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boston bean

(36,221 posts)
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 08:09 PM Feb 2013

Racist father forbid AA nurse to handle new baby ~Hospital obliges

A nurse is suing a hospital, claiming it agreed to man's request that no African-Americans care for his baby.

The lawsuit accuses managers at Hurley Medical Center in Flint of reassigning Tonya Battle, who has worked at the facility for 25 years, based on the color of her skin.

The man approached Battle, while she was caring for his child in the hospital's neonatal intensive care unit, asking to speak to her supervisor, according to the complaint filed in January by Battle's attorney.

She pointed the charge nurse in his direction.

The man, who is not named in the filing, allegedly showed her a tattoo that may have been "a swastika of some kind" and told her that he didn't want African-Americans involved in his baby's care.


http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/16/us/michigan-hospital-discrimination/index.html

WTF! How could the hospital allow this, and why does the racist asshole father get to keep his anonymity?
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Racist father forbid AA nurse to handle new baby ~Hospital obliges (Original Post) boston bean Feb 2013 OP
Good questions. I would like to know too. Let him take his kid to a KKK hospital. MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #1
That happened to my sister 50 years ago madashelltoo Feb 2013 #2
not following. boston bean Feb 2013 #3
My sister was African American nurse madashelltoo Feb 2013 #10
Discussed yesterday. elleng Feb 2013 #4
would you like me to delete for dupe? nt boston bean Feb 2013 #5
No, not at all. elleng Feb 2013 #6
Boggling if the allegations are true. Why would the hospital think DirkGently Feb 2013 #7
My first concern JimDandy Feb 2013 #8
We can't cower in fear every time someone has a scary tattoo. Nine Feb 2013 #17
There were two opposing principles at play here. JimDandy Feb 2013 #21
The CNN article in the OP plus this one: Nine Feb 2013 #27
The hospital really did screw up. JimDandy Feb 2013 #30
There's already the same thread elsewhere. n/t. OceanEcosystem Feb 2013 #9
Something that egregious needs as many threads as it takes to make the even known. shraby Feb 2013 #11
I didn't see the other thread, but I saw this one lunatica Feb 2013 #29
Same here. JimDandy Feb 2013 #31
What was this dad afraid of? That it'd rub off? calimary Feb 2013 #12
Disgraceful on the part of hospital management magical thyme Feb 2013 #13
They allow it because he's the father. Deep13 Feb 2013 #14
It was well established in the other thread that the hospital had no such obligation to the father. Nine Feb 2013 #16
Well, I didn't see the other thread. Deep13 Feb 2013 #24
Well, that's why I was providing the information again. Nine Feb 2013 #26
I remember being shocked at a fellow employee at a bank where I worked angstlessk Feb 2013 #15
Employers are not allowed to discriminate to appease racist customers. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #18
+1 uponit7771 Feb 2013 #25
Yup, as I said in the other thread obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #28
FFS. Someone tell SFB skin color can't be passed on. Can't believe he got away with this! freshwest Feb 2013 #19
The hospital should have Ilsa Feb 2013 #20
I'd obliged him and his baby right out to the fucking gutter RB TexLa Feb 2013 #22
Dumbass racist-come-lately. That would be considered fucked up even in the Antebellum South! Tom Ripley Feb 2013 #23

madashelltoo

(1,698 posts)
2. That happened to my sister 50 years ago
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 08:19 PM
Feb 2013

At Children's Hospital of Philadelphia and they did NOT side with the parent. She had one child who was so afraid of the African American staff members they had to find him everytime they needed to treat him. Ignorance never dies. Just ignorant people.

madashelltoo

(1,698 posts)
10. My sister was African American nurse
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 08:51 PM
Feb 2013

In this situation more than once 50 years ago. White family members often complained and were outright rude to African American doctors, nurses, aides, etc. They were also rude to other minorities who worked there too. The hospital did not shift staff, especially for critical care patients, like NICU babies.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
7. Boggling if the allegations are true. Why would the hospital think
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 08:27 PM
Feb 2013

... for a second this wouldn't be racial discrimination? "No, we won't do that. No, we're not sorry. Your move, Nazi Dad."

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
8. My first concern
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 08:33 PM
Feb 2013

would be the safety of a A-A employee, if someone showed me a swastika tatoo (an implied threat) and demanded that the A-A employee not care for his child. I suspect that some law prohibited the hospital from discharging the child as a response to his father's threat. I don't know if they could have prohibited the father from entering the hospital as a solution to the problem.

Apparently, the nurse felt they should have let her continue to care for the child even under threat of harm to herself. I hoped they reassigned her for her safety and not any other reason. Looks like a law suit for the hospital was in the making no matter what choice they made.


Nine

(1,741 posts)
17. We can't cower in fear every time someone has a scary tattoo.
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 11:25 PM
Feb 2013

Nor should we compromise our principles and break the law. If he's a threat, call the police. And the nurse who is suing was not the only black nurse on staff. Everyone was affected by this.

I could see reassigning as an emergency measure just until they could speak to security and hospital lawyer and other relevant supervisors, but this went on for much longer than just a shift or two. This continued unofficially for a whole month even after the hospital's own lawyer said it was illegal.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
21. There were two opposing principles at play here.
Sun Feb 17, 2013, 12:23 AM
Feb 2013

Safety FIRST! The threat was real.

"I could see reassigning as an emergency measure just until they could speak to security and hospital lawyer and other relevant supervisors, but this went on for much longer than just a shift or two. This continued unofficially for a whole month even after the hospital's own lawyer said it was illegal."

Didn't know this. I totally agree. Where did you find that info?

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
30. The hospital really did screw up.
Sun Feb 17, 2013, 04:32 PM
Feb 2013

Taking care of an immediate threat is one thing, but weeks of pandering to the father--good grief!

"ABC12 has obtained a copy of a note the lawsuit claims was prominently posted on the assignment clipboard. It reads "Please, No African American Nurses to care for Baby per Dad's request. Thank you."

At some point after, according to the lawsuit, a Hurley attorney advised the nurse manager they couldn't do what they were doing and the father was told his request could not continue.

"After that, there still was this practice to discriminate against the African American employees and no African American nurses cared for that baby," said Julie Gafkay, who is the attorney for the nurse who is suing."


Hope she wins big.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
11. Something that egregious needs as many threads as it takes to make the even known.
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 09:12 PM
Feb 2013

Whether 1 or 20 threads, it makes no difference if someone hasn't seen it yet.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
29. I didn't see the other thread, but I saw this one
Sun Feb 17, 2013, 10:35 AM
Feb 2013

I would have missed it altogether. Such is the nature of DU. Threads sink.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
31. Same here.
Sun Feb 17, 2013, 06:42 PM
Feb 2013

More exposure of an injustice can never hurt. The old marketing saw on effective frequency fits here: It takes a certain number of exposures to a message "before a response is made and before exposure is considered wasteful".

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
13. Disgraceful on the part of hospital management
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 09:29 PM
Feb 2013

Per the article, they placed a note on the baby's chart specifying no African American staff to attend.

Left it there for a month before their law dept. found out and forced them to remove it and at long last tell the racist pig father they couldn't honor his demand.

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
14. They allow it because he's the father.
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 10:34 PM
Feb 2013

Yeah, it's reprehensible and I feel bad for that kid to be growing up with hateful values, but the hospital has to respect the wished of the parents.

Nine

(1,741 posts)
16. It was well established in the other thread that the hospital had no such obligation to the father.
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 11:16 PM
Feb 2013

The hospital lawyer said as much. The hospital officially stopped the practice after the hospital lawyer instructed them to, but unofficially it continued for another month.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
15. I remember being shocked at a fellow employee at a bank where I worked
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 11:04 PM
Feb 2013

she stated she wanted to become a teacher..and in the same breath she declared she had been to the emergency room and there was a Chinese (Asian) doctor and she felt his head was too small to contain a brain smart enough to be a doctor...and felt she should have an American doctor to care for her..

Like I said I was shocked.....she wanted to be a TEACHER!

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
20. The hospital should have
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 11:53 PM
Feb 2013

staffed the neonatal nursery entirely (as much as possible) with AA nurses on as many shifts until baby was discharged. That might have changed the game on him.

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