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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 03:44 PM Mar 2013

Three Democratic Myths Used to Demean the Paul Filibuster

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/03/10-5

Comencing immediately upon the 9/11 attack, the US government under two successive administrations has spent 12 straight years inventing and implementing new theories of government power in the name of Terrorism. Literally every year since 9/11 has ushered in increased authorities of exactly the type Americans are inculcated to believe only exist in those Other, Non-Free societies: ubiquitous surveillance, impenetrable secrecy, and the power to imprison and even kill without charges or due process. Even as the 9/11 attack recedes into the distant past, the US government still finds ways continuously to increase its powers in the name of Terrorism while virtually never relinquishing any of the power it acquires. So inexorable has this process been that the Obama administration has already exercised the power to target even its own citizens for execution far from any battlefield, and the process has now arrived at its inevitable destination: does this due-process-free execution power extend to US soil as well?

All of this has taken place with very little public backlash: especially over the last four years. Worse, it has prompted almost no institutional resistance from the structures designed to check executive abuses: courts, the media, and Congress. Last week's 13-hour filibuster of John Brennan's confirmation as CIA director by GOP Sen. Rand Paul was one of the first - and, from the perspective of media attention, easily among the most effective -Congressional efforts to dramatize and oppose just how radical these Terrorism-justified powers have become. For the first time since the 9/11 attack, even lowly cable news shows were forced - by the Paul filibuster - to extensively discuss the government's extremist theories of power and to debate the need for checks and limits.

All of this put Democrats - who spent eight years flamboyantly pretending to be champions of due process and opponents of mass secrecy and executive power abuses - in a very uncomfortable position. The politician who took such a unique stand in defense of these principles was not merely a Republican but a leading member of its dreaded Tea Party wing, while the actor most responsible for the extremist theories of power being protested was their own beloved leader and his political party.

Some Democrats, to their credit, publicly supported Paul, including Sen. Ron Wyden, who went to the Senate floor to assist the filibuster. Sens. Jeff Merkley, Pat Leahy and (independent) Bernie Sanders all voted against Brennan's confirmation, citing many of the same concerns raised by Paul. Some prominent progressive commentators praised Paul's filibuster as well: on CNN, Van Jones - while vowing that "I love this president" - said "Sen. Rand Paul was a hero for civil liberties" and that "liberals and progressives should be ashamed."
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Three Democratic Myths Used to Demean the Paul Filibuster (Original Post) xchrom Mar 2013 OP
Rand Paul ProSense Mar 2013 #1
so you deny that dems have been weak on filibuster reform -- even after the repuke xchrom Mar 2013 #2
What a ridiculous construct SwissTony Mar 2013 #3
k/r limpyhobbler Mar 2013 #4

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
1. Rand Paul
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 03:47 PM
Mar 2013
Some Democrats, to their credit, publicly supported Paul, including Sen. Ron Wyden, who went to the Senate floor to assist the filibuster. Sens. Jeff Merkley, Pat Leahy and (independent) Bernie Sanders all voted against Brennan's confirmation, citing many of the same concerns raised by Paul. Some prominent progressive commentators praised Paul's filibuster as well: on CNN, Van Jones - while vowing that "I love this president" - said "Sen. Rand Paul was a hero for civil liberties" and that "liberals and progressives should be ashamed."

...said during his filibuster that it wasn't about Brennan. He is not in the same category as Senators Sanders or Leahy.

Sen. Bernie Sanders Statement on Why He Voted Against Brennan for CIA Director
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=ab6cce88-772d-4a61-a1b2-f2256c3416ad

Leahy Votes No On Brennan Over Access To Drone Policy
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022474884

In fact, Paul's side show was about using drones to killing Americans on U.S. soil.

Glenn Greenwald defend Rand Paul against "Democratic myths"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022485711


xchrom

(108,903 posts)
2. so you deny that dems have been weak on filibuster reform -- even after the repuke
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 03:53 PM
Mar 2013

filibuster of obama's nomination of caitlin halligan?

a true mark of deep shame if there ever was one.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/09/us/politics/filibuster-stirs-a-new-battle-on-us-judges.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Blocked Bids to Fill Judgeships Stir New Fight on Filibuste

WASHINGTON — A fresh feud over federal judgeships has again begun to agitate the Senate, with Republicans so far blocking President Obama from filling any of the four vacancies on the nation’s most prestigious and important appeals court.

After Republicans this week filibustered the nomination of Caitlin J. Halligan of New York to the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, Democrats quickly began discussions over how to respond. One possibility is for Mr. Obama to make several simultaneous nominations, in effect daring Republicans to find specific objections in multiple instances. Democrats say Republicans would be hard pressed to come up with legitimate reasons to disqualify all four.

“We need to design a strategy to counter the Republicans, and we are going to need the president,” said Senator Tom Udall, Democrat of New Mexico. “Rather than putting just one up, we should put before the Senate all four and expose what is happening here.”

If Republicans were to continue to steadfastly block a series of appeals court nominees, Democrats say they might then have justification to revisit Senate rules and claim new power to thwart filibusters.

SwissTony

(2,560 posts)
3. What a ridiculous construct
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 04:05 PM
Mar 2013

One person can stop a popular bill being passed just by talking for hours.

Didn't we used to laugh at guys like Castro for giving a five hour speech? Bloody amateur.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
4. k/r
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 04:28 PM
Mar 2013
The phrase "engaged in combat" has come to mean little more than: anyone the President accuses, in secrecy and with no due process, of supporting a Terrorist group
yep

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