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The best part of MSBNC's Hubris with Rachel Maddow (Original Post) malaise Feb 2013 OP
It already aired? Control-Z Feb 2013 #1
It will air on Monday night malaise Feb 2013 #2
Don't get my hopes up libodem Feb 2013 #3
I don't expect them to make the big oil link but they do have malaise Feb 2013 #4
It was about the oil libodem Feb 2013 #5
I love Rachel again. Whisp Feb 2013 #6
They did piss me off with that debate malaise Feb 2013 #8
Part of me really wants to watch it, because I know it will be an awesome show and spot on. MoonRiver Feb 2013 #7
Reliving that rage is important malaise Feb 2013 #9
I just love that stuff too! MoonRiver Feb 2013 #12
Take it from me Cheney's near death over the holidays malaise Feb 2013 #13
Ah, yes, Pinochet. MoonRiver Feb 2013 #14
Generals in Argentina and Chile are still paying malaise Feb 2013 #15
With every promo for this show, she has added the caveat that heads will likely explode! Grammy23 Feb 2013 #10
Can't wait malaise Feb 2013 #11
One correction: johnnyreb Feb 2013 #23
You know what ?....Fuck MSNBC ! RagAss Feb 2013 #16
True Michael Moore did cover it malaise Feb 2013 #17
MSNBC has evolved a lot since that time. MoonRiver Feb 2013 #18
And Olbermann 's original calling out of Rumsfeld. annabanana Feb 2013 #19
Yes! MoonRiver Feb 2013 #20
you are right, of course. Whisp Feb 2013 #21
Ha! LancetChick Feb 2013 #22

malaise

(269,041 posts)
2. It will air on Monday night
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 09:45 AM
Feb 2013

but they've been showing clips - looks really good.
Cheney will probably croak half way through the documentary.

malaise

(269,041 posts)
4. I don't expect them to make the big oil link but they do have
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 10:56 AM
Feb 2013

insiders on the record exposing the hoax.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
5. It was about the oil
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 12:09 PM
Feb 2013

After all. We knew it then, everyone knows it, now. I hope they come right out and document it.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
6. I love Rachel again.
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 12:15 PM
Feb 2013

She, along with most of the MSNBCer were in my 'bad books' ever since that stupid First Debate Performances They Had.

But what she is doing with Hubris, makes me like her all over again. I'm sure she will hit a lot of nails right in their fricken heads.

yay! about time, this is real journalism again. I hope! Yes, she will.

Seeing as McCain and the rest of the felons want to rewrite the history of that illegal war, this is great timing. Unless they heard of this show in progress and wanted to offset it by being assholes about Hagel's appointment as he was against the war.

Interestin'!

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
7. Part of me really wants to watch it, because I know it will be an awesome show and spot on.
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 12:16 PM
Feb 2013

Another part knows all the rage I felt during that time will resurface. I dread experiencing those horrible emotions again. So glad the * reign of terror is over!

malaise

(269,041 posts)
9. Reliving that rage is important
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 12:41 PM
Feb 2013

it's like the pleasure I get watching election night and that Roe melt down orRmoney's 47% clip. These things keep us going.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
12. I just love that stuff too!
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 01:02 PM
Feb 2013

But what still makes me so mad is that those sociopath * war criminals will never face justice, at least not in this world.

Anyway, I will probably at least try to watch the show. If my bp starts going through the roof, might turn it off and wait for the DU commentary.

malaise

(269,041 posts)
13. Take it from me Cheney's near death over the holidays
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 01:04 PM
Feb 2013

is justice. That heartless water boarding fucker of a war criminal is terrified eery minute of the day. The laws of nature do work. What's more Pinochet also thought he would escape.

malaise

(269,041 posts)
15. Generals in Argentina and Chile are still paying
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 01:07 PM
Feb 2013

We may not live to see justice it but these fuckers do pay eventually.
Think about it everyone of them is terrified to leave to US fearing arrest in other parts of the world.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
10. With every promo for this show, she has added the caveat that heads will likely explode!
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 12:56 PM
Feb 2013

I can only imagine the meetings that took place over the making of this documentary and the reaction to it was likely at the top of their list of things to talk about.

This is a boil that has needed lancing for 10 years. A lot of what we'll see will not necessarily be new information, although some of it will be. What will be "new" will be laying it all out to a logical conclusion of what was done to us by the Bush Administration to convince us that we "needed" to go to war in Iraq. Most Americans were duped into it because they listened to Bush/Cheney and their henchmen and the lies they told us were accepted as truth. The few people who actually said aloud that it was BS were ignored and were labeled as "tin foil hatters". And no one wanted to believe that our own government would do this to us. But they did. And this documentary is going to show how they did it.

I think part of her ultimate goal in doing this is to make the case that it REALLY happened, it was not just a theory unbolstered by facts. There are plenty of facts to show that it was a willful and deliberate deception of the American people. And the second thing is to try to help instill a healthy dose of skepticism in the American people to NEVER AGAIN have blind trust, especially when there are others pleading for transparency and openness to the facts. Maybe once it's all out there, people will begin to understand that things like this don't just happen somewhere else, but can happen HERE and right under our noses.

My fondest wish would be for those who pulled this off to be prosecuted for their lies and deceptions. Not holding my breath, but just the fact that this documentary spells it all out helps. At least the people who do not want to believe it will have a harder time defending what happened. I do not think the comments made by Cheney in the past few days just "happened" to have been released. They are deliberate attempts to rewrite history and blunt the impact of this documentary. I hope the American people are smart enough to see through his lies and continued distortions.

And yes, I think a few heads will explode Monday night at 9 p.m. (Eastern) on MSNBC.

johnnyreb

(915 posts)
23. One correction:
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 06:05 PM
Feb 2013

Thank you Grammy23 for expounding this so well. I need to make one correction if I may, and with great respect and deference to your wise words, madam: "The few people who actually said aloud that it was BS were ignored and were labeled as "tin foil hatters""

No. We were called traitors.

RagAss

(13,832 posts)
16. You know what ?....Fuck MSNBC !
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 01:09 PM
Feb 2013

Michael Moore covered this as it was happening in "Fahrenheit 911".
Fuck MSNBC ! They - like CNN and Fox - beat the drums for Bush and that fucking illegal war ! So what is this broadcast all about ?......guilt?

malaise

(269,041 posts)
17. True Michael Moore did cover it
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 01:11 PM
Feb 2013

and what you say is true but that doesn't mean we shouldn't have a documentary exposing the hoax.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
18. MSNBC has evolved a lot since that time.
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 01:17 PM
Feb 2013

To wit, the hiring of Rachel Maddow and Ed Schultz as major commentators.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
21. you are right, of course.
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 03:52 PM
Feb 2013

but Rachel didn't have her show back then.

She might have been a weasel like all of her colleagues and help The Lie, but we can't know.

but yah, I feel what you say. Fuck all those enabling killers. Those big shitshots that think they know everything, like the Brokaws and the Rathers and all the hefties that were panting with orgasmic pleasure whiling being 'patriotic' to the President and country.

fucking fuck fuck liar stupid people.

LancetChick

(272 posts)
22. Ha!
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 04:12 PM
Feb 2013
Those big shitshots that think they know everything, like the Brokaws and the Rathers and all the hefties that were panting with orgasmic pleasure whiling being 'patriotic' to the President and country.

fucking fuck fuck liar stupid people.


That about sums it up for me.

MSNBC has such a big audience now that I have a feeling all those Iraq War revisionists will be watching. John McCain seems especially desperate to defend the war these days. I hope something comes of this documentary, and it doesn't just fade into oblivion, unseen by anyone outside the Progressive community.
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