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KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:01 AM Mar 2013

Debt, illness and a treadmill of cheap products: Life under our Corporate owned Government

We have food that either leaves you hungry (by not providing certain nutrients) or makes you hungrier for sugar and sweets (artificial sweeteners do this). We have healthcare designed to endlessly treat symptoms without ever addressing the root causes and we have an economy built on credit, designed to keep prices high and us all in as much debt as possible.

It didn't have to be this way I suppose but things are this way by design. Pure science -- behavioral science, food science, health science all harnessed to strip us of satisfaction so that we can be sold more things. What got us here was decades of data collected by corporations in the pursuit of higher profits. Essentially everything we buy is tracked and aggregated to answer the questions that corporate boards want answered: how do we sell more to these people and make more money ? Capitalism is an ongoing experiment and they tweak it as we go along based on what we did or didn't buy.

Every once in a while you get a disposable razor that lasts much longer than the others. They could make them all like that but they have a short life span by design. The first iPods had no way to change out the battery when it finally failed. We have steel scissors with plastic handles. Virtually everything we buy is designed to have a limited lifespan and it took decades and 2 generations to get us to accept this.

In the 1930s, there was a spatula in almost every kitchen, almost no one had credit and we bought things designed to last. This was a disaster for large manufacturers and retail chains but by the time we emerged from WWII they had an answer -- television. There had been advertising before television but TV by-passed the filters, seamlessly integrating ads with entertainment and creating an artificial picture of what life in America should be. The ultimate propaganda machine became a key part of how we perceived ourselves. We were told not to compare ourselves to prior generations or even our neighbors but rather to Ozzie and Harriet, Beaver Cleaver and to Elvis Presley so we would buy suburban houses, 4 door cars and jeans.

Now we are totally through the looking glass -- huge multinational corporations own all of the TV distribution networks. Ronald Reagan was the corporate spokesperson for GE, who owns NBC and is the biggest defense contractor in the world. They sold us on Reagan and he sold us a huge defense build up. It was all one package, decades in preparation. Now, the content of programs is advertising also and we are even sold disposable low-talent "American Idol"s while ignoring artists and musicians who have original points of view and the talent to carry them through a career. We are sold on their invasions and wars while simultaneously ignoring our protests and counter points. In spite of hundreds of channels, the content is in fact so narrow that Jon Stewart, icon of the mature Left, shows us what they said on Fox News the day before, essentially bringing RW frames and guests in front of a self-identified leftie audience.

They learned from Vietnam how to keep a war going. Basically the answer is 'don't show it on TV.' They learn from everything and they apply their knowledge to modify our collective behavior. March 20th will be the 10 year anniversary of the Iraq invasion. I am not expecting them to portray it as a disaster based on lies about WMD. There will be no examination of why we weren't 'greeted as liberators.' They learn and apply what they have learned.

Food that leaves us hungry, hospitals that leave us uncured and information (perhaps more accurately 'info-taiment') that leaves us uninformed -- the country is this way by design and it is going to get worse. It is much easier to see this when you turn your TV (at least the "news&quot off.

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Debt, illness and a treadmill of cheap products: Life under our Corporate owned Government (Original Post) KurtNYC Mar 2013 OP
You should send this one out. yellerpup Mar 2013 #1
So true... TheProgressive Mar 2013 #2
life begins again when you reject television completely datasuspect Mar 2013 #3
It works, I haven't watched TV news for over 14 years. santamargarita Mar 2013 #4
Or "How To Raise Country of Fat, Ignorant, Bottom Feeding Citizens". vkkv Mar 2013 #5
K&R Television is the linchpin. It is the source of our delusions and learned helplessness. Egalitarian Thug Mar 2013 #6
Yes, esp. the TV part. stuntcat Mar 2013 #7
Very well said PatSeg Mar 2013 #8
yup, we're doomed librechik Mar 2013 #9
LMSP kicking...n/t littlemissmartypants Mar 2013 #10
- L0oniX Mar 2013 #11
What a depressing but sadly accurate post CanonRay Mar 2013 #12
An unhappy 'rec' for the truth Lifelong Protester Mar 2013 #13
Recommend... BTW there was a time when the "Consumer Movement" KoKo Mar 2013 #14
Bravo! 99Forever Mar 2013 #15
K&R! This is the 500 lb gorilla in every newsroom in the U.S. Dustlawyer Mar 2013 #16
So have we learned yet? Puzzledtraveller Mar 2013 #17
and so it is. n/t BeHereNow Mar 2013 #18
When will TV finally be all commercials all the time? moondust Mar 2013 #19
Don't watch television. Don't buy crap. It's easy. hunter Mar 2013 #20
omg Kurt Skittles Mar 2013 #21
Not sure. I don't own a TV so I watch some stuff via HULU and YouTube but KurtNYC Mar 2013 #23
havent owned a TV in 15 years KG Mar 2013 #22
 

datasuspect

(26,591 posts)
3. life begins again when you reject television completely
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:24 AM
Mar 2013

it's insidious and people will defend to the death the propriety of their television addiction.

santamargarita

(3,170 posts)
4. It works, I haven't watched TV news for over 14 years.
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:53 AM
Mar 2013

My news comes from carefully selected sites on the Web. And I'm not talking about the Republican owned/partnered Huffington Post.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
5. Or "How To Raise Country of Fat, Ignorant, Bottom Feeding Citizens".
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:03 PM
Mar 2013

Or "How To Raise Country of Fat, Ignorant, Bottom Feeding Citizens".

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
6. K&R Television is the linchpin. It is the source of our delusions and learned helplessness.
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:11 PM
Mar 2013

We know practically nothing and are uninterested in anything that doesn't come out of it, and we believe everything, no matter how idiotic, that does.

stuntcat

(12,022 posts)
7. Yes, esp. the TV part.
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:33 PM
Mar 2013

The happiest people I know are the ones who watch the most television. They seem to have no idea how their life effects the physical world.. if TV says everything's okay then that's all they need.

I used to watch an hour of news a day and I've stopped doing that. No one on TV news is breaking through to people with the truth. Economy and war are not the only issues people should learn about between their dramas and comedies.

In 2050, when the shit starts hitting the fan, someone looking back at what people spend hours watching these days will just shake their head.

PatSeg

(47,573 posts)
8. Very well said
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:40 PM
Mar 2013

I often feel like I woke up in one of those futuristic science fiction movies where the government is corporate run and the people are brain-washed super consumers.

librechik

(30,676 posts)
9. yup, we're doomed
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 01:00 PM
Mar 2013

and they are just going to get better and better at it.

While everyone was fearing a "1984" future (and the Right Wing was claiming the Left was trying to impose it) "Brave New World" slipped a noose over our collective necks and started force feeding us so they could collect our livers.

We will all die filled with unsatisfied desire and unsatisfied ambitions. Cuz in this country you can't advance--ALMOST everybody is chained to the bottom, one way or the other.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
14. Recommend... BTW there was a time when the "Consumer Movement"
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 01:23 PM
Mar 2013

in the late 70's early 80's managed to get the manufacturers to improve quality. That was in response to some of the outcries in the late 60's over cars that fell apart and unsafe kitchen appliances, toys and other items. I still have kitchen appliances from 30 years ago and stuff from my mother's kitchen that just won't die.

With NAFTA the companies could produce goods cheaply overseas and now the Coffee Makers, Toaster Ovens, Hand Mixers and other small appliances are built to last maybe a year or two if one is lucky.
Our automobiles are far better and longer lasting...but, everything else has deteriorated in quality since we offshored.

Reagan's influence on killing the consumer movement, the easy Credit Policies that hooked most of us on debt and then the institution of NAFTA killed the quality.

Dustlawyer

(10,497 posts)
16. K&R! This is the 500 lb gorilla in every newsroom in the U.S.
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 01:56 PM
Mar 2013

There was a MSNBC guy, Dillion Ratigan, that went there to his panel and said that Obama should use the bully pulpit and explain to America that we have a bought Congress and everything that happens, happens because of special interests. He did not stay after that! My guess is they bought him off. That's what they do, just ask BP. BP is by far the largest advertiser on the Gulf coast since the spill. No newspaper or TV station would dare to run a victim impact story or anything negative to BP for fear of losing the ad money. The rest of the world thinks this disaster is over and a 20 billion fund took care of everything. Funny thing was, there was never 20 billion set aside in a fund. Ken Feinberg, the "appointed" head of the Gulf Coast Claims Facility by Obama, was everywhere after the spill telling everyone that he was "Independant" and therefore you could trust him and the award he would give you. The Judge later found him to having at all times relevant, been BP's representative instead. He had told everyone on TV they did not need an attorney, they would just take most of the settlement for themselves. Then he screwed them. These corporations absolutely run this country, which is why we need complete Campaign Finance Reform to get our representative government back! Maybe when my grandson is an adult there will be the battle for control of our "Democracy." I don't expect to live to see it myself. Thanks for the reality check!

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
17. So have we learned yet?
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 02:51 PM
Mar 2013

That it doesn't matter who's in office?

The haves will always have, and the have-nots' will always have not.

moondust

(20,002 posts)
19. When will TV finally be all commercials all the time?
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 04:12 PM
Mar 2013

It's on a steady march there but how much longer do we have to wait?



K/R

hunter

(38,325 posts)
20. Don't watch television. Don't buy crap. It's easy.
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 04:53 PM
Mar 2013

I don't watch television, I enjoy movies. The TV is for DVDs and videotapes, that's all. Videos are a dollar or two at the thrift stores, or I rent them from the Redbox.

I'm very happy not knowing what I'm missing. I have no idea what the corporate-powers-that-be want me to buy.



Skittles

(153,185 posts)
21. omg Kurt
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 12:50 AM
Mar 2013

I've always wondered why I seem to see things so much more sooner and more clearly than other folk - is it because I have never watched much TV? I consider 90% of it pure garbage; yes INDEED.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
23. Not sure. I don't own a TV so I watch some stuff via HULU and YouTube but
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 09:37 AM
Mar 2013

when I do see regular TV news it seems to be a steady stream of fear -- fear of crime, fear of rainstorms, fear of random (because they don't investigate) crimes. And all that stuff around the edges of the screen -- tickers, ads and logos -- it is over-stimulation. I find it really stress inducing.

When I shut off my cable about 10 years ago (because it went to $70/month) I experienced an unexpected lift in mood. Within 10 days I was calm and accepting, very much at peace. I didn't connect the 2 right away perhaps because I had given up TV to save money, NOT to get happy. One of my relatives is a psychotherapist and she asked if I was terminally ill (!) because many terminally ill people break through to a place of acceptance and bliss like I had. I will never go back.

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