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CatWoman

(79,302 posts)
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 12:31 AM Feb 2013

McCain Jeered At Town Hall After Opposing Mass Deportation

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) got an earful from his constituents in his home state while defending his bipartisan immigration plan at a town hall.

According to the Associated Press, an "angry crowd" reacted negatively as McCain described his proposal to grant a path to citizenship for many of the country's estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants. From their writeup:

“There are 11 million people living here illegally,” he said. “We are not going to get enough buses to deport them.”

Some audience members shouted out their disapproval.

One man yelled that only guns would discourage illegal immigration. Another man complained that illegal immigrants should never be able to become citizens or vote. A third man said illegal immigrants were illiterate invaders who wanted free government benefits.

McCain urged compassion. “We are a Judeo-Christian nation,” he said. McCain’s other town hall meeting took place in Green Valley, south of Tucson.


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McCain Jeered At Town Hall After Opposing Mass Deportation (Original Post) CatWoman Feb 2013 OP
It's not my job to defend John McCain bluestateguy Feb 2013 #1
+1 sasha031 Feb 2013 #4
It's like when the Tea party haters went to Glenn Beck's rally SaveAmerica Feb 2013 #6
+2 ellisonz Feb 2013 #7
I bet they would have cheered slave labor nobodyspecial Feb 2013 #2
It was hard on McCain when Lincoln took away his slaves. tclambert Feb 2013 #36
Why is anyone surprised that racist, bigoted xenophobes are Arizona's voter base? Initech Feb 2013 #3
McCain always has a hard time dealing with Über nut jobs MrScorpio Feb 2013 #5
"11 million." Always "11 million." It's been more than 25 years since Reagan gave a one-time AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2013 #8
The Right Wing Playbook on Immigration Reform: Strategy 6: Stop Reform by Shouting 'Amnesty' pampango Feb 2013 #14
"We are a Judeo-Christian nation" AsahinaKimi Feb 2013 #9
Arbitrary term Islamophobes love to use Scootaloo Feb 2013 #12
That about sums it up Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #13
The "Judeo-Christians" at the meeting probably want to feed the immigrants to the lions Jack Rabbit Feb 2013 #19
I am certainly glad AsahinaKimi Feb 2013 #20
We're only Judeo-Christian out of necessity. Ganja Ninja Feb 2013 #24
I was rather surprised McCain AsahinaKimi Feb 2013 #25
To appeal to hawkish pro-Israel neocons Populist_Prole Feb 2013 #27
It's a Ten Commandments reference jberryhill Feb 2013 #29
I don't see how that connects to the phrase AsahinaKimi Feb 2013 #30
Because he wasn't talking to you jberryhill Feb 2013 #33
gotcha AsahinaKimi Feb 2013 #35
What is with Arizona anyway? BainsBane Feb 2013 #10
SB 1070... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #22
Also a huge influx of angry old white retirees from elsewhere Populist_Prole Feb 2013 #37
John McCain helped to create this monster in 2008 Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #11
What a pity lunatica Feb 2013 #15
+1 LondonReign2 Feb 2013 #42
LOL. They really are hostages of their hateful, creepy constituency. nc4bo Feb 2013 #16
"you guys fed and nutured it and now it's all grown up." Plucketeer Feb 2013 #18
In other news: Dr Frankenstein's monster tries to eat his brain. JoePhilly Feb 2013 #17
In 08 he had to deal with the 'he's a muslim' crazy lady AgingAmerican Feb 2013 #21
Yup. If the fabled librul media really was, the Tea Party wouldn't exist. freshwest Feb 2013 #39
Sounds like crazy "Obama is an Arab" lady cloned herself.... msanthrope Feb 2013 #23
Ever see the episode of "Sliders" called, "California Reich"? Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #26
Thinking this isn't going to play out well for the bigger tent slogans. Sheepshank Feb 2013 #28
The RNC actually thinks that its bigoted, elderly White base is going to change, just because Ikonoklast Feb 2013 #31
Nice post. Their base is not changing their attitudes just because it suits the RNC. n/t pampango Feb 2013 #38
Hey, John! If you want to avoid such confrontations KansDem Feb 2013 #32
You lay down with dogs AnnieBW Feb 2013 #34
Poor McCain doesn't have the heart to tell those people that they served their purpose and........ W T F Feb 2013 #40
The created the "monster" now it's taken over and Raine Feb 2013 #41
McCain Was Not In Bed With Kennedy Caeser67 Feb 2013 #43

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
1. It's not my job to defend John McCain
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 12:36 AM
Feb 2013

Somebody else can do that.

He cast his lot with these people and solicited their support in 2008 and 2010, so now he has made his bed.

SaveAmerica

(5,342 posts)
6. It's like when the Tea party haters went to Glenn Beck's rally
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 02:10 AM
Feb 2013

ready to hate the black man like they'd been promised but were disappointed with a koombayah rally. You reap what you so, Republicans. You keep piling on the hatred and racism and you build this kind of constituency.

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
36. It was hard on McCain when Lincoln took away his slaves.
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 06:00 PM
Feb 2013

Is it OK to make "old" jokes about McCain? Because he's, you know, OLD.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
5. McCain always has a hard time dealing with Über nut jobs
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 01:05 AM
Feb 2013

I hope that he enjoys the privilege from being a Republican that it gives him.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
8. "11 million." Always "11 million." It's been more than 25 years since Reagan gave a one-time
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 02:31 AM
Feb 2013

amnesty. Yet, year after year the number is "11 million." Why is that?

pampango

(24,692 posts)
14. The Right Wing Playbook on Immigration Reform: Strategy 6: Stop Reform by Shouting 'Amnesty'
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 09:39 AM
Feb 2013
Opponents of any legislation that would provide an earned path to citizenship grabbed onto the word "amnesty" and plastered it even on legislation that required fines and significant other requirements for law-abiding immigrants to earn a path to citizenship. Decrying "amnesty" became a way to oppose any reform short of mass deportation without saying so directly, and we should expect "no amnesty" to be a rallying cry of those who oppose any responsible approach to reform. Indeed, Pat Buchanan has written, "'Comprehensive' is the code word for amnesty." He has insisted that "America is now risking national suicide…if a path to citizenship becomes law, nothing will stop the next invasion."

In early 2007, some Republicans waged a campaign to try to keep then-Sen. Mel Martinez of Florida from becoming chairman of the GOP based on his support for comprehensive reform. The anti-Martinez organizing led RNC member Paul Senft to complain, "With some people, the issue of amnesty is a litmus test and anything short of a concentration camp is amnesty."

In 2007, as the 2008 presidential primary campaigns were getting under way, Politico said, "Political pandering was at a peak during a recent Republican presidential forum in New Hamsphire. Most of the 10 GOP White House hopefuls blasted the Senate bill as 'amnesty,' even though it calls for a steep path to legalization for most of the 21 million illegal immigrants."

http://www.pfaw.org/rww-in-focus/previewing-the-right-wing-playbook-immigration-reform#strategy6
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
12. Arbitrary term Islamophobes love to use
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 05:39 AM
Feb 2013

He was trying to soothe the angry crowd by playing on their hate for Muslims, since he was failing with their hate of Mexicans.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
13. That about sums it up
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 05:42 AM
Feb 2013

It reminds me of 2008 when that batshit crazy lady decided to chime in at his town hall. McCain essentially said Obama is not an Arab, he's a good man.

As if there's something inherently wrong with being Arab.

McCain is a bigot.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
19. The "Judeo-Christians" at the meeting probably want to feed the immigrants to the lions
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 01:34 PM
Feb 2013

Next, they'll propose a religious test where one must be "Judeo-Christian" in order to immigrate to the US, with the stipulation that Hispanic Catholics are not Christians.

These are right wing morons who believe that anyone who teaches universal love is a wimp.

When I see these people I thank God that the US is not a Judeo-Christian nation.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
20. I am certainly glad
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 01:38 PM
Feb 2013

Its not a Judeo Christian nation.. I can hear it now.."We'll send that Buddha Bitch right back to CHINA!". stupid morons.

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
24. We're only Judeo-Christian out of necessity.
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 01:49 PM
Feb 2013

If the Bible didn't say that Israel would win in the final battle between good and evil we wouldn't give a damn about them Jews either. In fact they would be #1 on the hate list since they killed Jesus. The Bible can be damned inconvenient sometimes.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
25. I was rather surprised McCain
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 01:52 PM
Feb 2013

Mentioned "Judeo" in the first place. Most Bigots wouldn't have bothered.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
27. To appeal to hawkish pro-Israel neocons
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 02:12 PM
Feb 2013

Gotta keep the stakes well grounded to hold the "big tent" in place.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
29. It's a Ten Commandments reference
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 02:34 PM
Feb 2013

8 “Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns.

----

It suggests by implication that a "foreigner residing in your town" is entitled to at least some rights.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
30. I don't see how that connects to the phrase
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 02:46 PM
Feb 2013

"We're a Judeo~Christian Nation". He is talking about the United States of America. Not some biblical land somewhere. And, since when did Republican Tea partiers ever rate a foreigner any Rights? They would sooner ship them back to where they came. They obviously have never understood the words in-scripted on the Statue of Liberty. (Of course, She's not a Christian symbol.. but she's sacred to the ideals of this nation.)

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
33. Because he wasn't talking to you
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 04:14 PM
Feb 2013

It was meant in the same vein as Gov. Perry's "have a heart" supplication to the debate audience when he was talking about treatment of illegal aliens.

Sometimes one can attempt use appeals to people's prejudices in a constructive way.

No, the US has no official religion or religious philosophy. We all understand that.

McCain's audience here certainly doesn't agree with that, and would indeed assert that the US is a "Judeo Christian" country. These types of Bible bangers are quite familiar not only to the "stranger within thy gates" reference in the Ten Commandments, but with Old Testament laws in general on the subject of safe conduct of peaceful strangers, the right of sanctuary, etc.

I suppose one can just say to such an audience "Hey, you are full of shit" and end the conversation, but reminding them that there are themes within their own professed religious beliefs which conflict with their behavior is not a bad thing.

BainsBane

(53,072 posts)
10. What is with Arizona anyway?
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 05:17 AM
Feb 2013

Is it all the Northern migrants who are so xenophobic and racist? I lived in Texas, and while there certainly is prejudice against Latinos, it's not to this degree.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
37. Also a huge influx of angry old white retirees from elsewhere
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 06:09 PM
Feb 2013

They're fairly wealthy as a group and mean as hell overall.

The quintessential "I got mine" angry old white guys.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
15. What a pity
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 09:43 AM
Feb 2013

snicker

The very people he's been pandering to are kicking his ass for not being meaner.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
42. +1
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 11:26 PM
Feb 2013

McCain sold his sole multiple times, all in order to stay in power. Now he is reaping what he sewed. Tough luck John, these are the assholes you wanted to support you.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
16. LOL. They really are hostages of their hateful, creepy constituency.
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 09:45 AM
Feb 2013

I guess it's what happens when you give a certain type of people more power than they should ever have been given in the first place.

Suck it up Johnny Boy - your party has lost control of the monster it created. Instead of crushing it's ugly neck in its infancy, you guys fed and nutured it and now it's all grown up.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
18. "you guys fed and nutured it and now it's all grown up."
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 01:20 PM
Feb 2013

And it doesn't know enough not to eat itself!

LOL..... McCain is proof that being a "hero" and thereby being a logical leader is NOT a natural progression.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
21. In 08 he had to deal with the 'he's a muslim' crazy lady
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 01:40 PM
Feb 2013

Now the whole GOP are the crazy lady, McCain included.

Funny that the audience spew RW talking points at him. 25 years of 'the librul media' have devolved the GOP into an alternate reality where talking points have replaced all factual knowlege.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
39. Yup. If the fabled librul media really was, the Tea Party wouldn't exist.
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 09:55 PM
Feb 2013

They're a function of billionaire crankpots buying up all the media outlets to promote their failed ideology with their 'fair and balanced' networks - plural. They ran off anyone that was centrist and gave the viewers the illusion that the Birchers and the Tea Party were mainstream. Everytime one of their inoculated against reason and fact followers acts out on their hateful ideas, they call 'em nuts. Uh, huh, they own this stuff. I am old enough to remember when we had a liberal media. The world was a better place then, I think, mentally.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
26. Ever see the episode of "Sliders" called, "California Reich"?
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 02:01 PM
Feb 2013

That is what these people want.



Hauled off the streets for being non-white and deported.

Some would like to open fire on anyone who isn't white on sight. (Goddamn gubmunt says that's "wrong" though.)

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
28. Thinking this isn't going to play out well for the bigger tent slogans.
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 02:28 PM
Feb 2013

How is the GOP ever going to convince immigrants that they are the party that is the most recent welcoming committee, with constituents like the one quoted in the article?

They may as well look for other voting blocks starting today.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
31. The RNC actually thinks that its bigoted, elderly White base is going to change, just because
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 03:36 PM
Feb 2013

they suddenly see that without the Hispanic vote, they are doomed as a party.

Their base will transition, all right...from the land of the living into the graveyard, and not be replaced by anyone at the voting booth.

If they remain static for just ten years regarding attracting a new, wider base of voters, the Republican Party is in permanent minority status nationwide.

They are almost in full panic mode, right now.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
32. Hey, John! If you want to avoid such confrontations
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 03:41 PM
Feb 2013

Stay away from town halls in places were golf carts are a primary form of transportation!


W T F

(1,148 posts)
40. Poor McCain doesn't have the heart to tell those people that they served their purpose and........
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 10:33 PM
Feb 2013

He's done pandering to them.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
41. The created the "monster" now it's taken over and
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 11:14 PM
Feb 2013

there is no way to control it. Good luck on trying to change even the image you have Goopers, the monster will never let you!

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