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Snake Alchemist

(3,318 posts)
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 09:39 AM Jan 2012

Do we have any style anymore?

My grandfather wore a tie and wingtips until the day he tied. Before going out he would put on his trench coat and fedora.

I look back at the suits in the 50's, the Beatle boots (I actually have mine on right now) in the 60's, the funky window pane suits of the 70's and I wonder if we've lost all of our style.

Sweat pants that have "Juicy" plastered on the rear just don't do it for me. End of rant.

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Do we have any style anymore? (Original Post) Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 OP
We do. It just sucks. chrisa Jan 2012 #1
Too true. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #3
"Style" is hard to sell during a (de)repression. Plus we're in a natural period of change Stinky The Clown Jan 2012 #2
I offer that the examples you state are not 'style' they were 'fashion' and the two things Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #33
I honestly can't think of anything less important. nt bowens43 Jan 2012 #5
I tend to agree. Go to the mall or grocery--Americans look TERRIBLE. Romulox Jan 2012 #6
love seeing chicks in their pajama bottoms at grocery stores blueamy66 Jan 2012 #7
Yes. And wearing things that look like bedroom slippers instead of shoes. TwilightGardener Jan 2012 #10
AMEN blueamy66 Jan 2012 #14
Uggs--don't get me started. Why do teenage girls think they're attractive? Why do they want TwilightGardener Jan 2012 #27
I have to admit that I own a pair of pink Uggs that I spent blueamy66 Jan 2012 #35
I wear Pajama Jeans. Ultra comfortable. RebelOne Jan 2012 #37
"And get off my lawn too!" MadHound Jan 2012 #8
You say "old and crochety" like those were bad things. trof Jan 2012 #11
Oh come on.... blueamy66 Jan 2012 #15
Just about as much as I notice people who dress in a suit and tie, MadHound Jan 2012 #18
I AM ancient....all of 45 years blueamy66 Jan 2012 #36
Hey Sonny you keep talking like that I'mma hit you with mah cane chrisa Jan 2012 #26
LOL! MadHound Jan 2012 #28
Yoga pants in, sweat pants out Johonny Jan 2012 #9
No Marrah_G Jan 2012 #12
Hah...mine too! pipi_k Jan 2012 #20
I am the anti-stereotypical gay man HillWilliam Jan 2012 #57
Yeah, you folks were just so "stylin' " snooper2 Jan 2012 #13
At least they look like they made some effort, albeit misguided. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #16
Hey!!! pipi_k Jan 2012 #22
Wow! When were supermarket aisles that wide? SharonAnn Jan 2012 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author Bunny Jan 2012 #17
People are being trained to become serfs LiberalEsto Jan 2012 #19
Ding Ding Ding! dogknob Jan 2012 #21
Good lord. tabasco Jan 2012 #38
I agree Tumbulu Jan 2012 #47
I wasn't born yet, but this outdoor concert is striking from that perspective Ruby the Liberal Jan 2012 #23
Clothing is cheap and disposable FarCenter Jan 2012 #24
I wear a black leather vest and cap with a suit and tie. Not often, but my wife likes it. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #25
Last fall I had abdominal surgery and all I could wear afterward was madmom Jan 2012 #29
Style was replaced by mass production of plastic. Javaman Jan 2012 #30
Depends on who you hang out with, these days. Neoma Jan 2012 #31
the 'forever lazy' suit.....aka: adult one-zie. I rest my case. n/t ladywnch Jan 2012 #32
++ 1000!! n/t Johnson20 Jan 2012 #34
Ha ha ha...Reminds me of Colbert's: Coma Cozy: BrendaBrick Jan 2012 #42
To some, style indicates status and class level Spike89 Jan 2012 #39
Status and class level. Precisely. redqueen Jan 2012 #40
I agree Johonny Jan 2012 #45
but do you ever wear pajamas to work or to the store?" blueamy66 Jan 2012 #46
For some reason or other this came to mind when I saw this thread: SomethingFishy Jan 2012 #41
Love it! lunatica Jan 2012 #55
+1. too bad we can't rec a post. hobbit709 Jan 2012 #59
Nothing beats a good posture & being comfortable in your own skin... BrendaBrick Jan 2012 #43
My grandfather, a janitor, wore a suit, tie, and hat to work, changing when he got there. n/t trackfan Jan 2012 #44
Sometimes I think people have lost hope and respect for themselves and it's reflected Raine Jan 2012 #48
dress sweat pants pokerfan Jan 2012 #49
I am going to buy those right now. Those look so comfortable. aSpeckofDust Jan 2012 #51
Those at least look decent. I'm sick Skidmore Jan 2012 #52
Seinfeld pokerfan Jan 2012 #61
Grandpa wore a suit to dinner... tkmorris Jan 2012 #50
Was your grandpa a carpenter? taterguy Jan 2012 #56
My grandmother would say she is indeed impressed lunatica Jan 2012 #53
style! yay! conform! piratefish08 Jan 2012 #54
Consider these "styles" and the answer is NO!: LeftinOH Jan 2012 #58
I wear a bathrobe, long underwear, and a tiger t-shirt to the grocery store. hunter Jan 2012 #60
Today, this thread makes me think of The Dude. redqueen Jan 2012 #62
My mother was into overdressing. Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2012 #63
My mother wore bell bottoms and my father had leisure suits. Jennicut Jan 2012 #64
Full-length sun dress, sandals, hair combed straight, no make-up Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2012 #65
My sister had a control freak husband like that. Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2012 #66
I'd be the control freak in this case Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2012 #68
"Style" is subjective. Odin2005 Feb 2012 #69
OMYAC.... n/t xocet Feb 2012 #70

Stinky The Clown

(67,819 posts)
2. "Style" is hard to sell during a (de)repression. Plus we're in a natural period of change
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 09:50 AM
Jan 2012

Our style trends follow cycles like everything else. The depression and the natural period of transition collided. the result has been a slowed transition due to people being reluctant to buy style for the sake of style.

The iconic styles to site were much more noticeable in hindsight.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
4. I offer that the examples you state are not 'style' they were 'fashion' and the two things
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 10:06 AM
Jan 2012

are not at all the same. Style is great, fashion is not.

Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #4)

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
7. love seeing chicks in their pajama bottoms at grocery stores
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 10:46 AM
Jan 2012

Really? You can't pull on a pair of jeans? Really?

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
10. Yes. And wearing things that look like bedroom slippers instead of shoes.
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 10:54 AM
Jan 2012

WTF? Now it's OK to not even bother to get dressed at all.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
27. Uggs--don't get me started. Why do teenage girls think they're attractive? Why do they want
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 11:52 AM
Jan 2012

sweaty feet all day? Why do they want to look like Napoleon Dynamite? When is the skinny/tapered jeans fad going to end? Yes, I am a bewildered middle-aged woman, if you can't tell.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
35. I have to admit that I own a pair of pink Uggs that I spent
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 06:24 PM
Jan 2012

$25 for.

BUT, I only wear them up in the cold country, in the snow.

No freaking way I would wear them here in PHX.

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
8. "And get off my lawn too!"
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 10:49 AM
Jan 2012

Do you realize just how old and crotchety you sound. So people don't dress up to your approval, deal with it.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
15. Oh come on....
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 11:13 AM
Jan 2012

you don't notice chicks in PJs and boots and sweatshirts....who haven't even bathed?

It's called common sense. My Mother may not have had alot of clothes as a child, but she was clean and her clothes were clean and she looked like a star. Kids and young adults these days are a hot mess!

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
18. Just about as much as I notice people who dress in a suit and tie,
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 11:26 AM
Jan 2012

Jeans and a T-shirt who haven't even bathed either. Nor is it all kids and young adults, but older folks as well. It is been with us for years and decades, and will continue to be with us. Some people simply don't like to bathe, for whatever reason.

Geez, you sound positively ancient, "kids this and kids that". Lighten up.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
36. I AM ancient....all of 45 years
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 06:25 PM
Jan 2012

sorry to offend...just cannot stand people that don't give a crap what they look like in public.

My Mother always told me to look my best, cause "you never know who you might run in to".

chrisa

(4,524 posts)
26. Hey Sonny you keep talking like that I'mma hit you with mah cane
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 11:51 AM
Jan 2012

Now kneel in the corner and pray!

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
28. LOL!
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 11:52 AM
Jan 2012

I know I'm old enough to be your brother, and you certainly don't want me prayin'. Who knows what I would call up

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
20. Hah...mine too!
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 11:41 AM
Jan 2012

OK so I'm sitting here wearing black knit stretch pants, a purple sweatshirt hoodie thing missing the hood because I cut it off, white socks with black socks over them (I hate wearing shoes) and a red fleece sweater/jacket.

And that's my more conservative type of outfit...



HillWilliam

(3,310 posts)
57. I am the anti-stereotypical gay man
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 10:32 AM
Jan 2012

I have no fashion sense at all. But when I leave the house, at least what doesn't match is neat and clean.

G'd gives us all a little somethin'

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
22. Hey!!!
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 11:44 AM
Jan 2012

I was always sorry the Nehru jacket thing didn't last longer.

My mom had a weird paisley one I coveted.



Response to Snake Alchemist (Original post)

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
19. People are being trained to become serfs
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 11:36 AM
Jan 2012

The 99% are being led by the media to dress and act like human flotsam, rather than individuals with inherent dignity and a sense of worth.

The foods that are advertised and sold to us are mostly garbage.

We're being dumbed down by the media, and especially by corporatized education.

We're being sold the line that we're very lucky if we get jobs that pay minimum wage.

The less esteem we have for ourselves, and the less sense of worth, the happier our corporate masters are.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
23. I wasn't born yet, but this outdoor concert is striking from that perspective
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 11:44 AM
Jan 2012

Yeah, they are all smoking, but look at how they chose to attire for the event.

This is a classic of Sweet Georgia Brown by Anita O'Day

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1240&pid=14496

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
24. Clothing is cheap and disposable
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 11:47 AM
Jan 2012

Your grandfather probably saved up and made a considerable investment in his wingtips. Clothing that was worn on occasions was expensive and long lasting.

Clothing became cheaper relative to current income, and style became expressed in having the latest colors and fashions, rather than having classic designs.

This has degenerated into throwing on the latest cheap trash from Asia before going out.

http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/photos

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
25. I wear a black leather vest and cap with a suit and tie. Not often, but my wife likes it.
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 11:49 AM
Jan 2012

The vest has two pockets and the pocket watch (on a golden chain) my late grandfather gave me makes a nice finish to the outfit. It's also a lot more convenient than my cell phone for checking the time.

madmom

(9,681 posts)
29. Last fall I had abdominal surgery and all I could wear afterward was
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 12:08 PM
Jan 2012

sweats and such, as in nothing with a zipper. When I went out dressed that way I actually felt embarrassed and hoped with all that was in me that I would not run into anyone I knew. I guess it just goes to how one wants to present oneself to the public.

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
30. Style was replaced by mass production of plastic.
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 12:28 PM
Jan 2012

everything became instant so the need to or want to set yourself apart became more difficult as propaganda to be like everyone else became the mission to control the population.

if you have a nation of individuals with style, you have a harder time controlling them.

However, OWS are bucking that theme by rejecting the propaganda.

Hopefully, soon after, style will return.

Neoma

(10,039 posts)
31. Depends on who you hang out with, these days.
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 12:39 PM
Jan 2012

Honestly, our style is now all over the place. We have 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s, mixed up and confused.

Sometimes I dye my hair blue, wear a hippie skirt and a bowler hat. Sometimes I wear 80s Hawaiian shirts and a pith helmet... Sometimes I just don't give a damn and wear whatever is clean. Which happens to be my tuxedo t-shirt!

Spike89

(1,569 posts)
39. To some, style indicates status and class level
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 07:14 PM
Jan 2012

You may not personally feel that way, but there are some that do. "Dressing for success" is also following directions. A nicely shined pair of expensive dress shoes indicate more about a man than some men want to reveal. There is a real streak of perverse "non-status" in a lot of us.

I do dress for what people expect of me when I'm on the road, but in the office, I wear comfortable shirts, jeans, and most often tennis shoes or boots. I ride a motorcycle to work often and will wear leathers if it's raining. I work in a white collar job (book acquisitions editor) but I don't actually own but one white dress shirt and have worn a tie maybe 3 times in the last 6 months.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
40. Status and class level. Precisely.
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 07:20 PM
Jan 2012

It's one thing to do so for yourself, but dressing 'smart' or 'to impress'? Unless it's job related, it practically screams of shallowness to me.

Johonny

(20,889 posts)
45. I agree
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 09:55 PM
Jan 2012

I person dressed "down" could be wearing 100 $ Lulumon yoga pants, 70 $ sports bra, 125 $ Lulumon sports top and 100-250 $ cross training shoes.

They might look like they aren't dressed for success, but oh their clothes if you know what they are saying tell a different story. And the young people they are trying to impress, know what they are wearing. For the record Victoria Secrets Juicy line is not in style anymore. Yoga outfits are in for casual clothes. Even Victoria Secrets has started selling them. Depending on the designer, they aren't cheap.

Do people still dress up... yeah go to a night club or a good restaurant and in general they do. The difference between now and 1950s is 1950s T-shirts and sweat pants were cheap and mostly designed as under clothes. Not things that signaled success or designed to be seen. Now modern designer fashion ware they are and are as expensive or more as the casual business suit of the 1950s. If you don't know the designers or the fashions that are in style you might be more dating yourself than actually understanding that these people ARE dressed well. The material costs of some of these things is very high, the sales cost is even more.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
46. but do you ever wear pajamas to work or to the store?"
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 02:39 AM
Jan 2012

there is a difference between "dressing for success" and "looking like you just rolled outta bed".

BrendaBrick

(1,296 posts)
43. Nothing beats a good posture & being comfortable in your own skin...
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 07:32 PM
Jan 2012

Timeless *style* if ya ask me...after that - whatever floats your boat and allows you to express your own individuality

Raine

(30,540 posts)
48. Sometimes I think people have lost hope and respect for themselves and it's reflected
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 04:30 AM
Jan 2012

in the way they dress. Perhaps the way they feel about themselves inside is reflected in what they show the world. It could be a sign of the times.

pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
49. dress sweat pants
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 05:07 AM
Jan 2012


gizmodo.com/5879654/goodbye-sliced-bread-dress-pant-sweatpants-officially-the-greatest-thing-now

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
52. Those at least look decent. I'm sick
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 08:43 AM
Jan 2012

of prison chic--baggy jeans/pants with underwear and butt hanging out. I'm also sick of the idea that bedhead passes for a hair styling.

pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
61. Seinfeld
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 01:11 PM
Jan 2012

To George: "You know the message you're sending out to the world with these sweatpants? You're telling the world, 'I give up. I can't compete in normal society. I'm miserable, so I might as well be comfortable.'"

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
53. My grandmother would say she is indeed impressed
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 08:52 AM
Jan 2012

with how unimpressive some people are. I imagine she would extend that to style. She was like your grandfather. Style personified.

LeftinOH

(5,358 posts)
58. Consider these "styles" and the answer is NO!:
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 10:44 AM
Jan 2012

From the People of WalMart. Would you ever leave the house looking like this?




 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
63. My mother was into overdressing.
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 01:21 PM
Jan 2012

She was born in 1921.
She said in college they went to football games in a suit, a hat, high heels, and hose. I don't know how they kept from falling down and breaking an ankle on the bleachers.

She gave me horrible stinky perms when I was little so I would have Shirley Temple ringlets. Then the kids made fun of me at school and I came home crying.
When I was older she wanted me to wear severe suits like Joan Crawford.

I got some striped jeans and some bib overalls in high school (early 1970s) and she was horrified. They were not "feminine"!

My dad took me to get a haircut and I got a Jane Fonda shag,like she wore in the movie "Klute". It was in fashion. Mom thought that was really horrible too. She didn't want me to fit in with the other kids.

When I went to college (1972) I wore jeans and t shirts. She got mad at me for not taking any dresses with me to college. I was sick of wearing dresses. I had to wear a dress to school every day for twelve years, even if it was freezing outside. I didn't wear makeup in college either, and had lots of dates, which really pissed her off. She thought I didn't have makeup on unless I had on lipstick. She didn't know about foundation. It was all about red clown lipstick from the 1940s.

The irony is that when I got grown, I got a good haircut and I have thick wavy hair that is beautiful. She couldn't keep from messing with my hair.



Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
64. My mother wore bell bottoms and my father had leisure suits.
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 01:37 PM
Jan 2012

That were orange. I honestly think the time of hideous style was in the 70's. I have photographic proof. My parents and their friends dressed... interesting. Most people dress casually in jeans today. There is nothing wrong with jeans. They are practical and go with anything. I dress up for work but at home it is jeans or leggings.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
65. Full-length sun dress, sandals, hair combed straight, no make-up
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 01:40 PM
Jan 2012

No style here. Yet, hubby says that's when women look best.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
66. My sister had a control freak husband like that.
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 03:52 PM
Jan 2012

I'm not saying your husband is a control freak.

The guy wanted her to not wear any makeup and have long straight hair.

long straight hair does not look good on older women.

Most women need a little bit of spackle to cover up the dark circles under the eyes or whatever.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
68. I'd be the control freak in this case
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 09:38 AM
Feb 2012

I don't feel comfortable dressing much differently. Hubby just likes that look so it works well for us.

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