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As unarmed 42-year-old Eddie McKee allegedly ran from an Orange City Walmart with stolen merchandise, 35-year-old Jose Martinez pulled out his gun and fired at least five bullets, according to WKMG.
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Bullets riddled McKees vehicle, hitting the trunk and shattering the back window. Two other cars were also hit by gunfire.
Martinez told WKMG that he was shocked that police arrested him because he thought no one other than the shoplifter was in danger. He said he just wanted to mark the mans car for police.
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a good guy with a gun
leveymg
(36,418 posts)CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)All super heroes in waiting. How long till one of these heroes kills a few innocent bystanders.
Aldo Leopold
(685 posts)or some other idiot who thinks he is trying to stop a bad guy. Imagine the chain reaction that can develop in a situation such as this.
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)Every person mistaken for an intruder by a loved one and killed would qualify as an innocent bystander.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)We need IQ TESTS for gun owners.
cliffordu
(30,994 posts)libodem
(19,288 posts)Exactly. Literacy tests should not just be for voters.
stillcool
(32,626 posts)Aldo Leopold
(685 posts)team this story w/ the one about the ammo stored in the OVEN; girlfriend fires up the oven, girlfriend gets shot .....and the gun rolling around the floor of some guy's truck along w/ his rolling around dog, dog steps on trigger, guy gets shot - Yea, an I.Q. test is a requirement to own a gun.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)Last edited Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:48 PM - Edit history (1)
"I'm only shooting my gun in a parking lot full of cars and people at a guy who stole some cheap dollar bin crap from Walmart! "
"Was that wrong? Should I not have done that? I tell you, I gotta plead ignorence on this thing, because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started shooting my gun that that sort of thing is frowned upon...."
arcane1
(38,613 posts)HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)would have been brought up on charges for trying to shoot a SHOPLIFTER in a crowded Mall.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)Report is he has been bonded out, but is facing felony charges --- which he richly deserves.
"Mopery with intent to loiter is a hanging offense."
gollygee
(22,336 posts)people who carry guns look for excuses to use them. To mark the car? You don't fire a deadly weapon to mark a car. If you think that's OK, you shouldn't have access to deadly weapons.
Flame away.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Who "marks a car", that hasn't watched too much tv?
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)I don't THINK SO!
gollygee
(22,336 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)"They might not be here exactly when you get back but it's a blue Chevy two-door. And it'd be going south on Hertado Street. No, I can't make out the license number, but...it'd be pulling a small church."
"Any blue Chevy pulling a small church, I figure that'd be the one, yeah."
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)Die, you typical random bastard!
When I first saw that movie, I thought it was stupid. Now I watch and think that it's stupid, but hilarious.
I like to think I've evolved.
bike man
(620 posts)One of my favorite movies of all times.
Brigid
(17,621 posts)If I've seen it, I've forgotten it.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)Historic NY
(37,451 posts)They were the wrong size tires.
ashling
(25,771 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,950 posts)When I buy a tv I'm not going to just have it in my living room as decoration.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)As Jeff says, why didn't he simply write down the license plate number like the rest of us would have done?
Why not? Because he had a gun. So for him it was only natural to "solve" the problem of the alleged thief by shooting at him.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)who should not be allowed to own guns.
Hopefully he will be convicted, and won't be legally able to anymore!
Bake
(21,977 posts)I don't look for an excuse to use mine. This guy will have plenty of time to think about that in the joint.
Bake
AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)Wouldn't you use a PAINT BALL GUN?
Cosmocat
(14,566 posts)MOST people who carry firearms are in fact MOSTLY reasonable people and will not use them in a ridiculous manner like this.
What is unreasonable is that so many of the more "reasonable" people will fight tooth and nail to prevent any common sense means to try to keep the dingbats from being able to carry them.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)I bet on Tuesday, you would have fought for his right to carry a weapon. On Tuesday, there was no way to know he was a dingbat. There is no dingbat test.
otohara
(24,135 posts)are more apt to be hostel towards other drivers.
Precious makes them feel like badasses.
Autumn
(45,107 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)Last edited Thu Feb 28, 2013, 02:49 PM - Edit history (1)
Making the world safe for big box stores.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)In addition to checking for a criminal background, can we check for some sort of baseline IQ?
It's not the "good guy" with a gun or the "bad guy" with a gun that worries me.
It's the dumb ass with a gun.
Peregrine
(992 posts)the shoplifter ran into the wife knocking her down, then the good shooter went to work. But the interview of the wife was worthy of an Oscar. Beneath the heavy tears, she muttered that he was going to kill her. The good shooter added that the shoplifter tried backing over him, and that is why he shot. By the way, what criminal parks his getaway car so he has to back up.
RC
(25,592 posts)Serves him right.
LiberalFighter
(50,950 posts)when he wouldn't be a criminal if there wasn't a law.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,501 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)That stealing cheap Chinese junk from Wal-Mart is not a capital crime.
samsingh
(17,599 posts)rustydog
(9,186 posts)"THE ONLY THING THAT STOPS A BAD GUY WITH A GUN IS A GOOD GUY WITH A GUN"
"oh, wait, what? the shoplifter was unarmed?...Oh it's ok, he was trying to Trayvon the shoplifter"
LonePirate
(13,426 posts)This idiot needs to suffer more than just an arrest.
appleannie1
(5,067 posts)you can expect a lot more of this sort of thing and innocent bystanders are going to end up victims as well.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Sometimes, the stupid really does hurt, but it never seems to hurt the stupid ones.
AndyA
(16,993 posts)The public was in no danger at any time. Move along, go buy more guns...
jambo101
(797 posts)I'm about to return to Florida for a 3 week vacation to visit friends and family.
If it wasnt for the friends and family i'd probably just go elsewhere,Myrtle Beach perhaps..
riqster
(13,986 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)kentauros
(29,414 posts)flying roaches
riqster
(13,986 posts)Chorophyll
(5,179 posts)I'd vastly prefer to share the world with shoplifters than with people who think they're Rambo.
And he was "shocked that police arrested him."
appleannie1
(5,067 posts)KansDem
(28,498 posts)Use this!
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Jerry442
(1,265 posts)It'll make your head impossible to clean off.
Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)he might get a clue
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)event that had exactly *nothing* to do with him.
He was not directly threatened by harm in any way.
He was not in physical danger in any way.
His person or belongings were not involved, until he decided to interject himself into the matter by using deadly force.
He's going to have a swell time explaining to the insurance company why they should pay for all the damage he caused those vehicles, too.
Bonhomme Richard
(9,000 posts)by carpenters on the most efficient way to use it, go to your weekly session hitting nails, polish it daily and even carry it around with you.
Now, can you imagine never getting the opportunity to actually hammer two pieces of wood together.
Is this the frustration of the gun owner? You bet.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)ajk2821
(89 posts)I can see it now some "responsible gun owner" feels threatened in some way (that person looked at me funny!) and starts shooting. Second "responsible gun owner" sees the first firing his gun and opens fire on that person and so on and so on and so on....
Actually I am surprised this has not happened yet.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)johnlucas
(1,250 posts)Remember that episode when Homer gets a gun?
I thought things like the sudden crazy mob scenes were exaggerated for comedy purposes.
I always understood the Simpsons to be social commentary so that was the frame of mind I thought in.
This past decade I have come to realize that The Simpsons weren't exaggerating AT ALL.
Simpsons hit the ACTUALITY of American behavior & disguised it as comedic social satire.
Maybe we're just living in a cartoon world now but isn't this the kind of foolishness you would expect from a gag scene in The Simpsons?
Something that Homer or some other thoughtless character would do?
Art imitates life!
John Lucas
Joey Liberal
(5,526 posts)lpbk2713
(42,759 posts)Check the applicant's Netflix account to see how many Eastwood and Seagal movies they have selected.
Unfuggenbelievable.
mountain grammy
(26,624 posts)A "responsible gun owner" just "standing his ground!" Fox news is gettng ready.
Historic NY
(37,451 posts)"The guy put me in danger and other people," said Martinez as police hauled him off to jail Wednesday evening. "He tried to run me over."
But police said Martinez only was bumped by the shoplifter's getaway car because he was chasing after the car and even tried to open the door to the moving vehicle before he opened fire."
I guess he want to make sure the gun could mark it.
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Orange-City-Walmart-customer-shoots-suspected-shoplifter/-/1637132/19107274/-/rotvq8/-/index.html
After reviewing store security video, police said Martinez's story doesn't add up. They believe he was never in danger because the shoplifter was driving away from him and everyone else
Rex
(65,616 posts)could have had people in them. The idiot doesn't understand why he endangered his life and others? And he had a gun? Yikes! Glad they arrested him. What a fool.
AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)PAINT BALL GUN
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)I could be on board with that.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)They're even more radical than Saudi Arabians who cut off the hands of thieves.
harkonen
(36 posts)krispos42
(49,445 posts)The standard for lethal force was not *quite* met here. And the ocean is moist.
"Imminent danger of death or serious injury to yourself or another person, or to prevent a felon from fleeing" does not quite translate to "shoot at a fleeing shoplifter".
...because he thought no one other than the shoplifter was in danger. Dumb statement; he did not have the right to put anybody, including the shoplifter, IN danger in the first place! (See above).
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)to people's parked cars???????
rdharma
(6,057 posts)So ........ it's not just a simple "property crime"!
Herrrp Derrp!