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I never thought I would say these words. Not ever did I think it. Never. (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Feb 2013 OP
I saw many Ted Cruz ads during my time in Texas last year.. mountain grammy Feb 2013 #1
*Republican* Texans sucked it up KatyMan Feb 2013 #22
Yes, what a coup indeed. I hope it happens in my lifetime. mountain grammy Feb 2013 #27
Some R's can be pragmatic, but you will be hard pressed to find them anymore Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #2
I see one! I see one! Too late. They got him. Kennah Feb 2013 #7
The coming blueification of Texas can't come soon enough. nt onehandle Feb 2013 #3
Cruz is as worthless as they come jsr Feb 2013 #4
I wouldn't say I miss Kay Skittles Feb 2013 #5
Cruz and His Like Are Nut Jobs colsohlibgal Feb 2013 #6
My in-laws live smack in the middle of the Permian Basin, one of America's richest oil fields. mountain grammy Feb 2013 #19
Reagan was a horror to the Texas economy LeftInTX Feb 2013 #24
I know, I moved from Houston to Denver in 1984. After two years of Reagan, mountain grammy Feb 2013 #28
Look on the bright side . . . MrModerate Feb 2013 #8
The death of the Republican Party will be a disaster. rhett o rick Feb 2013 #15
A two-party system (or three or four) . . . MrModerate Feb 2013 #17
The progressives only hope is to drive the conservatives back out of the Democratic Party. rhett o rick Feb 2013 #20
The likes of Ted Cruz befouls the senate Politicub Feb 2013 #9
Yep, gonna miss old Kay Bailey (a little)... tex-wyo-dem Feb 2013 #10
Don't miss Kay B H but we all know Ted Cruz wants Cha Feb 2013 #11
Kay Bailey couldn't take out Perry LeftInTX Feb 2013 #12
Ted Crudz ashling Feb 2013 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Horse with no Name Feb 2013 #14
Why would you choose a quote that is something we should agree on? OnlinePoker Feb 2013 #16
Cruz ran on the promise to be an obnoxious, teabagging asshole. Buns_of_Fire Feb 2013 #18
So when Hagel is Sec of Defense, think he might close a Texas base or two? mountain grammy Feb 2013 #21
Cruz Makes Kay Bailey Look Like Jane Fonda By Comparison. Paladin Feb 2013 #23
I've said it before and I will say it again: Initech Feb 2013 #25
I'm old enough to remember Joe McCarthy... Demoiselle Feb 2013 #26
She was fairly decent for a Repug alarimer Feb 2013 #29
unfortunately musette_sf Feb 2013 #30

mountain grammy

(26,623 posts)
1. I saw many Ted Cruz ads during my time in Texas last year..
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:07 PM
Feb 2013

in them he promised to take on Obama, who wants to put an end to drilling for oil and gas. Say what?? Texans sucked it up.

KatyMan

(4,197 posts)
22. *Republican* Texans sucked it up
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 01:49 PM
Feb 2013

Not all Texans. Right on the cusp of turning blue, Dems need to focus on this state. What a coup it would be!

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
6. Cruz and His Like Are Nut Jobs
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 12:51 AM
Feb 2013

What is it with Texas? The heat?

I just watched a "Frontline" show, "The Revisionists", focusing on a couple of delusional religious nuts recently trying to get Texas school textbooks changed - and they got some of what they wanted. I assume Cruz is down with that, the idea that "The Flintstones" was real, that the earth is only 6000 years old or so. There is indisputable scientific proof that's far from true but they poo poo that.

These types would have fit in well during the Dark Ages because that's where they really are.

mountain grammy

(26,623 posts)
19. My in-laws live smack in the middle of the Permian Basin, one of America's richest oil fields.
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 11:06 AM
Feb 2013

The first discovery and boom was in the 20's and they haven't run out yet. The first big bust was the Great Depression, and that part of Texas suffered as much or more than anyone. FDR and WWII saved them. My husband grew up there during the prosperous 50's and 60's. He moved to Colorado the day after he graduated HS and never looked back.
Funny how the biggest bust since the 30's started under St. Reagan, importing all that "cheap OPEC oil" but then there were still plenty of "liberals" to blame. The basin is currently booming, but, even though that's happened under Obama, he is trying to shut them down, according to Ted Cruz and my in laws. They all prosper from the remains of millions of dinos from millions of years ago, but they don't believe in any of it. It's merely a "gift from God" put there by our beloved Savior, 2000 years ago. Dark Ages, indeed.
I honestly started to think there's something in the air and water affecting these people, but then there's our 85 year old Aunt in El Paso, as liberal as they come, so intelligence and reality do exist in Texas, but right now, the crazies have the floor.

LeftInTX

(25,369 posts)
24. Reagan was a horror to the Texas economy
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 02:23 PM
Feb 2013

Didn't he make a big deal about the little girl in the well?
And everyone ate it up.





mountain grammy

(26,623 posts)
28. I know, I moved from Houston to Denver in 1984. After two years of Reagan,
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 08:03 PM
Feb 2013

Texas already wasn't doing so well. I first met my husband's family in 1986. The economy of the Permian Basin region was in the toilet and stayed there for a long time. It's booming now, thanks to that Muslim Communist facist Obama.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
8. Look on the bright side . . .
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 12:55 AM
Feb 2013

It's nuts like Cruz who are killing the Republican Party, which clearly needs to happen.

Myself, I'd rather that sensible Republicans (there must be some left) ejected these berserkers from their midst, but I don't see that happening. So a Whig-like crash is the best we can hope for, with some sane center-right party arising from the ashes.

It's going to be a bumpy ride.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
15. The death of the Republican Party will be a disaster.
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 01:46 AM
Feb 2013

I dont believe anyone wants a one party system. Sure it looks good but we need the balance of a two party system. As the Republcan Party dies, the Republicans come to our party bringing their ideology with them.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
17. A two-party system (or three or four) . . .
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 08:59 AM
Feb 2013

Is essential for the country to prosper. And I can't pretend that I have a plausible scenario worked out for how the GOP crashes and how the Grand New Party emerges.

Perhaps, as the 'Licans fragment, so will the Center-Left, eventually ending up with Radical Right (tiny), Sane R-O'-Center (medium), Sane L-O'-Center (medium), Progressive (smallish), and (just to stir things up) Greens (tiny).

Libertarians might make some noise but would be irrelevant, as would the 'Far Left' (basically three PolySci grads from Columbia in a basement in Toledo).

The virtue here is, rather than having to provide a program that covers every aspect of a nation's governmental needs, there's room for single- or handful-issue voters (Greens, mostly) whose elected representatives could pursue those goals without having to pretend to fix everything.

Also, the multiple parties — who are always going to be short of an absolute majority — would have to form coalitions to govern at all, which would have the effect of grinding down the sharp corners of extremism (almost entirely on the right, these days) that is crippling the system today.

Just a thought.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
20. The progressives only hope is to drive the conservatives back out of the Democratic Party.
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 11:56 AM
Feb 2013

Starting a new progressive party will not succeed. This will be tough because at the national level the Democratic Party appears to be under the control of the conservatives. We must fight within the party but we can get help from outside the party in the form of progressive organizations like moveon, PCCC, PDA, etc. They did a lot to get Sen Warren, Rep Grayson, and other progressive elected.

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
10. Yep, gonna miss old Kay Bailey (a little)...
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 01:06 AM
Feb 2013

Although I disagreed with her positions close to 100% of the time, she at least seemed somewhat reasonable and willing to compromise from time to time (kind of old school GOP).

Cruz, on the other hand, is a psychopathic nutcase moron who makes a mockery of his position as senator.

Cha

(297,292 posts)
11. Don't miss Kay B H but we all know Ted Cruz wants
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 01:08 AM
Feb 2013

to make a name for himself as an ugly American.. and, he's got the oozing hate to do it.

LeftInTX

(25,369 posts)
12. Kay Bailey couldn't take out Perry
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 01:13 AM
Feb 2013

That is how bad it has gotten here in the last few years. If she would have run against him in 2006 instead of 2010 she would have probably won.

She was painted as a RINO and Washington insider by Perry and she lost.

She ran against Perry in 2010, promising term limits for Texas governors.

(Edited to correct grammar)

Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

OnlinePoker

(5,722 posts)
16. Why would you choose a quote that is something we should agree on?
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 02:10 AM
Feb 2013

Why not a quote that shows his tea-soaked, bombastic, moronic nature?

Buns_of_Fire

(17,181 posts)
18. Cruz ran on the promise to be an obnoxious, teabagging asshole.
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 10:22 AM
Feb 2013

After being sworn in, sure enough, he's been an obnoxious, teabagging asshole. Seems he's doing just what the people who voted for him wanted him to do.

Problem is, he's not just playing to his ignorant base anymore. Now he's also got to get along with the big boys in his exclusive club. I heard someone on one of the talking head shows say, "He can play to the cheap seats now -- but wait until he wants something."

From what little I know about Senate protocol, the more senior members of the club have their little ways of marginalizing other members who don't play nice with them and kiss their pampered asses at every opportunity. I have a feeling that L'il Ted is going to suffer some serious slapdowns soon enough if he doesn't put on some Chapstick and start kissing where it'll do some good.

Paladin

(28,264 posts)
23. Cruz Makes Kay Bailey Look Like Jane Fonda By Comparison.
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 02:09 PM
Feb 2013

The upside is that Cruz has attained Loose Cannon/Bad Joke status in record time.

Initech

(100,080 posts)
25. I've said it before and I will say it again:
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 02:30 PM
Feb 2013

If the Tea Party had been around during the revolutionary war, we'd still be under British rule. Really, if they had been around during the French Revolution, they'd think what the elite were doing back then was just fine and dandy.

Demoiselle

(6,787 posts)
26. I'm old enough to remember Joe McCarthy...
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 02:47 PM
Feb 2013

(Well, I remember my parents going ballistic over him....) and this guy looks and sounds like him.
Mean bastard.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
29. She was fairly decent for a Repug
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 08:27 PM
Feb 2013

Or at least not so batshit.

Some of her positions were at least somewhat to the left of what is now the mainstream of the Republican Party and she wasn't nearly as corrupt as Gramm.

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