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raptor_rider

(1,014 posts)
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 09:51 PM Mar 2013

Ok, I have to admit something.

I'm a registered republican. Though I have democratic views. I believe in woman's choice. I've had an abortion myself. I believe in equality in marridige. I have many gay friends, and wish that they can marry who they love. It doesn't matter how you love. You're in love with someone, that knows you. They complete your connection with the universe. They are the ones you will spend entirety with. In the next realm. I don't know if there is a god. However I know there is a higher power than us humans.
I'm heterosexual. I love my husband, and the kids that we've had. I don't care what sexual relations the have. Just as long I can play with a grand baby. My youngest is almost 6, and I miss those times.
I'm having major problems with myself. Major alcoholic. Already been in hospital with liver failure last summer. Just started drinking again a few oaths ago. My husband figures why let me live my life, unhappy. He knows its killing me, and knows what he'll have to deal with as a single parent, however he loves me, and wants me happy. I don't blame him. I know it's probably the end of this year. However, I'll die knowing my husband loves me. I'm totally capable of taking care of my kids, until he comes home to help. One of the last times in the ER, I was .45 bac. Was still breathing. Wasn't in failure yet.
Enough about that. Want to tell a story of determination.
My two boys are 9 months & 23 days apart. Totally not planned. Didn't want another medical abortion. My mil is a ND and herbalist. Used her concoction of herbs of inducing miscarriage. It worked on her and quite a few clients. I took it for a month, nothing happened. Finally went for a ultrasound at 12 weeks, and to find out, the baby was normal and the pregnancy was a go. No late term abortion here.
I was 33 weeks along, and my water broke. The dr induced and he was born that day. Premature he was, however my greatest love. I stayed in the hospital with him for the time they kept him. Breast feeding him, to make him strong. Had low blood sugars, which was strange, since his big sister was dx'ed type 1 diabetic while I was 4 months pregnant.
Love my family. I really do, however I think differently than them. I just hope, whatever healthcare the government decides, it will keep my family alive.
I know I'm not for long in this world, however, I want my family to live.
If this seems totally scattered, I'm sorry. I believe I'm properdly buzzed, just an alcoholic ramble.

I do love a lot of you. Please don't get rid of me. Calf Peggy, mfm, Kali, ohiosmith, fldvgn, lefty mom, matcom, will Pitt, skinner, trof, salmon enchanted evening, nothing shockes me anymore, bi baby, Phoenix rising, Phoenix, raven, earlg, elad, Robb (ding bat), rabrrrrr, Arnold (Oscar), lynnsin, oh I can name more. I've been around since before July of 2003. I'm a zombie, not a mavolint oe. I was banned for defending the other Katrina victims, besides new orlenes.

I don't want to be banned again. I've grown to love you all. I think of you all as far away friends, that I'd love to meet.

Loving Grace,
Raptor_Rider

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Ok, I have to admit something. (Original Post) raptor_rider Mar 2013 OP
NSMA has been gone for years... Cooley Hurd Mar 2013 #1
That just tells you, I've been raptor_rider Mar 2013 #7
I doubt you were banned merely for your concern about other areas affected by Katrina... Cooley Hurd Mar 2013 #11
It was the only raptor_rider Mar 2013 #29
why are you a registered republican ? JI7 Mar 2013 #2
I'm very old, barely posted raptor_rider Mar 2013 #30
Why? RedCappedBandit Mar 2013 #3
A friend in need Herlong Mar 2013 #6
I got your back. Herlong Mar 2013 #10
I did it for my fathers friend. He was running for Sherrif.f raptor_rider Mar 2013 #4
Every modern vote you cast should be for Dems... Cooley Hurd Mar 2013 #5
I do not know who you raptor_rider Mar 2013 #14
r_r, no need to apologize... Cooley Hurd Mar 2013 #22
Loving Grace to you as well wellstone dem Mar 2013 #8
Thank you raptor_rider Mar 2013 #16
I'm a lot more concerned about your alcoholism than your party affiliation. proud2BlibKansan Mar 2013 #9
This should've been my first comment Cooley Hurd Mar 2013 #12
Baby raptor_rider Mar 2013 #18
I've been in your husband's place. proud2BlibKansan Mar 2013 #40
My mother went through similar to what you're going through. FedUpWithIt All Mar 2013 #41
. seabeyond Mar 2013 #13
Thank you! That's a message we all need Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #47
Sorry for your addiction. Booze is poison to some. I used to smoke... Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #15
I'm still here and I was here on DU.1, too. Rhiannon12866 Mar 2013 #17
Best response to this thread! Cooley Hurd Mar 2013 #20
I've also learned to share my experience, strength and hope Rhiannon12866 Mar 2013 #25
You're one of the best DUers because of this! Cooley Hurd Mar 2013 #28
Thank you so much! Rhiannon12866 Mar 2013 #45
Oh Rhiannon, raptor_rider Mar 2013 #23
I hear what you're saying Rhiannon12866 Mar 2013 #36
You are powerless over other people's behavior but you CAN do virgogal Mar 2013 #38
You want to live elehhhhna Mar 2013 #19
Oh girl raptor_rider Mar 2013 #24
FWIW, I got banned years ago under a different name skydive forever Mar 2013 #21
I know raptor_rider Mar 2013 #26
don't they tell you why you are banned and given a chance to come back ? JI7 Mar 2013 #33
I think that a better life awaits you - try working to find it MannyGoldstein Mar 2013 #27
Your post conveys the love you have accepted into your life randr Mar 2013 #31
three tries is not enough Kali Mar 2013 #32
Thank you raptor_rider Mar 2013 #44
wish there were something I could say, or do, to help make things a bit easier for you, and for niyad Mar 2013 #34
What a struggle you endure each day elfin Mar 2013 #35
Sometimes just saying something out loud helps me b zola Mar 2013 #37
Here's some contact info for more support. Take care. pinto Mar 2013 #39
Not sure why you are a republican Marrah_G Mar 2013 #42
Hey! GiveMeFreedom Mar 2013 #43
Please don't give up on yourself. Buns_of_Fire Mar 2013 #46
Thank you everyone raptor_rider Mar 2013 #48
I watched two dear friends (old loves) die of liver failure due to drinking. stlsaxman Mar 2013 #49
From one rider to another, its axiomatic that you have to keep trying riderinthestorm Mar 2013 #50

raptor_rider

(1,014 posts)
7. That just tells you, I've been
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 10:07 PM
Mar 2013

I've been around a long time. Very long. Got banned around sept 2005, around hurricane Katrina. I defended those that were Mississippi, and other states that were affected. A lot were our own in those states. I was just defending them, and got banned, for not worrying about NOLA, I was worried About the others involved. They needed help too!

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
11. I doubt you were banned merely for your concern about other areas affected by Katrina...
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 10:12 PM
Mar 2013

I've been here since 2002, was very active in August 2005, and cannot recall a single instance where any animosity was thrown towards anyone because they were concerned about MS over NOLA.

 

Herlong

(649 posts)
10. I got your back.
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 10:12 PM
Mar 2013

What you're going through, is a hard way to go. Keep the faith. When you are well, and you are still a republican, that's your prerogative. I am democrat and I'm here to stay! Get Well! Stay Well!

raptor_rider

(1,014 posts)
4. I did it for my fathers friend. He was running for Sherrif.f
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 10:02 PM
Mar 2013

I do adore his friend. He was a democrat, until his son fucked everything up for him. I maybe registered republican, however I vote with my heart, and a lot are democratic.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
5. Every modern vote you cast should be for Dems...
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 10:06 PM
Mar 2013

Hey, if you voted for Jacob Javitz back in the day (or Lincoln Chaffee more recently), that would be understandable. But, there's NO repug in office today that's worth a shit...

raptor_rider

(1,014 posts)
14. I do not know who you
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 10:17 PM
Mar 2013

Stated. I vote with my heart. I vote what I believe for. I'm changing my affiliation for the next election. I love my family, who all believe republican. Even my husband. However my father got the surgery he needed. Medicare had to pay for it. The VA would rather see him die, than take money from the government that hurt him!!! It was friendly fire that disabled him!!! Still has USA metal in his lung, that he laid there, dying, in a ditch, until saved. Still has metal in his leg. A shard was taken out 8 yrs ago. Caused a goose egg sized tumor in his leg. Needs a brace to walk.

My mother has copd. Cannot help much. I live just next door to them. My sisters don't care, at all. They have their own fucked up lives. Both abused and kids abused too. No wonder they want to live here.

I'm sorry, went off my soap box.

Sorry

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
22. r_r, no need to apologize...
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 10:35 PM
Mar 2013

To you, and to me, alcohol is poison. I hope you can get guidance away from it before something terrible happens.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
9. I'm a lot more concerned about your alcoholism than your party affiliation.
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 10:10 PM
Mar 2013

Your family will miss you if you end up drinking yourself to death. No one will care that you were a registered republican.

raptor_rider

(1,014 posts)
18. Baby
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 10:25 PM
Mar 2013

I've tried three times. The first time, the hospital had to tie me down. I did get out of it. Chewed myself out. I couldn't walk. A complete involent. However I survived. This past detox was bad. I was imagining things. Like people in the house, and someone hiding alcohol from me. My husband had to hold me down in bed. Not fun for him.
I love him. I love my kids, however I'm not the best for them. I know it will hurt them. It will, greatly. I'd rather die in his arms, than in a hospital full of people that don't given a fuck!!
He knows my feelings and accepts it. As long I'm around family that loves me, is the greatest exit.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
40. I've been in your husband's place.
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 11:57 PM
Mar 2013

... with more than one person I love.

The pain is indescribable.

I won't go into details out of respect for the ones I love.

But trust me, the pain is nothing I would ever want to put anyone through.

And it never goes away. . . .

FedUpWithIt All

(4,442 posts)
41. My mother went through similar to what you're going through.
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 12:23 AM
Mar 2013

Tied down and raving in the hospital, hallucinations, delirium tremors... We all believed she would be dead before long because we simply could not see another possibility for her.

After a childhood and young adult-hood taking care of her i finally decided to try something different. I found a study that was dealing with bi-polar conditions. Prior Psych treatments kept resulting in Drs prescribing her anti-depressants which would only cause her to go into destructive manias.

The night before the appt. i had to hold her hand the entire night because she had a tendency to disappear when i would finally sleep. The next morning she drank while we got ready to leave. She was quite drunk when we walked into the clinic where they were doing the study. She left that day with medication and started taking it. That was the last week she drank for over 5 years. This was her first significant spell of sober in over 20 years.

After that 5 years passed she would have an occasional "off the wagon" moment but was always fairly successful at picking herself back up again and the previous pattern of drink, recover, drink was replaced by drink, recover, long spell of sobriety.

We have now reached a place where she is able to avoid the relapses most of the time. She can tell when she is becoming agitated or feeling the desire to drink and seeks help.

Death is not the only escape. There have been countless times, like the births of my children and times when i was ill, where i felt such gratitude that my mom was still here with me.

I wish you healing and peace and love.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
15. Sorry for your addiction. Booze is poison to some. I used to smoke...
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 10:17 PM
Mar 2013

and switched to nicorrette. That was the only way I could quit because I was so hard core.

I'm glad I didn't have a love of booze, or I would've had that addiction, too.

No chance for rehab, I guess?

Rhiannon12866

(205,464 posts)
17. I'm still here and I was here on DU.1, too.
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 10:22 PM
Mar 2013

Remember that whole agonizing lead up to the Iraq war. I've also voted Republican, though not for a lot of years, since I live in a Republican area and most local offices don't even have a Democratic challenger. I tend to vote a straight ticket these days, which means I don't vote for every office.

But what I most identify with is that I've had a problem with alcohol, too. I've gone years without drinking, but then my world fell apart and I couldn't stop. I tried on my own, but I couldn't do it for long. That's when I turned to AA.

I know that there's all kinds of criticism of AA here because of the Higher Power concept. That was a real problem for me, since I'd describe myself as a liberal atheist. But I surrendered to the fact that I was powerless over alcohol and started going to meetings and taking suggestions. And AA taught me how not to drink.

The basic concept that worked for me was knowing that I only have to not drink today. If I decide to tomorrow, that's always an option. But I know that I can just make it through today without a drink. I've gotten a lot more "tools" from AA, but that's what let me start putting sober time together. Assuming I make it until next month, I'll have four years sober.

Since I'm a liberal, I accept that different beliefs work for different people, more power to them. Nobody that I've met is judgmental. I just put one foot in front of another One Day at a Time and life is much better. I actually have fun, these days.

I promise you that if I can do it, you can, too. Let us know how you are. I've met lots of people who have been in your place. You're not alone in this. I've been there and I care...

Rhiannon12866

(205,464 posts)
25. I've also learned to share my experience, strength and hope
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 10:42 PM
Mar 2013

Because there is hope for everyone. One of the most common things I hear is that people were "drinking to die." But they were able to put the drink down when they learned how from others who'd been there. It's said that "to keep it, you have to give it away." That's why I do service and reach out to anyone new, just like people reached out to me. I couldn't have done it on my own, but "it works if you work it." And it has for me. *knock on wood*

Rhiannon12866

(205,464 posts)
45. Thank you so much!
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 01:11 AM
Mar 2013

I remember the welcome I received here, as well, from newyawker99 and God_bush_n_cheney, among others. And I don't think I would have survived the 2004 election without DU. I've made friends here and I try to pay it forward...

raptor_rider

(1,014 posts)
23. Oh Rhiannon,
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 10:36 PM
Mar 2013

I thank you for your reply. I've been in both aa/al anon. I've come from a very complex string of things that's led me this way. Yes, I want to quit. Yes, I love my family. Yes, I want grand babies. I want it all! My parents have fucked my mind up!! I thought I was getting straight until they pulled their shit! For almost 4 yrs, I've had to pick up the pieces of my father, and my daughter (her bio dad isn't there) for 4 yrs, while my mother ran off to her Internet boyfriend time and time again, taking my fathers money, and her dead mothers inheritance, and blowing it away.
The dude only wandered her for the money. Now, she has none, and can't get any of it, so the bitch stays with my dad. I despise her! I don't wish her dead, however wish her not here. The pain she has caused to y daughter and my father, I do not forgive. However I'll hold to my fathers wishes. I'll see that she's taken care of, if he dies before her

Rhiannon12866

(205,464 posts)
36. I hear what you're saying
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 10:57 PM
Mar 2013

And I hear that a lot. Many people start out saying they need to get sober for their parents/child/spouse. But what I've learned is that AA is a "selfish program." You have to decide that you have to do it for yourself. Only after doing it for yourself can you be there for other people.

The group that really made a difference for me was a women's group. That's where I learned the most and found the most support - and a sponsor. There are numerous women there with over 20 years, but they keep coming back because that's what keeps them sober. And we are able to share things that we probably couldn't with anyone else. Women understand.

I hope that you can find that kind of support for yourself, though it appears that you already have it on DU. Another thing I've learned is that DUers are the kindest, most compassionate people in the world. I keep coming back here, too, have for over 10 years, since DU keeps me grounded, too, and has become my home.

We all have obligations, wishes and pressures, but you need to take care of yourself first. Only then can you be there for other people, including family. I think you already know that concept, but you have to want it. I did, which is the reason I'm still here today. It does get better. I have seen the miracle happen and I wish that so much for you...

 

virgogal

(10,178 posts)
38. You are powerless over other people's behavior but you CAN do
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 11:14 PM
Mar 2013

something about your behavior---the drinking.

I did it 31 years ago after many futile attempts.

Get to meetings.

.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
19. You want to live
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 10:28 PM
Mar 2013

I can read that in your post. If you have insurance, please go to a recovery center. Please. If not please go to one meeting. My 16 y/o daughter has been sober for 2 years yesterday. If a child can do it, so can you. If you don't make it out of addiction, at least your babies will know you tried.

Sorry if this is lecturey. Been thinking about recovery a lot on this anniversary. Best wishes and love,
E

raptor_rider

(1,014 posts)
24. Oh girl
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 10:42 PM
Mar 2013

I've read a lot of your posts.

I'm trying to quit. Take all my pills like I'm supposed to. The demon still gets me. I've had debit card, keys to vehicles taken away. No way to get it, however, I still find a way. Hubby has me now. Watches "find my iPhone" and tells him where I'm at. I could be a bitch and turn my locator off, however I don't. I let him know where I'm at, and don't lie.
He knows my problem, and is trying to help me. Just doesnt want me to be miserable.

skydive forever

(445 posts)
21. FWIW, I got banned years ago under a different name
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 10:31 PM
Mar 2013

and to this day I still have no idea why. Never trash talked anyone or knowingly broke any rules. Just not my style. But for some reason I was banned. Hang in there and best of luck to you. Remember its never too late to get that monkey off your back.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
27. I think that a better life awaits you - try working to find it
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 10:44 PM
Mar 2013

I can tell from your post that you're a good person, there must be many who love you deeply, who care for you and would have a hole ripped in their heart if you left them.

Life is always difficult, for some of us more than for others - it's a roll of the dice, to some degree. And things are particularly difficult now for so many - these are tough times. Please, please consider working with those who love you, and with those who have wisdom about your troubles, to move things in a better direction. Nothing happens overnight, but things can get better one day at a time.

Peace to you, and good fortune.

randr

(12,412 posts)
31. Your post conveys the love you have accepted into your life
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 10:52 PM
Mar 2013

You seem to be on a direct path to serenity and your heart is open to all possibilities.
Thank you for sharing and bless you.

Kali

(55,011 posts)
32. three tries is not enough
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 10:53 PM
Mar 2013

give it at least a couple more, huh? grandbabies - focus, there are lots of people here and in life that will help. try again

niyad

(113,323 posts)
34. wish there were something I could say, or do, to help make things a bit easier for you, and for
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 10:54 PM
Mar 2013

your family. if it is at all of any use, know that I will hold you in my thoughts and prayers. and, as others have said, hoping you can get well, and stay well. your family needs you, and so do we.

elfin

(6,262 posts)
35. What a struggle you endure each day
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 10:56 PM
Mar 2013

Good that you have found this haven of caring people.

Sounds like AA every day might help clear your mind and body so your beloveds do not have to carry on without you. Easy to say, but SO difficult to do,

I do not care if you return to being a Republican -- I DO care that you find the help that leads to peace and well-being.

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
37. Sometimes just saying something out loud helps
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 11:03 PM
Mar 2013

Like you have done here. I know it may sound silly, but keep talking.

Best wishes to you, you are not alone.

pinto

(106,886 posts)
39. Here's some contact info for more support. Take care.
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 11:25 PM
Mar 2013

1-800-784-2433

http://www.newmexicoaa.org/

And your local health department will have a lot more local options. Again, take care.

~ pinto

GiveMeFreedom

(976 posts)
43. Hey!
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 12:36 AM
Mar 2013

I quit drinking.

A couple of things I learned.

I am not 6' 2" (just 5'7&quot

I am not the best looking man in the room. (Just your average long term smoker-heavy drinker-heavy drug user face, with a few scars and a lot of gray hair now)

I am not the smartest guy in the room. (ask me anything back then and I had the answer. If you were smarter than me, fuck you! How dare anyone correct me! Especially in public)

I knew, for a fact back then, that every girl I met wanted to have sex with me. (It was pointed out to me, by a group of men I knew, that some men wanted to have sex with me too. That was a shock to my psych, narrow minded views. Basically homophobic back then)

I was afraid things would not get better if I quit drinking. To much shit from the past to try to overcome. (A dude told me that if I quit drinking, my life will not get better, however, it's going to be a lot more fucking different than anything I have ever known)

I know some folks who have quit drinking. I have met people who quit, then start again and lead normal lives. I met some nice people who did not have to die because of drinking or drug abuse, but decided, fuck it, nobody understands me. (I have tried two out of three of those approaches. I like the middle.)

I cannot make another person like me, no matter what I do. (Kinda sucks when I found out there are some people in this world who will not acknowledge my existence, no matter what I look like, talk like, think like, spend like, save like, walk like, smell like, ad infinitum. (It hurts sometimes, but life sucks and that's the way it is)

I cannot make another human being do what I want them to do without their consent. (I have tried, believe me I have tried. Guns work best I hear, however I find that being polite and suggestive only, leaves a smaller mark on my own skin)

There is much more bullshit I could say, but another thing I have learned is that most people don't care.

Good luck with your drinking. May it bring you joy, happiness, and many years of blissful living.

If not...

I think you know the answer, sorry~

Buns_of_Fire

(17,180 posts)
46. Please don't give up on yourself.
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 02:52 AM
Mar 2013

I've been there, and I finally realized that none of us are even guaranteed tomorrow. So now I take it one day at a time. Be careful, and remember that you are loved.

Loving Grace to you, too.

raptor_rider

(1,014 posts)
48. Thank you everyone
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 11:29 AM
Mar 2013

Who have replied to me and giving me loving words of support and encouragement. I'm working on getting better. I hope to be sober soon.

stlsaxman

(9,236 posts)
49. I watched two dear friends (old loves) die of liver failure due to drinking.
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 12:01 PM
Mar 2013

I was the last person to see one of them alive though in a coma.

I can only imagine the pain your husband must be going through. Your children as well.

It's a horrible way to die, yet "because it makes you happy" your husband lets you continue...?

My mother also died of liver cancer and she said the most horrific thing about it was the hallucinations from ammonia in her brain as the liver failed.

this post makes me equally sad and angry.

Having 27 years sober myself I know there's is literally nothing anyone can do for you if you don't want to change. Don't quit for your husband or your children because you will inevitably fail. Quit for yourself.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
50. From one rider to another, its axiomatic that you have to keep trying
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 12:24 PM
Mar 2013

and sooner or later you will master this.

Don't give up. Find meetings. It sounds as though you are surrounded by people who love you - lean on that. Lean on us. Get help. Try again.





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