Hillary was a firebrand who became studious and let the other senators talk during her first term disappearing into her job, not showboating.And winning respect on all sides.

Elizabeth Warren is a firebrand who is copying Hillary Clinton and doing the same.
Going all into doing her job and not showboating.

Al Franken a known partisan firebrand, won respect on all sides, doing exactly what Hillary did too.

These republicans come in and against all protocol of the past since day one, are rude, crude, obnoxious and irritating everyone in the Senate, where one needs to amass votes.

It is why what President Obama does at rope'a'doping works time and again against these
republicans. He is indeed tearing down the entire party, one day at a time, and they don't even realize it. And they keep electing people like this, but it will get more and more marginalized in each cycle, until it becomes complete nothingness.

Amazing. And the amount of self love these people have.

Thankfully we have those on our side. Hillary,Elizabeth,Al. Who actually DO the job they were hired to do. Move the country forward. Not put on a show.

If you have neither, you put on a show. That's what McCarthy did. That's what Cruz is doing.

which is not to say she's copying Bernie either.

There is a major difference.
It is the difference between actually getting things done, and bloviating from either side.

The goal is to advance.

The point is not to say Elizabeth is Hillary on every issue.
The point is to say they like Al Franken, they won, then disappeared into doing their job, instead of having talking points yelled all over.

It is the ones in the senate that stay away from the cameras, even though there every move is on camera. They are not playing to the camera, but to the reason they wanted to be a senator in the first place.

It is why Hillary won the senate seat and respect while running and being Senator.
Because she worked. Elizabeth and Al Franken both are doing the same thing.
And it has NOTHING to do with perceived political views.
It has everything to do with how to be a senator that does good things.

They are doing it in spite of the cameras in front of them.

Work, what an antiquidated idea, and certainly, no reason to argue over.
Because it's a good thing, not a thing to argue. And has nothing to do with certain wedge issues.
Maybe it's just something someone older sees.
It really has nothing at all to do with Bernie Sanders at all.

First of all, Warren has NOT "disappeared" doing her job. Franken did take a much more low profile stance upon election. And btw, dear, no one has worked harder than Bernie. And he did that for 16 years in the House before being elected to the Senate.

Warren is taking her own route. It's stupid shit to think she's copying Hillary in any way.

Hillary-Al Franken-Elizabeth Warren

they are the keys to the opposite of Cruz.

It is not Hillary vs. Warren.

It is the ones that become great statespeople, and the ones that bloviate.
It is why Ted Kennedy did so well especially after 1980. He lost himself in his job.

They accomplish.

They shun the cameras, even though the cameras are there.

why is this a bad thing?

When someone did something the right way, it is indeed used in the future.

So, yes, actually, Hillary did what Ted Kennedy and others did.
It is not an insult saying Franken and Warren are doing the same thing.

and this is not individual vs. individual. It is doing the job hired.

Hillary and Al Franken have won much respect from all (but the tea party dividers) on how they have unexpected to their dislikers, WORKED as Senators to do the job at hand, and all it entails. Disappearing into the job. And Elizabeth Warren is shunning the cameras not giving one interview after another, and DOING THE JOB.
She indeed is copying the successful mode, unlike Cruz who is copying the unsuccessful mode.

It is about governing a nation. Not bloviating.

And it's a good thing, not something to argue because the name Hillary is taken by some as
bad.

It is by working from #100 newbee, to major influences in achieving when the record is written.

(use Ron Paul as example-in the end he had ZERO accomplishments, though he more than any other, used the cameras and media like his son now is doing and also has ZERO accomplishments. Camera time does not make a good senator or congressman.)

(and Bernie has nothing to do with this discussion, but Bernie came after Hillary, not before, so if anything, Bernie also copied Hillary, however Bernie, is irrelevant to this, as he was not a star prior to being Senator. Hillary, Elizabeth, Al, Teddy were stars prior and all wanted to be great senators after already being a star).
To be a great leader, one needs to accomplish, to do. (and it is not about individual wedge issues, it is far, far greater in meaning.)

It is working studiously. Not grasping for the spotlight. The Senate is its own institution and has always been different than any other.

Elizabeth hasn't by any means disappeared.

Elizabeth is disappearing INTO her role as Senator, non Parallel by doing the job and learning how to get the job done.

There is a major difference.
Nuanced though it may be.

One can be a superstar and a star senator without acting like a superstar by having the superstar disappear and the star senator appear.

It is about EARNING the title star senator
as opposed to being Superstar Senator

EARNING is the important part. The greatest senators of all time EARNED their position, and were not elected to the title. They worked it(to use today's lingo).

Edit to add to the above-
example

HuffPost reports on her every move.
However, she is not giving specific interviews to Huff.
She is doing her job and Huff reports(or any other media report).

As opposed to running to the cameras or Fox as the teaparty people do.

Letting the work be the reporting, not the spin from a senators mouth.

It is the old fashioned way. Not the modern way. And it is quite effective.
Elizabeth Warren is winning my respect more and more every minute(yes, like Hillary did.)
Doing does that. Being in the arena instead of outside the arena.

there is a difference

He participated in some hearings and spoke, but not much.

All the media is focused on her.
And reporting what she is doing
She is not hogging the microphones like say, John McCain and Lindsay Graham do.

It's hard to explain if you don't understand what I mean.

It's a finese point.
She is making them cover the topic as opposed to the person and remaining true to the topic itself. The singular issue of importance. The issue is what stands, which is what a great stateswoman does, doing the work.

Opposed to any republican bigwig and how they run pleading a case to the media 24/7/365
but not getting anything positive happening, just trying to stop anything from happening
by being negative.They are bloviators, not statesmen or women.

A matter of focus.

He was esp. careful, since he had been a comedian. Even now, I see him holding back, refusing interviews.

Warren hasn't gotten Democratic Party seniors angry, but I noticed how vocal she was, for a freshman. Compared to other, more famous freshmen in the past.

The senate is not a forum. The senate is the place to get things done.

The tea party treats it as a forum to mock and hate.

It is why Harry Reid, except to those that do not understand what the senate is,
is doing a fantastic job. Because the Senate is not the House.

It is why Ted Kennedy did so well for 40 years.

The Senate is not facebook.

And the Democratic firebrands know it.
Whereas the republican ones do not.

(btw, it does not tar Elizabeth Warren to be linked to Hillary Clinton. It makes her even better.
They are on the same bookpage after all.)

It's just a given tragedy that the Republican nominee for Senate wins in today's Texas. We're trying to change that about Texas, but it's a big place, and it won't happen overnight.

This shitbag knows being the reincarnation of Joe McCarthy will play real well with the faux noise and hate radio crowd. He's spewing the bile they'd love to and I'm sure Cruz will be yanking at their checkbooks soon, if he isn't already. This dude is there to make government as dysfunctional as possible to "prove" the wingnut/Raygun mantra that "government is the problem". While his "fellow" rushpublicans may be "frosty"...they are both coward by him and privately urging him on. This dude will be a hemorrhoid on the American body politic for the next 5 plus year or more...

while they crap all over America and America's honorable veterans.

Who knew? And, that jerk was my Congressman before he became my Senator. I guess when compared to this Cruz cretin... My sympathy to the people of Texas who didn't vote for this nutbag. Maybe they can find a way to recall him, or otherwise get rid of him. I am waiting for DeMented's replacement to start in, too, as he's another nutty teabagger.

was considered charming to some. at least before people saw the mess he caused.

It shames me to have Cruz as my representive in Washington. What a douche bag that bozo is

put him on mute as I couldn't stand him. I made a game of it then as his face was kinda funny to watch (his lower lip turned into an inverted D and his arms went up like puppet arms) so I made up my own words up for him to say. You had to be there, but it was hilarious!

Pretty much every comment I've read on that article are from a bunch of Obama-hating nutbags. It's as bad as Yahoo.

One moronic fuckwad seemed to think that Cruz's opposition meant that Hagel wouldn't get confirmed. That was the point where I stopped reading.

And ask Perry to pick another moron to send (and expel as well)

it's a teabag thing.

Though we know that will never happen.