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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 10:21 AM Mar 2013

Rand Paul Praises Horrendous Supreme Court Decision, Would Let Employers Ruthlessly Exploit Workers

Rand Paul Praises Horrendous Supreme Court Decision, Would Let Employers Ruthlessly Exploit Workers

By Ian Millhiser

Lochner v. New York is widely viewed as one of the worst Supreme Court decisions in American history. It is taught in law schools, alongside decisions upholding segregation and permitting Japanese detention camps, in order to instruct budding lawyers on how judges should not behave. Even Robert Bork, the failed, right-wing Supreme Court nominee who claimed women “aren’t discriminated against anymore”, called Lochner an “abomination” that “lives in the law as the symbol, indeed the quintessence of judicial usurpation of power.”

Lochner fabricated a so-called right to contract in order to strike down a New York law preventing bakery owners from overworking bakers, but its rationale has implications for any law intended to shield workers from exploitation. In essence, Lochner established that any law that limits any contract between an employer and an employee is constitutional suspect. If desperation forces someone to agree to work 18 hours a day, seven days a week, for a dollar a day in a factory filled with toxic air, then courts must treat that law with heavy skepticism. Not every workplace law was struck down during the so-called Lochner Era — the justices of that era sometimes valued sexism more than they valued exploiting workers, for example — but Lochner placed any law benefiting workers on constitutionally weak footing. Needless to say, the “right to contract” it invented appears nowhere in the Constitution.

Nevertheless, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) took several minutes out of his lengthy talking filibuster yesterday to praise this “abomination” of a decision on the Senate floor:

You get to the Lochner case. The Lochner case is in 1905. The majority rules 5-4 that the right to make a contract is part of your due process. Someone cannot deprive you of determining how long your working hours are without due process. So President Obama’s a big opponent to this, but I would ask him — among the other things I’m asking him today — to rethink the Lochner case. . . . I think it’s a wonderful decision.

Watch it:

- more -

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/03/07/1684111/rand-paul-all-laws-protecting-workers-are-constitutionally-suspect/

Hmmm, I'm seeing a pattern.

Rand Paul, Supposed Defender Of Civil Liberties, Calls For Jailing People Who Attend ‘Radical Political Speeches’
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/05/31/232182/rand-paul-criminalize-speech/

Sen. Rand Paul: Civil Rights Act Was Overreach Because "I Can't Have A Cigar Bar Anymore"
http://politicalcorrection.org/blog/201201090003

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Rand Paul Praises Horrendous Supreme Court Decision, Would Let Employers Ruthlessly Exploit Workers (Original Post) ProSense Mar 2013 OP
Indeed, Ma'am: Accepting This Pig's 'Support' is Like Accepting An Endorsement From The Ku Klux The Magistrate Mar 2013 #1
Evidently, you're not ProSense Mar 2013 #2
Sectarian Fragmentation Is the Abiding Curse Of the Left, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2013 #3
Does Rand Paul mean we get to throw the Tea Party in prison? backscatter712 Mar 2013 #4
ergo he is wrong on everything else :) Puzzledtraveller Mar 2013 #5
Yes, when ProSense Mar 2013 #6
HEY!LOOK OVER HERE! 99Forever Mar 2013 #7
Here's ProSense Mar 2013 #8
I "think' I... 99Forever Mar 2013 #10
I think ProSense Mar 2013 #11
I care fuckall about Rand Paul. 99Forever Mar 2013 #12
Sure ProSense Mar 2013 #13
You have a fucking accusation to make? 99Forever Mar 2013 #14
Oooh, ProSense Mar 2013 #15
Just as I thought. 99Forever Mar 2013 #18
Kick! n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #19
Fuck Rand Paul. nt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #25
Fuck Rand Paul! bluedigger Mar 2013 #9
Obama signs free trade agreement. Arctic Dave Mar 2013 #16
Wow, ProSense Mar 2013 #17
RAND PAUL IS A MONSTER trueblue2007 Mar 2013 #20
All ACLU types and hippies in the Democratic Party are racist and anti-worker cthulu2016 Mar 2013 #21
What the fuck ProSense Mar 2013 #22
Fuck Rand Paul. nt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #24
No words can accurately describe how much I loathe this man. Initech Mar 2013 #23

The Magistrate

(95,252 posts)
1. Indeed, Ma'am: Accepting This Pig's 'Support' is Like Accepting An Endorsement From The Ku Klux
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 10:27 AM
Mar 2013

"Even when he's right, he's wrong."

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
2. Evidently, you're not
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 10:49 AM
Mar 2013

cool if you're not championing a demagogue and his propaganda about people being killed in a cafe, which is designed to hype is stature and take focus off his other proposals that will ensure millions of Americans lose their rights and thousand lose their lives through lack of health care and starvation.


Making hundreds of thousands hungry or homeless: 'Brutal' or 'a pittance'?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022457325

The Magistrate

(95,252 posts)
3. Sectarian Fragmentation Is the Abiding Curse Of the Left, Ma'am
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 10:54 AM
Mar 2013

I am a Popular Front type, myself....

"Which does more damage, a spread-fingered slap or a punch with a closed fist?"

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
4. Does Rand Paul mean we get to throw the Tea Party in prison?
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:01 AM
Mar 2013

From one of his speeches...

"But if someone is attending speeches from someone who is promoting the violent overthrow of our government, that’s really an offense that we should be going after — they should be deported or put in prison."

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
8. Here's
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:30 AM
Mar 2013

"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain..... "

...the fraud "behind the curtain":

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022472458

I suppose your objection is in support of Paul's rant, or is it that you think civil rights are an unimportant distraction?

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
10. I "think' I...
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:48 AM
Mar 2013

... recognize a blatant attempt to distract attention from a VERY important issue that some would prefer just go away. I think the civil right to DUE PROCESS AND THE RULE OF LAW are indeed, critical to the very survival of this Nation. I don't believe ANY person is more important or above THE LAW. Apparently, you think otherwise. As such, we will never agree.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
11. I think
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:50 AM
Mar 2013

"I 'think' I...
... recognize a blatant attempt to distract attention from a VERY important issue that some would prefer just go away. I think the civil right to DUE PROCESS AND THE RULE OF LAW are indeed, critical to the very survival of this Nation. I don't believe ANY person is more important or above THE LAW. Apparently, you think otherwise. As such, we will never agree."

...a lot of people are being duped by a fraud.

Better yet, what would Rand Paul do:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2472669

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
12. I care fuckall about Rand Paul.
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:54 AM
Mar 2013

Personalities is your gig.

Policies are mine.

Bad policies are bad policies, even when your rockstar is the one that has them.

Save your cheap bait for someone else.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
13. Sure
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:57 AM
Mar 2013

"I care fuckall about Rand Paul."

...after jumping into a thread criticizing Paul to claim it's just a distraction ("HEY!LOOK OVER HERE!&quot , you're ready to disown him in the face of his blatant hypocrisy.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
14. You have a fucking accusation to make?
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 12:00 PM
Mar 2013

Back it up.

Quote ONE fucking word of praise I have EVER posted about Rand Paul and I'll leave this forum forever.



I dare you.

bluedigger

(17,087 posts)
9. Fuck Rand Paul!
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:30 AM
Mar 2013

Anyone who fails to see the heritage of the KKK and the John Birch Society in his political DNA just doesn't want to look.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
17. Wow,
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 12:16 PM
Mar 2013

"Obama signs free trade agreement...Allowing more US jobs to go oversees."

...Obama is just like Paul. I take it you posted that to make a point that Paul isn't so bad?

Rand Paul votes against incentive to bring jobs back to the U.S.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=112&session=2&vote=00181

Fact Sheet: An Update on Bringing Jobs Back to the United States
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/05/08/fact-sheet-update-bringing-jobs-back-united-states

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
21. All ACLU types and hippies in the Democratic Party are racist and anti-worker
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 01:33 PM
Mar 2013

Just cutting to the Pro-chase in case anyone is dumb enough to fail to understand this (now year-long) campaign of guilt-by-association directed at certain left-leaning Democrats and having nothing to do with the pathetic and reactionary Paul family.

Let's pretend that our enemies within the Party are Paulbots! Much easier than thinking.

The consistent outline of the effort is to find people dumb enough to think this is a valid syllogism:

Obama is a centrist.

Republicans are the enemy.

Thus anyone who is not a centrist is a Republican.

QED.


ProSense

(116,464 posts)
22. What the fuck
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 02:45 PM
Mar 2013

"Just cutting to the Pro-chase in case anyone is dumb enough to fail to understand this (now year-long) campaign of guilt-by-association directed at certain left-leaning Democrats and having nothing to do with the pathetic and reactionary Paul family.

Let's pretend that our enemies within the Party are Paulbots! Much easier than thinking."

...does that drivel have to do with the OP? If you want to take issue with me calling out Paul, fine, but don't introduce bullshit straw men. I mean, you've wasted a year already building this imaginary case.

Paul acknowledged that US drone strikes have proven effective in places like Pakistan and Yemen, including a strike on US-born radical preacher Anwar al-Awlaki, whom Paul branded a traitor.

But "if you're going to kill non-combatants, people eating dinner, in America, there have to be some rules," he added.

http://www.alternet.org/progressive-wire/senators-filibuster-cia-pick-ends-after-12-hrs


Rand Paul supports "swift drone action" based on a "reasonable suspicion" of an "imminent danger"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022472789

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