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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/02/28/american-15-year-old-tells-ted-2013-audience-how-he-used-internet-to-invent-early-detection-tool-for-cancer/Jack Andraka catapulted from being a typical US teenager unaware of the pancreas to one with a cheap way to detect cancer in the organ before it turns deadly.
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Andraka, who turned 16 in January, recounted how three years ago he began scouring the Internet for information about pancreatic cancer after it killed a cherished family friend.
He told of being shocked to learn that the cancer was typically found too late to save people. On top of that, the test used to screen for the illness was 60 years old, he said.
That is older than my dad, Andraka quipped. More important, it is expensive, inaccurate, and your doctor would have to be ridiculously suspicious that you had the cancer to give you this test.
He figured what was needed was a test that was inexpensive, fast, simple and sensitive.
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What he found was there were thousands of proteins that could be detected in the blood of people with pancreatic cancer, and he hunted for one that could serve as an early flag for the illness.
Finally, on the 4,000th try when I am losing my sanity, I found the protein, Andraka said.
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He described a recipe for making paper sensors to detect the protein mesothelin in blood that is about as simple as making chocolate chip cookies, which I love.
The test costs three cents, takes minutes, and appears to be 100 percent accurate, according to his TED Talk.
Andraka said he sent out 200 requests to scientists for lab space to continue his work, only to be rejected by all but Johns Hopkins University where he was fiercely grilled before being taken in.
He commenced to fix holes he discovered in his once brilliant procedure and went on to be awarded the 2012 Intel International Science and Engineering Fair grand prize.
Andraka described his approach as having the potential to be tailored to screen for other forms of cancer as well as heart disease or HIV/AIDS.
He told of currently working on something the size of a cube of sugar that could look through your skin and study blood or signs of almost any disease. The cost? An estimated five dollars.
malaise
(269,054 posts)Bravo Andraka!!!
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)through non-medical efforts - people who can compile and analyze information (habits of people who got it)
KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)He just increased their profit margins.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)here's a link to TED
http://talentsearch.ted.com/video/Jack-Andraka-Detecting-pancreat;TEDNew-York
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)so it's the lab industry not pharma.
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)Yes there is a horrendous markup on lab tests. On one test, the lab billed the insurance about $90 for the test, and the negotiated rate for the test was about $6. I was responsible for the $6. Had I no insurance and didn't shop around, I would be on the hook for $90.
So if/when this test becomes available, the lab will charge a much higher amount, and the insurance company will have a (much) lower negotiated rate. If insurance pays for this then they pay less... if you pay you pay less than the standard rate - but much more than 3 cents.
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)grntuscarora
(1,249 posts)He sounds like an amazing young man. My aunt died of pancreatic cancer, this test would've helped her get an earlier diagnosis.
Funny, though, I have a feeling, if big pharma has anything to do with the marketing, the test will cost significantly more than 3 cents.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)kentauros
(29,414 posts)And that's just their cost to providers. Expect another 200-300% markup after that.
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)not a drug so it's not pharma you have to worry about here.
grntuscarora
(1,249 posts)I imagine a mark-up of some kind is inevitable (even the lab companies are profit-driven, no?), but hopefully it will be a very small one!
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)the lab industry is a lot like the hospital industry in that the profit structure is pretty strongly veiled. I don't know what this kid is doing with his invention, if he's patented it he can set the price for license or even give it away kind of like open source software.
Of course it's not as simple as that, he used somebodies research facility, if it's a University they'll have a nice finger in the pie through the tech transfer agreements all University researchers must sign. When I was in grad school I had my name on 3 patents. Including me, my supervisor and a post-doc we had to add the University and the private funding source for the research to the patent. If he used a private lab, or worked as a student in a private lab that lab will have a patent say as well.
When it comes down to it, the test will have to be manufactured by a company specializing in producing the lab test kit. They will jack the price up then sell it to a middleman distributor who'll jack the price up. This then goes to the lab company that carries out the test.
The nice thing here is that it's now pretty well known that this test is a cheap and easy one so publicity will likely keep the cost down... I hope.
Heidi
(58,237 posts)onlyadream
(2,166 posts)Sancho
(9,070 posts)skydive forever
(445 posts)And yeah, it would be a good idea for the kid to avoid small airplanes for a while.
Maineman
(854 posts)The pharmaceutical industry operates in the same corporate for-profit arena as the tobacco industry.
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)not a drug, blame the lab industry if you want.
DaveJ
(5,023 posts)Andraka may be the only one who will ever be able to use this since hospitals probably won't release it. They need to figure out how to make it cost 1000 times more and that could take decades. People might just start doing medical procedures on themselves given the resistance that hospitals in the U.S. are developing against helping people.
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)identifying disease. If he starts coming up with cures instead of treatments, he is dead!
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)The AMA and their partner big Pharma will not allow this. They will fully fund his research and then control the results. I hope he can withstand the pressure., When you think about all the research money NIH gives out in biomedical research projects that ultimately benefit no one you wonder why something this simple has not already been done...years ago? I believe there are many such findings that have been squashed by large grantees or their government handlers, the FDA. The problem with the FDA and other government agencies set up to regulate in our best interests is that there are thousnds of good, smart, decent people who work for these agencies who try their best to do the right thing for the citizens of this country but they are thwarted on every turn by political appointees who run these agencies who are, themselves, controlled by their handlers (big corporations). Many decent career Federal employee have lost jobs and ruined careers when they try to expose mal-practice, abuse, waste and mismanagement.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)I think the capitalist healthcare system will ride the fence on healthcare becoming so expensive that we are on the verge of nationalizing it, then they pull back, suck us back into letting the insurance companies and others bankrupt us.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)K/R
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)OKNancy
(41,832 posts)and another thread last December: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022073020
and last month too - http://www.democraticunderground.com/11427012
backtoblue
(11,343 posts)mostlyconfused
(211 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)to cover more extensive testing, as well as mass production and distribution.
So, that means the test will cost $20 in Europe and $500 in the US.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,366 posts)Thanks for the thread, Laura PourMeADrink.
roxy1234
(117 posts)But unlike this teenager, big pharma has to spend millions of dollars and years dealing with the FDA to make sure whatever test is safe and accurate for general use. My guess is this inventor didnt spend more than $1000 to fully develop his idea.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)lengthy list of all the side effects on their TV ads. This pill may help you quit smoking but you may commit suicide before you finish the dosage
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)This is probably a cancer which could be cured if caught early enough. I hope this is soon used to screen many, it is not an easy death.