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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHello there, DUers! Another head-banging Friday Afternoon Challenge awaits with “Hommage”!
Artists study the great masters who have gone before them. Here are 4 paired instances of the hommage one artist pays to another, whether in style, pose, composition or genre. The reinvented image is first, the second is its inspiration.
...just be good and do not cheat...
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monmouth3
(3,871 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)malaise
(269,182 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)art is such a savior for all of us...
malaise
(269,182 posts)and I do love your weekly thread
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)I'm totally clueless too, but I try it every week, and I always learn something new
Kingofalldems
(38,487 posts)other than there is a person sitting. Am I missing something?
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)particular poses. In this case, the later artist benefited from an artist who lived and worked 500 years before he did...(that's a hint, too!). This is maybe not a well-known example, but I am depending on the historical evidence...
longship
(40,416 posts)Georges Seurat -- Bathers at Asnieres!
I recognized the pointillism and that it was Seurat. I actually remembered something from my 1967 Humanities class at Michigan State University.
Yay!!
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)memory? And how much it is treasured?
Now, where did the inspiration of 1b come from?
longship
(40,416 posts)It seems renaissance era. I wouldn't hazard a guess. As I've said, I am out of my element.
And yes, you are right. I loved the MSU humanities classes. I just have not retained much of it. But I like impressionist and post-impressionist art so I remember Seurat. His style is distinctive.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)that were displayed in Paris and they influenced him greatly...
reteachinwi
(579 posts)Resurrection, c. 1460. He looks like he needs resurrecting, not like he's been resurrected.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)reteachinwi
(579 posts)and Wikipedia had a synopsis of the influences, including the Resurrection. I too had a course in Madison in the College of Integrated Liberal Studies. We surveyed literature, painting, sculpture, architecture from pre-Renaissance to Modernism in the context of the historical period in which it was created. It was wonderful, I would cheat on my math studies to check out the music that was composed at the time we were studying as it wasn't included in the class. So I have an overview, lacking in detail and breadth, and enjoy your posts as an opportunity to fill out what I don't know.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)I feel a real affinity for Madison. Husband has family there. I think of it as having a real kinship with New Haven where we live!
Evidently, Seurat saw copies of this fresco by Piero in Paris and was influenced by it, more than just by that pose. The upturned hats of two of the figures copy Piero's subject also...
If I hadn't read about this I would never have guessed that Seurat was influenced by Piero...
reteachinwi
(579 posts)When we went to the protests in 2011 at least a few of my colleagues and I were reluctant to leave. The Wikipedia synopsis mentioned the reflections of the upturned hat, the wrinkles in the pants echoing the wrinkles in the robe, the bent over the knees posture. The composition is credited to Nicolas Poussin's The Finding of Moses-"This is how a scene from everyday life suddenly becomes raised to the dignity of a history painting"- Charles Blanc, one of Seurat's teachers at the Ecole de Beaux Arts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathers_at_Asnières
The complete Ressurection
Thanks for all the fun CTyankee
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)when I despair I think about places like Madison and my heart is glad...we are fellow travelers in our mission to save this country!
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)but I couldn't remember his name. Drat.
horseshoecrab
(944 posts)2 a. Dido Building Carthage by J.M.W. Turner in 1815
inspired by
2 b. Seaport with the Embarkation of the Queen of Sheba by Claude (Claude Gellee) painted in 1648.
Hi CTYankee -- Nice challenge! Found this by searching for romanticism on google. Led to Turner, which very quickly led to Claude. Turner requested in his will that Dido Building Carthage be hung beside Claude's Embarkation of Queen of Sheba.
Hope that everyone in the snow's path is ok!
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)I must credit Erika Langmuir in her fabulous book, "Companion Guide to the National Gallery", which I am reading for my upcoming trip to London in May...
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)It seems to be a completely different event placed in a similar setting. I'll get back to searching after the break I've given myself...
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)countryjake
(8,554 posts)by the figure, heh.
Does your question in how it relates to 4a have to do with colors? I can't find that one either.
countryjake
(8,554 posts)I've finally found it.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)4b: Veronese - The Wedding at Cana (or The Marriage at Cana)
4a: Giovanni Battista Tiepolo - The Banquet of Cleopatra
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_Battista_Tiepolo
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Poor Tiepolo, he got no respect for such a long time!
I love the similarities of the two paintings: the dog(s), the birds in the sky, the balcony with onlookers, the Greek fluted columns, the banquet theme...what an era that must have been in the Veneto...
countryjake
(8,554 posts)Known for his textures and choosing to paint the common simple things, unlike many of his contemporaries.
Still Life with Copper Kettle, Bowl with Eggs (172425), by Chardin. Destroyed by fire in the Friedrichshain Flakturm, following the capture of Berlin, May 1945.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Oh, and what is 3a?
countryjake
(8,554 posts)I started reading the Wikipedia on Still-life to begin, then searched on various likely artists from that page, but adding "bucket with eggs" to the googling.
I haven't gotten past reading about Jean-Baptiste Chardin and looking at his works since I found him, so still have no idea who did the first one, but I can see why someone would use his work as inspiration. Amazing portrayals of ordinary people!
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)similarity. The artist of 3a studied Chardin's household kitchen works but didn't exactly "copy" them.
Maybe it is because 3a is not on display in a museum in the United States...I had no familiarity with it until I saw the piece to which this refers...
burrowowl
(17,648 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)marions ghost
(19,841 posts)but I know it's not...
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)marions ghost
(19,841 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)marions ghost
(19,841 posts)---------
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)I know what you mean. The Dutch painting of its Golden Age is awash in Still Lifes. It is incredible!
This is a few centuries later...try the 19th century...
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)with the post-Impressionists...
OK so 19th century then, which is one century later than 18th not few?
All right I'll take one more guess if it's pinpointed to 19th century.
Ratty
(2,100 posts)So I didn't try to play. But I liked seeing the pretty pictures that looked like other pretty pictures. Thank you.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)I love it when people like the art I try to present. It makes me feel so good. Like I have made someone's day somehow, in some way, better...
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Also, I would have guessed Seurat for 1a.
No clue about the rest.
Nice puzzle!
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)Can't say exactly. Just a guess based on recollections of art history class.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)I'm pretty sure it's not "still life with bowl/pot/kettle/vase" because I googled those and it didn't come up...
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)post #24 above
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)marions ghost
(19,841 posts)Cezanne Stove in the STudio
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)marions ghost
(19,841 posts)Cezanne painting of his studio--I figured it was early & that's right--1865
Whew! not easy, not so typical of Cezanne
I really like the little touch of flame in the stove and the minimal brushstrokes
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)my bad
When the aging Cezanne was asked by a young aspiring artist when they should be painting, he said "paint your stovepipe."
I just love that quote...
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)also give away the signature...sigh...I hate the trade-off but I am so glad you caught that heartbeat of the flame...so true...
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)---with the stovepipe is really effective & I wonder what's in the pot, water or soup?
Thanks CTyankee
Aerows
(39,961 posts)when you put all three together. It's really easy to see the style when you do that.
I'm not very good at these challenges, but I love the art, and I find it fascinating to see how you can associate artists with their work by looking at a bunch of them together. I doubt I'll forget Cezanne's still life style now.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)book "Companion Guide to the National Gallery" for several of these. She was their Director of Education for many years and what a knowledge she had!
Aerows
(39,961 posts)still-life paintings. I guess I always assumed they were boring, but that makes me take a different look at them. Those three posted up thread are quite beautiful in their own way .
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)wonderful nuance of black in the painting...it is absolutely wonderful...
Aerows
(39,961 posts)to see how all the colors come together to form a depth and texture. Maybe it is easier for me to see on something more simple than in the highly complex paintings with a lot of people and action in them.
I found that to be particularly intriguing.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)but seriously, especially in the one I just pointed out, you can really see the texture and depth - or at least I can. I get kind of lost in the forest and can't see the trees, so to speak, on some of the more busy paintings.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)is going on. The smaller ones concentrate your mind and your senses so you can see and feel what the artist is trying to convey.
countryjake
(8,554 posts)Some of this guy's stuff makes me want to reach in and pick up a lid to peek inside.
Butler's Table ~ Jean-Baptiste-Siméon Chardin ~ 1756
I really like one he did with a washwoman at the tub...there's a little kid at her feet, blowing bubbles. Some of his paintings like that remind me of the book illustrations from way back when.
Also, I can't help but wonder, with all of the dead animals in so many of his paintings, did he set these things up as models to paint, how long did it take him to finish, and what was the condition of those carcasses by the time he was done? Did he pluck 'em and cook 'em up, after they bled out? The guy lived to a ripe old age for his time, too.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)that he could sit there with a dead animal in front of him day after day painting it...My guess is that is what he did, because a dead animal is not going to smell so good (or be safe to eat) after a little while...
I cannot tell you how overwhelming the sheer number of "still life" art was in the Hals museum in Haarlem when I was there! It was overwhelming...a huge room full of it...dead game, cheeses, meats, vegetables and on and on...these people must have eaten pretty well! The Dutch really did a number on this one!
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Yet Love I It !!!
& Rec !!!
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)I love having you stop by and see this thing I do on Fridays...
Ain't we got fun?
WillyT
(72,631 posts)I got nothin...
Yet I always wait for the answers, and the... enlightentment...
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)ya see, I am retired and have LOTS of time on my hands to do research, which I do a LOT of. This is the result.
I enjoy doing this immensely...I'm glad other feel this way...