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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGot in a PISSER With The Landlord
..Went down to get a new switch plate for the light switch this morning. The landlord ask me how I was doing with my job search, I said WELL I just got approved for another 26 weeks of unemployment benefits so I can start and finish out my training program.I am working towards my Class A CDL.
She asked who is paying for the training program I said the state and WIA. She said why should the state pay for you to retrain for a new job. I said so I can get back to work and get off of UE. She said WELL!!! the state shouldnt have to pay for every unfortunate circumstance in your life. I replied and reminded her that 25% of her rents were being paid by UE benefits currently and that those benefits are saving her property management company thousands in legal cost not having to evict people and adding to the bottom line.
I closed by saying if the state shouldn't be paying for this then how about we make corporations pay, they are the ones laying people off not the state. Perhaps they took a risk in hiring me so why shouldn't the risk include retraining me if they fall on hard times, that is not my fault.
Her eyes just rolled to the back of her head.
randome
(34,845 posts)But you made good points.
RVN VET
(492 posts)The landlady is crude, rude, insensitive, and, well, a little on the stupid side of the intelligence matrix.
She should care about her rents. Are they being paid or are the not. If paid, she has no further concerns. If not, well, then, she's got a problem. Other than that, if she wants to comment on her tenants lives it should be to compliment or support them. To criticize and insult someone the way she did demonstrates a cold heart in a soulless body.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)Lurker Deluxe
(1,036 posts)That is something that the righties and I will agree about. Training to put people to work so they can be productive and pay taxes is always a good investment in society.
Not really an effective way to argue against the government helping people become qualified for a job so they can have a better life. The price of education in the USofA is completely out of hand, and I do not think the Gov should pay for it when it comes to 100K for a degree, but some price control in that area would be a positive.
Hope it works out well for you.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)The cost of education is out of hand and the government should step in to A) control those costs OR B) make sure EVERYONE who is qualified can receive higher education, without being burdened with tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt when they graduate.
That's what a civilized nation would do, especially one that wants to be on top in innovation and equality and progress.
My opinion. Peace.
sdfernando
(4,935 posts)of the United States to have a well educated population, and to that end I believe in free public education all the way up through an Associate Degree or equivalent. How to pay for that would be another matter but I would rather see tax dollars spent on that then on grounded F-35 planes or another warship we don't need. Some people look at me like I have the plague or something.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)A funny thing is, we were headed that way. There's an old saying, "as goes California, so goes the nation." And back in the 60s, California had probably the finest system of higher education in the world. Supported by tax dollars, any resident of the state who qualified could attend and pay zero for tuition. This was when living costs were such that a student could support him/herself waiting tables, so really, anyone could go. And it worked. I have no doubt that California's prosperity of that era was fueled by this pool of highly-educated people, from all walks of life. IMHO.
Then Saint Ronnie of the Raygun became governor. Ronnie didn't want to pay for the education of "people who disagreed with him", so he cut the funding. And now we have what we have ("as goes California...).
Now, as you say, we can't afford butter 'cause we hafta buy all these guns.
It would be nice to have a national conversation on those terms again, wouldn't it?
Rider3
(919 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(149,637 posts)That's telling her.
Good luck with getting your Class A CDL.
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)but not before telling them that's none of your damn business then slamming the door in their face
LeftofObama
(4,243 posts)If I wanted the landlady's opinion I would have asked for it. These types always seem to gang up on the less fortunate. It seems like, if for some reason you're down on your luck, it's a sign of weakness and you should be ridiculed for it.
raccoon
(31,111 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)We should drop gender-based terms entirely.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)And should I be saying "waitron"?
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)themselves actors whether they are male or female.
antigone382
(3,682 posts)In the larger world of theatre, "actor" for both men and women is the standard, and has been since the beginning. I say this as someone who spent a long time in the theatre world.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)Who knew?
Is it still safe to clear my throat, or will that offend someone?
Perhaps we need a derogatory term for people that are offended when no offense is meant.
I'm surprised you didn't take exception to raccoon's name.
Bandit
(21,475 posts)I can understand if the Government provides no interest loans for training/education, but I sort of agree with your landlord in that I don't understand why yours should be free and others not so much....
RILib
(862 posts)I don't know if they do that any more.
Edited: yes they do, although there is now a financial need factor as well.
demosocialist
(184 posts)Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)MindPilot
(12,693 posts)Your landlady doesn't get that her income is (at least in part) dependent on your UI benefits? It reminds of my DoD contractor co-workers who complain about government spending.
Maybe she would be willing to pick up where the state left off and pay for your retaining?
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)I heard two right-wing Tea Party Republicans carry on with their nonsense about the socialist government and the socialist Democratic Party the socialist President Obama. The both were going on about how government needs to get out out the way so free enterprise can work. Well, that would be bad enough. But earlier in the conversation one of them was talking about their plans to build an extended care facility for elderly and disabled that would rely almost entirely on Medicare and Medicaid funding as well as additional government support much of it no doubt coming as a results of the dreaded "Obamacare". The other right-wing blowhard was the second in command of a federally funded program that tries to promote business development and tourism for the islands where I live. They don't seem to accomplish anything except keeping themselves in a luxurious lifestyle. I guess market discipline and tough love are for lesser life forms then themselves.
rsmith6621
(6,942 posts)...Where they said they wished government would get out of their way, that is where I would have said OK lets have them roll up the roads that corporations use to make profit.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I would move. Your land lady is a stupid busy body. I can take stupid and I can take a busy body, but both in the same person is very difficult indeed. No doubt she is horrid in other ways.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)and I don't care where the rent money comes from, just so long as I have it at the first of the month.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)Good for you.
Locrian
(4,522 posts)A simpleton who thinks that people are entirely self-sufficient and dependent on NOTHING from civilization and/or cooperation.
She would be the first one to perish if there was ever anything like a 'survival of the fittest' max max scenario... as others pointed out, she'd be flushed down the drain if she lost her income from 'gov socialism'.
Coolest Ranger
(2,034 posts)southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)are takers. LOL You should remind her that when you were working you helped pay for people's unemployement for your taxes. You should ask her what is better. Helping people get retrained for a new job or robb banks.
Ian David
(69,059 posts)... she'd be pretty quick to declare bankruptcy and ask for the government's help for protection from her creditors.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Ummm...not to draw too fine a point but, maybe if they were making sufficient revenue they wouldn't be laying off employees. Employment is a reaction to consumer demand.
rsmith6621
(6,942 posts)...employers should pay in to a state fund to assist their laid off employees with worker retraining especially when that industry is rated by the Department of Labor as an industry that is in declined.
I spoke with a Worksource councilor last week who said that the first grade class that started last fall will need to retrain for a new career 7 times, not change jobs 7 time but retrain. Essentially people will go to their graves with student loan debt following them. He closed the discussion up by saying the new corporate philosophy is not to engage in long term relationships.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)It's not their fault consumers stopped consuming. They'd rather have the business -- it's how they make that filthy, filthy lucre they love so much.
rsmith6621
(6,942 posts)...maybe the lack of creative innovation or making the product out of reach is in part of the issue.
Frankly I think we should be able to buy worker training insurance to pay for time like these with out having to go into a lifetime of debt.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)& jobs and lobbying for safety net benefit cuts.
whose fault do *you* think it is?
you think consumers just decided en masse to 'stop consuming'?
newthinking
(3,982 posts)on the whole, not job creators.
lastlib
(23,248 posts)Just a thought, maybe not necessarily good......
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)They only make profits if business is good -- and business isn't.
lastlib
(23,248 posts)Where did that cash come from?
And what is this?
http://money.cnn.com/2012/12/03/news/economy/record-corporate-profits/index.html
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)The move provides hope that the lost decade for stocks is finally over. Bulls claim the recovery is slowly improving, as corporate profits also reach new highs. The New York Times recently reported that corporate profits accounted for 14.2 percent of national income in the third-quarter of 2012, the largest share in over 60 years.
http://wallstcheatsheet.com/stocks/dow-all-time-high-how-is-this-time-different.html/
newthinking
(3,982 posts)power and unlimited access to government and market loans and resources to buy out the smaller businesses that are actually the real creative engines.
They often strip out companies tossing out productive, yet lower profit components, and then using our hard won productivity technologies and innovations to *reduce* labor. That is where many of them are making their money. Through financial leverage, control of government resources, finding competitive markets and turning them into semi-monopolies, automating and eliminating labor.
Mega corporations only expand to increase their power and global footprint. Often times they *reduce* choices in the marketplace, because it is actually more profitable for them.
Just travel outside to a part of the world that they are not fully in control, like Eastern Europe. Not so many wal-,marts, but the selection of products dwarfs what we have in our brick and morter mega corps shelves.
I have no doubt that if they had to actually compete on a level playing field based on innovation and not financial thuggary, market corruption, and mega propaganda they could not.
STOP saying they "create jobs"! They don't! (others, not you HitPoint)
treestar
(82,383 posts)without it - does she suppose that there is an endless supply of tenants able to pay rent?
She probably fancies herself one of the 1% because she owns a building.