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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 08:41 AM Feb 2013

15 Year Old Invents Pancreatic Cancer Test that costs 3 cents

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/02/28/american-15-year-old-tells-ted-2013-audience-how-he-used-internet-to-invent-early-detection-tool-for-cancer/

Jack Andraka catapulted from being a typical US teenager unaware of the pancreas to one with a cheap way to detect cancer in the organ before it turns deadly.

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Andraka, who turned 16 in January, recounted how three years ago he began scouring the Internet for information about pancreatic cancer after it killed a cherished family friend.

He told of being shocked to learn that the cancer was typically found too late to save people. On top of that, the test used to screen for the illness was 60 years old, he said.

“That is older than my dad,” Andraka quipped. “More important, it is expensive, inaccurate, and your doctor would have to be ridiculously suspicious that you had the cancer to give you this test.”

He figured what was needed was a test that was inexpensive, fast, simple and sensitive.


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What he found was there were thousands of proteins that could be detected in the blood of people with pancreatic cancer, and he hunted for one that could serve as an early flag for the illness.

“Finally, on the 4,000th try when I am losing my sanity, I found the protein,” Andraka said.

<snip>

He described a recipe for making paper sensors to detect the protein – mesothelin – in blood that is “about as simple as making chocolate chip cookies, which I love.”

The test costs three cents, takes minutes, and appears to be 100 percent accurate, according to his TED Talk.


Andraka said he sent out 200 requests to scientists for lab space to continue his work, only to be rejected by all but Johns Hopkins University where he was fiercely grilled before being taken in.

He commenced to fix holes he discovered in his “once brilliant procedure” and went on to be awarded the 2012 Intel International Science and Engineering Fair grand prize.

Andraka described his approach as having the potential to be tailored to screen for other forms of cancer as well as heart disease or HIV/AIDS.

He told of currently working on “something the size of a cube of sugar” that could “look through your skin” and study blood or signs of almost any disease. The cost? An estimated five dollars.

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15 Year Old Invents Pancreatic Cancer Test that costs 3 cents (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2013 OP
Big pharma must already have a price on his head malaise Feb 2013 #1
For sure. I have often thought that finding a cure for cancer will be found Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2013 #3
No, they will just use this test method and charge us all $368.20 per screening KurtNYC Feb 2013 #9
Make that "$368.23" KansDem Feb 2013 #21
Aready tried to link to original article....link not working...at least for me. nt kelliekat44 Feb 2013 #14
do you mean the rawstory link? Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2013 #35
It's just a test sharp_stick Feb 2013 #22
Lab charges are not cheap either. mwooldri Feb 2013 #29
Absolutely n/t sharp_stick Feb 2013 #31
That is fantastic. grntuscarora Feb 2013 #2
for sure more than 3 cents. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #4
I figure at least a 10,000% markup. kentauros Feb 2013 #17
It's a test sharp_stick Feb 2013 #23
Good! grntuscarora Feb 2013 #26
It's honestly hard to say sharp_stick Feb 2013 #28
Kick! Heidi Feb 2013 #5
Amazing kid!!! Wow!! Nt onlyadream Feb 2013 #6
I'm sure if your doctor orders this test, it will cost you a few thousand! Sancho Feb 2013 #7
Unless you're on medicare, then it will cost maybe 10 cents skydive forever Feb 2013 #10
Get someone like the Gates Foundation to protect it from big pharma! Maineman Feb 2013 #8
It's a test sharp_stick Feb 2013 #24
There could be a 'self surgery' trend if out healthcare costs aren't resolved. DaveJ Feb 2013 #11
Big Pharma will snap him up! He will be set for life as long as he continues along this line of Dustlawyer Feb 2013 #12
This will never be allowed mto become a widespread use in healthcare. It's too cheap, kelliekat44 Feb 2013 #13
I lean towards agreeing with you on this. Ilsa Feb 2013 #25
Fantastic! NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #15
K&R. This kid is going to CURE cancer someday. bullwinkle428 Feb 2013 #16
I remember reading about him last year on DU OKNancy Feb 2013 #18
kick n rec. nt backtoblue Feb 2013 #19
His TED talks mostlyconfused Feb 2013 #20
there will have to be some sort of markup NewJeffCT Feb 2013 #27
Terrific brain power, K&R. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2013 #30
Bring this up next time somebody uses the "Stupid 'Mericans" line snooper2 Feb 2013 #32
What a brilliant, dedicated young man! Uncle Joe Feb 2013 #33
I see a lot of people unfairly bashing big pharma roxy1234 Feb 2013 #34
What's funny about what you say " big Pharma caring about safety" is hearing the Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2013 #36
This is great news, I have lost 4 great friends to pancreatic cancer in theclast few years. Thinkingabout Feb 2013 #37
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
3. For sure. I have often thought that finding a cure for cancer will be found
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 08:58 AM
Feb 2013

through non-medical efforts - people who can compile and analyze information (habits of people who got it)

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
9. No, they will just use this test method and charge us all $368.20 per screening
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 09:38 AM
Feb 2013

He just increased their profit margins.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
29. Lab charges are not cheap either.
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 11:25 AM
Feb 2013

Yes there is a horrendous markup on lab tests. On one test, the lab billed the insurance about $90 for the test, and the negotiated rate for the test was about $6. I was responsible for the $6. Had I no insurance and didn't shop around, I would be on the hook for $90.

So if/when this test becomes available, the lab will charge a much higher amount, and the insurance company will have a (much) lower negotiated rate. If insurance pays for this then they pay less... if you pay you pay less than the standard rate - but much more than 3 cents.

grntuscarora

(1,249 posts)
2. That is fantastic.
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 08:53 AM
Feb 2013

He sounds like an amazing young man. My aunt died of pancreatic cancer, this test would've helped her get an earlier diagnosis.

Funny, though, I have a feeling, if big pharma has anything to do with the marketing, the test will cost significantly more than 3 cents.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
17. I figure at least a 10,000% markup.
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 10:22 AM
Feb 2013

And that's just their cost to providers. Expect another 200-300% markup after that.

grntuscarora

(1,249 posts)
26. Good!
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 11:06 AM
Feb 2013

I imagine a mark-up of some kind is inevitable (even the lab companies are profit-driven, no?), but hopefully it will be a very small one!

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
28. It's honestly hard to say
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 11:20 AM
Feb 2013

the lab industry is a lot like the hospital industry in that the profit structure is pretty strongly veiled. I don't know what this kid is doing with his invention, if he's patented it he can set the price for license or even give it away kind of like open source software.

Of course it's not as simple as that, he used somebodies research facility, if it's a University they'll have a nice finger in the pie through the tech transfer agreements all University researchers must sign. When I was in grad school I had my name on 3 patents. Including me, my supervisor and a post-doc we had to add the University and the private funding source for the research to the patent. If he used a private lab, or worked as a student in a private lab that lab will have a patent say as well.

When it comes down to it, the test will have to be manufactured by a company specializing in producing the lab test kit. They will jack the price up then sell it to a middleman distributor who'll jack the price up. This then goes to the lab company that carries out the test.

The nice thing here is that it's now pretty well known that this test is a cheap and easy one so publicity will likely keep the cost down... I hope.

skydive forever

(445 posts)
10. Unless you're on medicare, then it will cost maybe 10 cents
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 09:43 AM
Feb 2013

And yeah, it would be a good idea for the kid to avoid small airplanes for a while.

Maineman

(854 posts)
8. Get someone like the Gates Foundation to protect it from big pharma!
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 09:32 AM
Feb 2013

The pharmaceutical industry operates in the same corporate for-profit arena as the tobacco industry.

DaveJ

(5,023 posts)
11. There could be a 'self surgery' trend if out healthcare costs aren't resolved.
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 09:46 AM
Feb 2013

Andraka may be the only one who will ever be able to use this since hospitals probably won't release it. They need to figure out how to make it cost 1000 times more and that could take decades. People might just start doing medical procedures on themselves given the resistance that hospitals in the U.S. are developing against helping people.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
12. Big Pharma will snap him up! He will be set for life as long as he continues along this line of
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 09:54 AM
Feb 2013

identifying disease. If he starts coming up with cures instead of treatments, he is dead!

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
13. This will never be allowed mto become a widespread use in healthcare. It's too cheap,
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 09:58 AM
Feb 2013

The AMA and their partner big Pharma will not allow this. They will fully fund his research and then control the results. I hope he can withstand the pressure., When you think about all the research money NIH gives out in biomedical research projects that ultimately benefit no one you wonder why something this simple has not already been done...years ago? I believe there are many such findings that have been squashed by large grantees or their government handlers, the FDA. The problem with the FDA and other government agencies set up to regulate in our best interests is that there are thousnds of good, smart, decent people who work for these agencies who try their best to do the right thing for the citizens of this country but they are thwarted on every turn by political appointees who run these agencies who are, themselves, controlled by their handlers (big corporations). Many decent career Federal employee have lost jobs and ruined careers when they try to expose mal-practice, abuse, waste and mismanagement.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
25. I lean towards agreeing with you on this.
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 11:01 AM
Feb 2013

I think the capitalist healthcare system will ride the fence on healthcare becoming so expensive that we are on the verge of nationalizing it, then they pull back, suck us back into letting the insurance companies and others bankrupt us.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
27. there will have to be some sort of markup
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 11:17 AM
Feb 2013

to cover more extensive testing, as well as mass production and distribution.

So, that means the test will cost $20 in Europe and $500 in the US.

 

roxy1234

(117 posts)
34. I see a lot of people unfairly bashing big pharma
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:55 PM
Feb 2013

But unlike this teenager, big pharma has to spend millions of dollars and years dealing with the FDA to make sure whatever test is safe and accurate for general use. My guess is this inventor didnt spend more than $1000 to fully develop his idea.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
36. What's funny about what you say " big Pharma caring about safety" is hearing the
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 08:33 PM
Feb 2013

lengthy list of all the side effects on their TV ads. This pill may help you quit smoking but you may commit suicide before you finish the dosage

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
37. This is great news, I have lost 4 great friends to pancreatic cancer in theclast few years.
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 10:08 PM
Feb 2013

This is probably a cancer which could be cured if caught early enough. I hope this is soon used to screen many, it is not an easy death.

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