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cali

(114,904 posts)
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 07:05 AM Mar 2013

OK, DUers. I'm betting that you can spot the gross dishonesty in the following

excerpt from a Mort Zuckerman piece.

But they're there still, in the many millions across the country—little changed in their total since the 1930s: 12.3 million today are fully unemployed, compared to 12.8 million in 1933 at the depth of the depression. The difference is that now they're invisible, because we've organized relief differently. In our "recovery," the millions are being assisted, out of sight, by the government, through unemployment checks, Social Security disability checks, and food stamps. More than 47 million Americans are in the food stamp program, some 15 percent of the total population, compared with the 7.9 percent participation in food stamps from 1970 to 2000.

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http://www.usnews.com/opinion/mzuckerman/articles/2013/02/28/mort-zuckerman-the-jobs-picture-is-far-worse-than-it-looks

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OK, DUers. I'm betting that you can spot the gross dishonesty in the following (Original Post) cali Mar 2013 OP
It's like spotting the shit in a pile of manure. nt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #1
lol. true, but there's a neon turd in that pile. cali Mar 2013 #2
Comparing 12.3 million unemployed in a population of 300 million today geek tragedy Mar 2013 #4
that would be it. cali Mar 2013 #6
Maybe worse was the suggestion that disability payments are a way of 'hiding' geek tragedy Mar 2013 #7
Let's see... Behind the Aegis Mar 2013 #3
except for the tidy facts as such... graham4anything Mar 2013 #5
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
4. Comparing 12.3 million unemployed in a population of 300 million today
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 07:18 AM
Mar 2013

to 12.8 million unemployed out of a population of 125 million in 1933?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
7. Maybe worse was the suggestion that disability payments are a way of 'hiding'
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 07:27 AM
Mar 2013

the unemployed. Some serious right wing assholishness there.

Behind the Aegis

(53,956 posts)
3. Let's see...
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 07:16 AM
Mar 2013

12.3 million unemployed today with a total US population of 313.85 million in July 2012, compared to 12.8 million unemployed with a total population of 125.58 million in July 1933. Yeah, the numbers are oh so close.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
5. except for the tidy facts as such...
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 07:22 AM
Mar 2013

Coming off of the great LBJ era, times were great, as was 1992-2000 the years in the second sleight of hand analogy from Zucky.

The most obvious is the difference in population between 1933 and 2013.

but the second sleight is using the great prosperity period thanks to LBJ/ending in the end of Clinton's great 2 terms

and it totally leaves out the devastation caused by 9-11 and the bankrupting of America by George W. Bush

except for those tidy facts...

(also not to forget-Bush used messed up fuzzy numbers that made zero sense, so the totals from the Bush years(unemployment, all that) are most likely 6 to 10% higher would be my guestimate.If only those numbers had been accurate, it would be far easier to see what a great job President Obama has done in just a few short years with a hostile house.

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