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Brainstormy

(2,381 posts)
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 01:37 PM Mar 2013

Parents surprised by offspring coming out?

Almost posted this morning a remark about Rob Portman changing his tune about gay marriage after his son announced, at 18, that he was gay. This just mystifies me. I know that our children are not always open books to us, but I can't fathom how you don't know your child's sexual orientation for 18 years. This dad, in another DU post, wasn't caught unaware. The post inspired me to comment. Wonder what others think.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022511486#post26

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Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
1. I don't think it's that odd
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 01:41 PM
Mar 2013

Some people don't date much until after HS. Some people are good at hiding their sexuality.

Arkansas Granny

(31,525 posts)
2. It's called denial. Something that may be very evident to other people is often ignored or
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 01:44 PM
Mar 2013

denied by parents if it's something that they don't want to admit.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
3. I can testify to that.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 02:32 PM
Mar 2013

When my brother came out to my Mom, she called me and said this:
"Your brother just told me something that I think you must have known for a long time".

talk about projection.

she was of the generation that believed it was something that SHE had caused to happen, and she suffered about that far longer than necessary, no matter how much we "kids" tried to tell her otherwise.

Arkansas Granny

(31,525 posts)
9. I have a friend who went through a terrible time when her daughter finally came out to her.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 03:57 PM
Mar 2013

She carried a burden of guilt for several years (much of it placed on her by her own mother) until she finally came to grips with it. Over time she has been able to accept her daughter and her partner and they have healed their relationship.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
4. Frankly, it's called being a shitty parent.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 02:55 PM
Mar 2013

And either: 1). Not knowing your own child well enough to know his/her sexual orientation. 2). Not accepting your child's orientation, or, 3). Being ashamed of it.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
6. My daughter didn't have a single "boyfriend" all through junior high or high school.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 02:59 PM
Mar 2013

Never showed any real interest in boys either. She went to both of her proms with her female best friends. My wife and I wondered, more than once, whether she might be lesbian. We even asked her once, and she denied it, saying that "dating is dumb, people just want sex, and I don't want to be distracted by that". Even after that discussion we wondered whether she might still be coming to terms with it herself, and thought that she just might not be ready to discuss it (which is admittedly a bit odd, as my wife and I are both pretty open about our bisexuality, and nudity around my household wasn't an uncommon thing, so there were no social barriers under my roof). We let it drop and assumed that she'd talk about it when (if) she was ready.

We now know, since she's gone off to college, that she has also started dating and is now seeing somebody regularly. A guy. She's straight. Has been all along. She was being honest when she said that high school boys just didn't do anything for her. She needed someone a bit more mature and intellectual, and didn't find one until she got to college.

We, her own parents, didn't know what her sexuality was until after she'd moved out of our house. It happens, And from what I've gathered talking to other parents, it's not even all that unusual.

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
7. It's easy with teen boys. You just check their browser history
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 03:00 PM
Mar 2013

to see what kind of porn they're watching.

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
12. Apparently not. My 15-year-old nephew got busted
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 04:10 PM
Mar 2013

by his grandmother when she found porn sites in her browser history. Well, actually, it was my wife who found them, when she was cleaning out all the malware those porn sites had introduced on her PC. His grandmother was not amused, to put it mildly.

BTW, he's heterosexual.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
14. LOL
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 04:12 PM
Mar 2013

Dang... Doesn't even know how to use Browser in Private Mode?
Woah... I thought that was something self evident by about 10 by now.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
8. I was a *bit* surprised
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 03:39 PM
Mar 2013

My daughter is now in her mid-teens. I found out with a conversation that went something like this: "What are you giggling about?" "I have a crush on someone." "Oh? what's his name." "..." "Or is it 'her' name?" "*giggle* it's a her" "Oh, I see. So, what's she like? How did you meet her? etc..."

I was a bit surprised only because of my own bias (well, that and she has liked a boy before). My daughter was always a girly-girl. Loved frou-frou dress up clothing, hair bows and make up. Played only with dolls and barbies, HATED cars (I had bought her cars and trains etc. she never touched them). She was in ballet. Pink was her favorite color. Hated sports. I, stupidly, assumed if she was gay she wouldn't be so 'girly'. I should know better - my now-ex husband used to call me 'butchy' and I'm not gay or bi at all. It makes me wonder about this dad in that post 'knowing' about his son being gay since the son was 6. How? Because he liked dolls and dresses? That's silly. Not every boy who likes pink or plays with dolls will be gay, and not every macho football player will be straight. Just like not every girly girl will be straight and every tomboy will be gay. Those are meaningless stereotypes. Anyhow...

What bothers me is people scared to 'turn' their child gay. A good friend of mine refused to clothe her son in red or light blue, because 'red was close to pink' and 'light blue was a girl's color'. WTF? Mostly he wore black, navy, brown, dark green and white. I thought that was a bit much. Let's just say I haven't told this friend about my daughter yet.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
13. I agree. Many gay people and straight people don't fit the stereotypes.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 04:11 PM
Mar 2013

And if the person doesn't fit the stereotypes, and is keeping a secret, then how would you know?

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
10. I think it's perfectly possible. Your children are only as open with you as they feel safe in being.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 04:05 PM
Mar 2013

When a youth is growing up in a home that is homophobic it's not surprising he would cover up that aspect of himself.

Lots of people live closeted gay lives without the people around them guessing. I grew up in a liberal family where we sometimes talked about gay people (I had gay and lesbian friends) and gay rights but none of us guessed that my father himself was gay. He had four babies with my mother before she finally found out; and the rest of us didn't learn till we were adults and they told us -- once they finally decided to get a divorce.

People who want to act straight can.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
15. Some kids are very private
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 04:54 PM
Mar 2013

my son is shy....
didn't know whether he was gay or straight.
wouldn't matter to me, I love him no matter what.

turns out he's straight but I didn't know until senior year of high school.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
16. Depends on the kids, and depends on the parents.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 05:06 PM
Mar 2013

Different people are different combinations of shy, open, accepting, afraid, private, ashamed, curious, proud, and confused -- about everything, not just sexuality. People exhibit love and concern in different ways. People change, people understand themselves better over time, or they hide their true feelings over time. My son is currently dating a young woman; while I doubt it, it's possible he's decided that pretending he's straight as he navigates through school in a very small town is the best thing to do. He could come out the day after graduation, or the day after tomorrow. Or he's straight. I would be surprised if he told me he were gay. But it's entirely possible; people do what they feel like they have to do.

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