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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat are police like in your area?
Where-ever you are.
Here in Sheboygan most of them are good cops, a few though are lazy.
The last "tactical situation" we had here in Sheboygan, cops saw two gang members enter the front of the house, they surround it, tear gas the shit out of the interior, seems no one noticed the two gangbangers had left via the back door long before the cops surrounded the house.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Fat, skinny, lazy, hardworking, dishonest, honest, black, brown, white, short, tall, male, female.
Mixed bag, just like the rest of humanity.
Squinch
(50,955 posts)into a safe doorway. I don't think they were wearing any kind of body armor, but they did it anyway.
I have to say I like NYC cops.
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)The city cops in Vegas are corrupt, abusive, and/or incompetent. And I used to be a probation officer and DA's paper-pusher. Very few of them make me feel safer.
MADem
(135,425 posts)If anything bad happens, the state police need to be called in.
russspeakeasy
(6,539 posts)It is what I imagined Mississippi to be like in the 50's.
Redneck crackers....I'm an old white guy with a lot of military MP experience; I know posers when I see them; right down to their mirrored sun glasses.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)I do see the Fire Depts. a lot, mostly for their EMT work. Since the freeway is really busy here, it would seem that you would see a lot of Hwy patrol, but I haven't seen one in 13 years. When I lived in LA, they were more visable than most of the cop agencies.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)On Halloween they handed out those glow loop thingies to kids they drove by.
Every borough event, they set up booths featuring police related subjects and let the kids sit in their cars to light the lights.
This Pennslvania smallish town police force is a far cry from the cold cops back in Dekalb County, Georgia.
pacalo
(24,721 posts)*knock on wood*
NoGOPZone
(2,971 posts)Incitatus
(5,317 posts)Brickbat
(19,339 posts)They're my friends, too. I know them and trust them.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)And have had several positive interactions. I think they do a great job.
RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)kenny blankenship
(15,689 posts)(from first hand experience, that is)
10 metro police officers face corruption charges
Friday, Feb. 15, 2013 <-Note the date!
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/10-metro-police-officers-face-corruption-charges/nWM4j/
By Steve Visser
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Ten metro Atlanta law officers are in police custody, accused of using their guns, badges and authority to facilitate drug deals under orders of a street gang.
An FBI SWAT team arrested the current and former cops Tuesday for taking payoffs some as low as $700 to protect cocaine deals taking place in crowded shopping centers and school parking lots. Five alleged accomplices also were arrested.
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The arrested officers came from wide swath of law agencies: Atlanta, Stone Mountain, Forest Park and the DeKalb County police and Sheriffs Office. Officers from MARTA and a contract agent for the Federal Protective Service also were arrested.
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At least some officers appeared willing to kill to protect their gang employers although no violence was reported. Just before a deal with a new buyer Jan. 30, DeKalb police Officer Dorian Williams told confederate Shannon Bass that wounding was not an option. I gotta (expletive) kill him, I just cant shoot him, Williams said in a secretly recorded conversation, according to the federal affidavit. Bass was among the accused accomplices arrested.
Sidney Dorsey Confesses To Derwin Brown Murder
(That should read ex-SHERIFF Sidney Dorsey confesses to Sheriff-Elect Derwin Brown Murder)
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/sidney-dorsey-confesses-to-derwin-brown-murder/nFCmR/
Aug. 16, 2007
ATLANTA
Sidney Dorsey has confessed to the murder of DeKalb County sheriff-elect Derwin Brown. DeKalb County officials announced the confession at a news conference Thursday morning.
Dorsey told (District Attorney Gwen Keyes) Fleming he wrote a note telling former sheriff's deputy Patrick Cuffy to kill his rival.
Two other men -- Melvin Walker and David Ramsey -- were sentenced in November 2005 to life in federal prison for their part in the murder-for-hire killing. The two, who previously were acquitted in a state trial in 2002, were convicted of federal conspiracy charges related to Brown's slaying.
Three Atlanta Police Officers Sentenced for Planting Evidence and Killing a 92-Year-Old Grandmother in Botched Raid
Johnathan Turley
http://jonathanturley.org/2009/03/08/three-atlanta-police-officers-sentenced-for-planting-evidence-and-killing-a-92-year-old-grandmother-in-botched-raid/
Three former Atlanta police officers have been sentenced to prison in one of the most disturbing recent cases of police abuse. Former officers Jason Smith, Gregg Junnier and Arthur Tesler were sentenced to ten to three years for their roles in the death of 92-year-old Kathryn Johnston.
The officers were accused of an astonishing range of criminal acts leading to Johnsons death. It began with the planting on drugs on a dealer named Fabian Sheats. They wanted to bust Sheats to help meet an informal quota for such arrests. When he came up clean, they planted pot that they had found earlier. They then forced him to give them an address of a house were they would buy drugs.
Sheats appears to have randomly pointed out 933 Neal St., the home of Johnston, and told them to look for a guy named Sam. However, they could not find a snitch to buy the drugs and departmental rules prevented them from using Sheats. So, they fabricated information on a warrant and got approval for a no knock entry.
Since it took about two minutes to bust (sic) down the door on Johnstons house and the old lady had time to grab a gun and fire once wildly missing the officers. They responded with 39 bullets hitting and killing Johnston five or six times though strangely the police department could not tell which officer actually killed Johnston. The police fire also wounded Junnier and two other officers. When they did not find any drugs, the officers are accused of planting drugs on the house and claiming that the informant had purchased drugs at their request from the house.
exboyfil
(17,863 posts)A couple go to my church. Got one speeding ticket from one of them. Deserved it and she was very professional about it, and I was very respectful. Filed two police reports over the years with them. They were always very helpful and courteous.
I do notice how they stand and act when they are in my home. They always appear on guard. Good training. I am very thankful for their presence. Of course I do have the "right" skin color. I can't speak to if I was an African American for example.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Boston, next door, has generally good cops as well. IIRC there was no bullshit when Occupy occupied Boston.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)lib2DaBone
(8,124 posts)"Revenue Driven"... which means that the police officer is expected by his employer to generate at least the amount of his/her salary in tickets.
Every Police Officer in the country has what they call a "Monthly Activity Report".
If an officer fails to reach the expected "activity Level".. you can be sure they will be called into the Sergeants office for counseling.
As always... MONEY.. is at the root of Police performance. Protecting the citizens is the very last item on the agenda.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)Nice enough if people are nice enough to them. Not as nice if people heap abuse on them. So, ordinary people.
lib2DaBone
(8,124 posts)If people are nice to them.. there is less chance they will escalate.
Our draconian drug laws, (the privatization of prisons to benefit the Bankers)... has skewed the conversation.
We have thousands of people in Jail.. that do not need to be there.. because they are a product of a failed War On Drugs.
The USA needs to determine who is in jail and why....( a simple task you would think.. ) .
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)of police officers. I was LE myself, although I was a Fed. Nobody wants to spend their time putting young kids in jail, changing the course of their lives permanently. And young police officers are just like other young people. They'd like to kick back on their off-duty hours too.
I know of a town in MS where they have a clothing factory. It makes prison uniforms. There's a prison right next to it. They send kids from the schools in the town to that prison. Now they've started firing the regular factory workers and use slave labor from the prison to work in the factory, making prison uniforms for all these private prisons all over the country. And the people in the town are losing their jobs. Since it's Mississippi, there wasn't a union. So there's nothing they can do about it. That factory was the largest single employer in town. Most of the employees were lower class white people, a solid Republican voting block in that state. Rather ironic that their own political ideology has done them out of their jobs.
But devastating that young African American youths are being railroaded into prison on trumped up charges, on anything from truancy to drugs, and winding up as a slave labor force. I know the Southern Poverty Law Center was working on the case. It's part of the school to prison pipeline. Luckily, in most places it's not as bad as that. And luckily, even in Mississippi it's an unusual situation.
Journeyman
(15,036 posts)I'm in South California. It's a wild mix of crazy quality and quality crazy. Each encounter can be a nerve racking chance at Russian roulette.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)bhikkhu
(10,718 posts)they seem a bit overworked, a bit tired of all the bad stuff all the time (lots of petty crime, theft and vandalism, drunks, domestic stuff), but generally good guys. There seems to be some kind of shaved-head style going on, which makes no sense in snowy winters, and no sense in sunny summers, but there's worse things.
ananda
(28,866 posts)..
fizzgig
(24,146 posts)can't remember which. it was a block from my house.
rightsideout
(978 posts)They once shot a woman armed with a bag of potato chips.
The cops here in Prince George's County scare me. The county has multiple lawsuits of police brutality. I'm more scared of the cops than the criminals. God help you if you are mistaken for a criminal.
Raine
(30,540 posts)paying big time in lawsuits because of their shooting of a surfer dude's truck in their chaotic attempt to get Dorner.
Initech
(100,081 posts)The cops here are out of control - they beat and killed an unarmed homeless guy. The fall out of which caused a recall of the mayor and the resignation of the police chief. They will pull you over for any damn near any - even the most minor of minor infractions. They arrest people at the bars left and right. You pretty much take your chances here.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)In my former area: racist rednecks, for the most part (this would be in Georgia, just barely inside the Atlanta metro area).
I was waiting on a friend and I thought I saw her car, saw it wasn't her and walked back to the sidewalk. A police cruiser came over and motioned me to approach. Asked me why I was making "suspicious" movements in the parking lot. Told me there was prostitution and "other things" going on in the area. Took my driving license and wrote down all my information. Humiliating to me. When I was so upset and scrambling to get my ID out of my purse he saw my cigarettes and said, "Don't you know smoking's bad for your health?" Yeah, no shit, Sherlocke Holmes! What is really bad for my health is to be harassed by a damn cop when I am I a public place waiting to meet a friend for lunch and am harassed and embarrassed for no good reason! I'm 55 years old! Do I really look like a prostitute or a car thief? I think not. Condescending, nasty and uptight police officer.
WCGreen
(45,558 posts)can't really say except they have always been really good to us.
We smelled what we thought was Natural Gas leaking and the police and fire department got her within five minutes to make sure we weren't in dire need. MrsWCGreen feel down one day and landed on her chin and the Ambulance came along wth a police car. That's about it.
frylock
(34,825 posts)In the 80's cops were killing people for wielding tree stakes and trowels around here.
donheld
(21,311 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)Dumber than dirt.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)However, I am a pretty white woman, so I guess I would not be the best judge of it. They are always nice to me, but others might have a different opinion.
madokie
(51,076 posts)I try to keep as low of a profile as I possibly can. Stay home mostly
many here are still gung-ho on pot which sucks.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)forestpath
(3,102 posts)He told me I reminded him of his mother (I live in NoVA, this happened in MD - afterwards I sent a letter of appreciation to his supervisor who responded to me with thanks). A few weeks ago thought I had a break in - another young cop came immediately, was super polite and concerned.
But while I'd never had anything positive at best, professional at worst, interactions with individual cops I certainly don't have a romanticized view of police departments. As a government institution I don't trust the police any more than I trust any other government institution and I realize that if I were not white and living in one of the richest counties in America my experiences may not have been the same.
EastKYLiberal
(429 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)The other night one purposely crashed his car into a relative's at highway speed, now he's back on paid leave pending an investigation. Same cop left the scene of an accident a while back (allegedly drunk) and tried to have his teenage kid take the blame.
I don't trust these fuckers.
underpants
(182,829 posts)Richmnd VA police chief resigns
Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)I work for department of treasury and a lot of the officers that work in my facility are former NYC officers and such. Most of them are decent guys and most aren't as jaded as I would have expected them to be given some of their experiences in the past. I'd trust the cops I work with to do the right thing.
I haven't had any experiences with cops in Newburgh, NY but they have a real crime problem there. 2 years ago it was listed as the murder capital of NY state. I think a lot of it has to do with the proximity to NYC and the gentrification that is happening down there. It is easier for gangs and such to run their drug operations out of some of the towns north of NYC and just hop on the train to get to the city than to do it out of the city. Many of the small towns around here don't have the same resources to deal with the gangs that a big city has. There have been some large gang busts in Newburgh in the last couple of years.