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RudynJack

(1,044 posts)
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 04:03 AM Feb 2013

I live in a small town...

yesterday two cops were shot and killed by a guy with multiple previous offenses, including firearm offenses.

The murders were half a mile away from me. The suspect was killed right next to my local supermarket.

We've never had a cop killed here. This guy should not have been allowed to have guns. Yet, he had permission to own three guns.

He was a convicted sex offender, he broke firearms laws, and he was still allowed to own guns. When is enough enough?

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I live in a small town... (Original Post) RudynJack Feb 2013 OP
You mean legally allowed to own guns? Mopar151 Feb 2013 #1
The news reports said RudynJack Feb 2013 #2
And I presume RudynJack Feb 2013 #3
it's just collateral damage, RJ Skittles Feb 2013 #4
Maybe I"m just dense... RudynJack Feb 2013 #6
it is terrible Skittles Feb 2013 #17
Ah, I gotcha. RudynJack Mar 2013 #18
Sorry about that - a senseless crime, a damm shame. Mopar151 Feb 2013 #10
He stole the body armor RudynJack Mar 2013 #19
He also stole the two slain officers' guns. TeeYiYi Mar 2013 #23
I'm so sorry for your loss Hekate Feb 2013 #5
Thank you Hekate. RudynJack Feb 2013 #7
I read that story yesterday about the 2 cops life long demo Feb 2013 #8
What RudynJack Feb 2013 #11
Not funny or clever. bluedigger Mar 2013 #20
That is awful RobertEarl Feb 2013 #9
Thanks for RudynJack Feb 2013 #12
Enough was enough many years ago. Warpy Feb 2013 #13
If Scalia thinks SCOTUS should do something Ilsa Feb 2013 #14
There are two small towns in our State that experienced the same thing recently. glinda Feb 2013 #15
Terrible, especially in a small town where the cops were probably respected community members. JaneyVee Feb 2013 #16
Apparently,in America today enough is never enough.... Rowdyboy Mar 2013 #21
I'm still incredibly proud RudynJack Mar 2013 #22

RudynJack

(1,044 posts)
3. And I presume
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 04:12 AM
Feb 2013

you meant to express sorrow for the loss of our peace officers and just forgot to do so. I forgive you.

RudynJack

(1,044 posts)
6. Maybe I"m just dense...
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 04:23 AM
Feb 2013

but I don't know what you mean, Skittles. Is it good or bad that our cops were murdered?

Edit: I think you're being sarcastic. Right?

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
17. it is terrible
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 06:27 PM
Feb 2013

but you will not get sympathy from gun nuts - their paranoia and fear overrides ALL common sense and decency

Mopar151

(9,989 posts)
10. Sorry about that - a senseless crime, a damm shame.
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 04:34 AM
Feb 2013

I still wanna know how a multi-time loser, presumably a felon, can own 3 guns legally. Is this the one (God help us all, they are starting to run together....) with body armor, too?

In a similar case here (Cullen Mutrie, coke/steroid dealer - NH) Mom bought the guns for sonny's last stand, killed a nicest-guy-in-the-world small town police chief.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
5. I'm so sorry for your loss
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 04:21 AM
Feb 2013

Loss of the two cops, who were no doubt known to most of your small town. Loss of your sense of security in your hometown. Loss of your sense of identity with that town.

So much loss, so much grief -- for their families, for the whole town.

There is a madness in our nation. I hope it gets better, that it even heals, in what is left of my lifetime.

Peace to you and yours.

Hekate

RudynJack

(1,044 posts)
7. Thank you Hekate.
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 04:27 AM
Feb 2013

Much appreciated. I had one small encounter with Ms. Butler. Nothing worth claiming friendship over. But my encounter was... nice... she was a good cop.

These murders are hard on our little town.

life long demo

(1,113 posts)
8. I read that story yesterday about the 2 cops
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 04:28 AM
Feb 2013

who were murdered on the steps of the shooters house. So sick and so sad. Then last night saw video of Lindsey Graham berate and insult a police chief at a hearing yesterday. That was sick and sad also. I wonder if Graham is up for election again soon. He is such an ass.

RudynJack

(1,044 posts)
11. What
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 04:34 AM
Feb 2013

I really was hoping for was a giant non-sequitor. thanks.

I came home to find helicopters flying overhead, and the my badger had cold sores. I blame the Portuguese.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
9. That is awful
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 04:33 AM
Feb 2013

Our police hardly ever get the support they deserve much less the pay. So I think I can say at least they died doing what they loved?

We can't turn back time, if we could we'd all make sure the shooter never got a gun. But he did. And what happened will happen again. Just as it has happened time after time. Until we figure a way to keep shooters like that from holding.

Please don't take comments here too personal. Many of us have dealt with war deaths and many other injustices. We've hardened hearts.

Peace to you and your small town.

RudynJack

(1,044 posts)
12. Thanks for
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 04:36 AM
Feb 2013

your last sentence.

I'm not sure I can say anything about the rest. But I appreciate the final sentiment.

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
13. Enough was enough many years ago.
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 04:52 AM
Feb 2013

Don't expect politicians to do anything about it, they're far too frightened of all the mailers the NRA will send out to everyone with a record of buying a gun if they do.

I lived in a placid small town in New England. One of the local cops was shot in the face with a shotgun when he was on patrol. I don't think they ever did find out who did it. The cop lived, thank goodness, he wasn't a bad guy. It just shocks the hell out of everybody when it happens in a small town. Here in the inner city, people expect things like that from time to time.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
14. If Scalia thinks SCOTUS should do something
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 06:50 AM
Feb 2013

About the Voting Rights Act because politicians are too wussed-out politically to make a stand, then SCOTUS should definitely jump on gun control. We know politicians are too frightened to do the right thing.

glinda

(14,807 posts)
15. There are two small towns in our State that experienced the same thing recently.
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:54 PM
Feb 2013

Brings out the "dare" and the "crazy" for sure. Sadly.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
16. Terrible, especially in a small town where the cops were probably respected community members.
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:59 PM
Feb 2013

And where people know them and their families. Gun violence needs to be heavily cracked down.

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
21. Apparently,in America today enough is never enough....
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 02:59 AM
Mar 2013

What a sad shadow of a republic this country has become. I'm nearly 60 and I remember when I was proud of the Democratic party and what it stood for. Today, not so much.

RudynJack

(1,044 posts)
22. I'm still incredibly proud
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 03:01 AM
Mar 2013

of the Democratic Party. The murder of these officers never struck me as a partisan issue.

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