing and you discredit efforts to get legitimate weapons out of schools.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
13. Why do you think they don't have shop and home ec anymore? Too many sharp and pointy things.
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:40 AM
Feb 2013

Blunt scissors for everybody through senior high.

(Then we enlist them, give them a Squad Automatic Weapon, and send them off to shoot towelheads.)

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
14. Generally because they don't have the money,
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:50 AM
Feb 2013

At least in this part of the country(Missouri). In the rural and poor areas you can take shop and home ec in high school, in urban/suburban districts it starts in middle school.

Oh, and sharp scissors start in third grade.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
16. Glad to know schools are trenches
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 01:24 AM
Feb 2013

And that I am carrying a weapon in the Jeep. Mine was once issued to a GI in WWIi or Korea.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
18. I'd bet there are lots of weapons in your Jeep
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:01 AM
Feb 2013

Any blade of over about 1-2" length can be used to cut the carotid artery.

Any cordage or wiring with a tensile strength of > 200 lbs can be used as to strangle.

There's a 4' USB cord within reach that would do nicely.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
19. Alas I don't think that way
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:08 PM
Feb 2013

And you know what is shocking? I once rode in an ambulance properly marked per the Geneva Convention. This might come as a shock to you...but under that pesky convention I was able (and willing) to defend my patients or myself.

Cops doing this shit over an entrenching tool used as part of a class is stupid, real stupid.

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